MLB Live talking about Donnie to Mariners

[BrockFloodMaris]

Got to look to get one high level pitcher and one high level position player in a deal for Donovan. Donovan is a versatile, All Star caliber player. The Cardinals need to obtain at least one MLB ready and one on the verge. Fill the two main needs.

You may be the dumbest poster I have seen here and that is REALLY saying something.

Mo overvalued our talent for the last ten years. Some folks around here have caught the Mo bug. They are now doing it to.

It comes down to how many teams are interested in pursuing Donovan. I saw it may be as many as half the MLB teams.

That is not actually what it comes down to. What it comes down to is the talent return in a trade. My point is that other teams may not be willing to return what Mo and others around here expect.

[ScotchMIrish]

The team expressed willingness to trade him. Not a good sign.

Have they expressed willingness to trade him?

Would it matter either way, though? Is it a bad sign for Donovan that the Cardinals have been very open about trading him?

The reason for trading him is he was pitching hurt. Donovan is on the block because the Cardinals are too cheap to pay him. His numbers were good and he is healthy.

Nootbar? Yes. Arenado? Yes. Donovan? No.

That's just not true. They aren't too cheap to sign him. They just sent $20mil to Boston in the Sonny trade. They're just aware that extending an above average utility player that was never considered a top-prospect, while entering his mid thirties, in the midst of a team re-build, is a dumb idea when they can maximize his return. It's called the "long-game."

Donovan is 28 and is top 5 bat at 2B in MLB with a gold glove or were you talking about someone else?

I apologize...I had his age incorrect. But, that's what we should be building around? a 28 year old second baseman with no power, a career .772 OPS and pretty bad splits? I'm sorry, but if this resembles a franchise cornerstone, we're absolutely effed

Why does he have to be someone to build around? He is a piece. A very good piece who we could rely on for years to come. The proposals I've seen thus far are underwhelming.

Solid take.
Are we sure that he doesn't want to test FA in the years to come?

It's possible he just wants out of St Louis and it's possible he has him convinced he's worth more than is possible.

[Galatians221jb1]

It’s getting very complicated

https://x.com/bellon_casey/status/20006 ... 36518?s=46

[Melville]

It’s getting very complicated

https://x.com/bellon_casey/status/20006 ... 36518?s=46

Not really.
Listening.
Negotiating.
Finding the offer STL likes best.
Not complicated.
Standard stuff.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Why does he have to be someone to build around? He is a piece. A very good piece who we could rely on for years to come. The proposals I've seen thus far are underwhelming.

I agree with you that he is a piece, who could be a very valuable piece on a good team. I disagree that some of the proposals on here have been underwhelming. If anything, I think some of them shoot too high. But in many of them posted here we are getting a player with the potential to be a star. I don't know about you, but trading a piece for a star would be very whelming.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

It’s getting very complicated

https://x.com/bellon_casey/status/20006 ... 36518?s=46

No offense, but why would you listen to anything those two guys have to say?

[ScotchMIrish]

Why does he have to be someone to build around? He is a piece. A very good piece who we could rely on for years to come. The proposals I've seen thus far are underwhelming.

I agree with you that he is a piece, who could be a very valuable piece on a good team. I disagree that some of the proposals on here have been underwhelming. If anything, I think some of them shoot too high. But in many of them posted here we are getting a player with the potential to be a star. I don't know about you, but trading a piece for a star would be very whelming.

The key word is potential. Gorman and Walker were #1 prospects in the Cardinals organization at one time. Are they stars? I've seen Seattle and San Francisco are offering their #3 and #7 prospects. That's for our biggest trade piece. Donovan is a star. He was on the all star team in 2025.

I don't see any stars being offered. I see potential MLB level players. Potential. Eldridge could be a solid power hitter but he turned 21 in September and was terrible when the Giants brought him up. Probably needs a couple more years in the minors.