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redbirdfan51
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Cardinals should start their own network. The network could cover the Blues, SLU basketball and perhaps some Mizzou sports.
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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Ozziesfan41
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Well mo hadn’t provided the fans with a good product to watch trying to win the last three years the only way to build a product that people want to watch is to rebuildcardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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Talkin' Baseball
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
No bueno.
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I think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Ozzie.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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cardinalsfever44
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Haha. Exactly.Absolut wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:41 pmOzzie.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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Talkin' Baseball
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
I can only speak for me, but I wasn't put off by the players as I was the utterly poor performance by the front office, the poor roster construction, the mixed messaging, and the condescension.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
I'm not put off by the players at all. I'm just saying that there have been no players on the team the past few years that are going to excite the casual fan. There are no "must see" players. Hopefully that turns around quickly.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:55 pmI can only speak for me, but I wasn't put off by the players as I was the utterly poor performance by the front office, the poor roster construction, the mixed messaging, and the condescension.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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Talkin' Baseball
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
I thought they were more interesting to watch this year than the past couple.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:56 pmI'm not put off by the players at all. I'm just saying that there have been no players on the team the past few years that are going to excite the casual fan. There are no "must see" players. Hopefully that turns around quickly.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:55 pmI can only speak for me, but I wasn't put off by the players as I was the utterly poor performance by the front office, the poor roster construction, the mixed messaging, and the condescension.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
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Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Why the Cardinals continued down this path again and again is puzzling. Then again the path of least resistance…
Still they are one of the few mid market organizations with enough brand power imo create their own network.
To help spread cost partner with Blues which solves their broadcast issues and provides year round live content to subs.
Now that both teams have been blah for multiple years, thus hurting attendance and ratings — it will take even more cajones for ownership to get on board.
Still they are one of the few mid market organizations with enough brand power imo create their own network.
To help spread cost partner with Blues which solves their broadcast issues and provides year round live content to subs.
Now that both teams have been blah for multiple years, thus hurting attendance and ratings — it will take even more cajones for ownership to get on board.
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You should start it if you think it's such a great idea...redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:43 pm Cardinals should start their own network. The network could cover the Blues, SLU basketball and perhaps some Mizzou sports.
Let us know how simple it is and reliable to make money
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Two words: Dustin May. We are so back.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.
Re: Fan duel misses cards payment
Please allow me to take the role of Captain Obvious. The Cardinals stood pat on what they termed a restart. Instead, they started rebuilding. To this point, it is obvious that the Cardinals are shopping their best talent. The trade of Willson further depletes the team of their top performers of 2025. The intent for this year is to play a bunch of unproven players or those who have thus far been huge disappointments. The Cardinals don't have much leverage in any deal!!!
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No one cause they are liable to be traded the next day.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 17:37 pmI think the #1 factor contributing to recent fan apathy is that there are really no marketable or exciting players currently on the team. Which player would you even buy a jersey for right now?cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 16:45 pm Oh boy...
Another hurdle in the path of the St Louis Cardinals hopes of returning to success.
The Cardinals have to realize that tanking is not the best time to renegotiate a long term TV deal, right?
Carrier: So what are your viewership numbers?
Cardinals: Well we decided to make it difficult to watch our games in many markets and we let the STL media run wild with a narrative that the Cardinals have been downright awful for 10 years (2016-2025) and we can never win again even though we have won 52.3% of our games which is 10th best in MLB since the end of our 5 year run as the best team in MLB from 2011-2015.
Carrier: Why do we want to give you large sums of money if no one will be watching?
Cardinals: Can we sign an IOU for you? We've had a bad run of luck and don't expect to have a good product to watch for at least a couple more years.