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If I Had To Backfill The Roster

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If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
In the big scheme of things I like platoons. They make sense, are usually affordable, and they can add flexible productivity to a roster. Personally I don’t see the Cards dealing both Burleson and Noot. In fact I think both will be on the OD roster. But if the scenario you laid out does happen and both are dealt, then I don’t know that they will sign many veteran free agents because that would signal a longer term rebuild. They would likely just give a long look at in house players.

1B - Blaze Jordan - Might as well see if he can hit MLB pitching. I know he had a rough turn at Memphis after the trade, but he’s been solid otherwise and he’s a true 1B.

3B - Gorman - They have to find out if in 2026 if he’s part of the future.

LF - Bryan Torres - He’s an old prospect, but one of those guys who seems to have figured things out late. Super high OBP guy with speed who could lead off.

The result isn’t a good lineup either way, with old free agents or playing our AAA guys. That’s why I think they’ll aim to keep at least one of Noot and Burly, if not both.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Ty France is garbage...so I stopped reading the trash
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Punt---I puked at the thought of any of them being at 3rd base
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.

If the Cardinals were to trade both Contreras and Burleson (which I don’t think they will do), my options would still be internal. In your scenario I would say the Cardinals would use Gorman at 3B and this would give the Cardinals the opportunity to try to see if Herrera would be a fit at 1B. It seems like the Cardinals are intent on giving Herrera every opportunity to see if his offseason work at improving his catching has any legs but opening up 1B for Herrera would be an option.

I could see a one year deal for a guy like Tauchman but these guys are not hard to find. Under your scenario I would think that we would use something like
C Crooks/Pages
1B Herrera
2B Wetherholt
SS Winn
3B Gorman
LF ??????/Nootbaar
CF Scott
RF Walker
I’m just not seeing the need for anything but a short term addition to our outfield. We need to see what the new acquisitions look like before adding anybody. I would hope if all of those players are moved, there might be a close to ready outfielder coming back.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 21 Dec 2025 11:46 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Ty France is garbage...so I stopped reading the trash
Scouty doesn't like my ideas- I didn't see that coming. Ouch.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Dec 2025 17:23 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 21 Dec 2025 11:46 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Ty France is garbage...so I stopped reading the trash
Scouty doesn't like my ideas- I didn't see that coming. Ouch.
Hang tough. You'll get over it. :lol:
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Dec 2025 17:23 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 21 Dec 2025 11:46 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Ty France is garbage...so I stopped reading the trash
Scouty doesn't like my ideas- I didn't see that coming. Ouch.
I see you can't refute the statement.

Guy is a below league average hitter. Garbage
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AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 21 Dec 2025 18:20 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Dec 2025 17:23 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 21 Dec 2025 11:46 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Ty France is garbage...so I stopped reading the trash
Scouty doesn't like my ideas- I didn't see that coming. Ouch.
Hang tough. You'll get over it. :lol:
It's better than shut up Bobo
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 21 Dec 2025 17:23 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 21 Dec 2025 11:46 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Dec 2025 20:19 pm If we were to trade multiple people at a position (you have to trade one first, right?) here is where I would look;

1B- If the Cardinals were to trade Contreras and Burleson I would try to sign Ty France. He won the AL GG at first base last season. While not a lot, he has also played 2B and 3B. He is a RH bat who at least one season hit 20 HR. He hit .257 in 138 games last season and put up a WAR of 1.0. Spotrac estimates his next contract to be 1.6M.

3B- Punt? Saggese, Fermin, Blaze Jordan competition?

LF- If the team were to trade Nootbaar and Burleson, or even Nootbaar and Contreras, I would shoot for a platoon here. First, sign Marco Luciano as the RH side of the platoon. He was just DFA'd by the Pirates. He played at AAA last season where he hit 23 HR and had an OPS of .749. Interestingly, his OPS against LHP was .986. For the RH side of the platoon I would sign 35 y/o Mike Tauchman. He played 93 games last season with the White Sox. He had an OPS of .756, which was 12% above league average, and put up a WAR of 1.9- which, incidentally is identical to the WAR put up by Alec Burleson in 139 games. He can play all 3 OF spots. Spotrac estimates a contract for him at 2.8M.

These are not stars. This is not a plan to win the WS next season. This would be an effort to fill a major league roster on a rebuilding team until more long-term solutions are ready.
Ty France is garbage...so I stopped reading the trash
Scouty doesn't like my ideas- I didn't see that coming. Ouch.
I don’t post very often at all, but I watch this board every day for news and talk about the Cards. There are posters that others bag on like Shady, but Scouty has to be the worst on this board. There can’t possibly be a way that an adult male human being uses his time to post the excrement he does and not be doing it as a joke of some kind. Or this Scouty account must be the secondary account of a regular poster that they are using as a joke.
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