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Cardinals may have players no one wants.

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Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Your kidding.
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They have at least one contract that no one wants, but the players have a market.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:20 am They have at least one contract that no one wants, but the players have a market.
Maybe not for what the Cardinals expect in return.
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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:22 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:20 am They have at least one contract that no one wants, but the players have a market.
Maybe not for what the Cardinals expect in return.
We'll see.
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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:22 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:20 am They have at least one contract that no one wants, but the players have a market.
Maybe not for what the Cardinals expect in return.
In this day and age it’s not a mystery as to the level of return. That’s already known. Now it’s simple names and faces changing places.

I doubt at this point there is not much give and take.
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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
There is legitimate interest in Donovan but Bloom might have a case of Boras syndrome in expecting too much in return. Seems like a deal could’ve already been struck.

Contreras might be viewed as a head case. Burleson is overrated, at least on this forum. JoJo - what is a middle reliever really going to bring back in return anyway? Arenado? No need to explain.

So yeah, I think you’re probably spot on.
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OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
Derrick Goold, Katie Woo, and other writers from other cities may be wrong or making stuff up about interest in certain Cardinals players that we have been reading about all offseason.

Could be the case.
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Everyone else's mileage may vary, but from a perspective of disgust I've all but given up on off-season articles proclaiming this or that trade/FA course of action seems possible or even likely.

There is still some honest reporting, but for the most part far too much click bait is being generated, both by humans & AI bots.
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Imperial Capitalist wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:52 am Everyone else's mileage may vary, but from a perspective of disgust I've all but given up on off-season articles proclaiming this or that trade/FA course of action seems possible or even likely.

There is still some honest reporting, but for the most part far too much click bait is being generated, both by humans & AI bots.
Yes, it's awful. Stick to articles by the beat reporters, or Rosenthal, Passan, Nightengale, Morosi and people who are credible. (I couldn't bring myself to include Jon Heyman on the list) The clickbait stuff is for entertainment value only and not hardly worth the time it takes to read it. You and I could write more interesting articles. Maybe we should!
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:25 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
There is legitimate interest in Donovan but Bloom might have a case of Boras syndrome in expecting too much in return. Seems like a deal could’ve already been struck.

Contreras might be viewed as a head case. Burleson is overrated, at least on this forum. JoJo - what is a middle reliever really going to bring back in return anyway? Arenado? No need to explain.

So yeah, I think you’re probably spot on.
Of course trades could have been made but I for one don’t want him making trades just to hurry up and make trades to make fans happy. He can take his time if it means getting the type of players he wants to get
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Imperial Capitalist wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:52 am Everyone else's mileage may vary, but from a perspective of disgust I've all but given up on off-season articles proclaiming this or that trade/FA course of action seems possible or even likely.

There is still some honest reporting, but for the most part far too much click bait is being generated, both by humans & AI bots.
100%
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:58 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:25 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
There is legitimate interest in Donovan but Bloom might have a case of Boras syndrome in expecting too much in return. Seems like a deal could’ve already been struck.

Contreras might be viewed as a head case. Burleson is overrated, at least on this forum. JoJo - what is a middle reliever really going to bring back in return anyway? Arenado? No need to explain.

So yeah, I think you’re probably spot on.
Of course trades could have been made but I for one don’t want him making trades just to hurry up and make trades to make fans happy. He can take his time if it means getting the type of players he wants to get
I get not rushing it for the fans sake, but with all the supposed interest, there’s something to be said about getting it done before teams start filling the needs elsewhere because you’re dragging your feet, or they just think you’re not serious and they lose interest and the fever for a deal.

The winter meetings sounded like a good competitive environment with motivated buyers. Hard to imagine something fair wasn’t offered. And when I say “fair” I do mean slight overpay for the convenience of getting a proven win-now type player. I highly doubt anyone is going to ridiculously overpay for two seasons of Brendan Donovan.
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It's important to have quality players. Brendan Donovan is a quality player. I would hate to trade him away for marginal players. If no deal presents itself that seems to offer a potentially quality player in return, seems like it would be worth looking into doing an extension with Donovan. If that doesn't work out, he can always be traded before the trade deadline.
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 15 Dec 2025 12:07 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:58 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:25 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Dec 2025 11:18 am Cardinals may have players no one wants.

Could be the case.
There is legitimate interest in Donovan but Bloom might have a case of Boras syndrome in expecting too much in return. Seems like a deal could’ve already been struck.

Contreras might be viewed as a head case. Burleson is overrated, at least on this forum. JoJo - what is a middle reliever really going to bring back in return anyway? Arenado? No need to explain.

So yeah, I think you’re probably spot on.
Of course trades could have been made but I for one don’t want him making trades just to hurry up and make trades to make fans happy. He can take his time if it means getting the type of players he wants to get
I get not rushing it for the fans sake, but with all the supposed interest, there’s something to be said about getting it done before teams start filling the needs elsewhere because you’re dragging your feet, or they just think you’re not serious and they lose interest and the fever for a deal.

The winter meetings sounded like a good competitive environment with motivated buyers. Hard to imagine something fair wasn’t offered. And when I say “fair” I do mean slight overpay for the convenience of getting a proven win-now type player. I highly doubt anyone is going to ridiculously overpay for two seasons of Brendan Donovan.
You have to remember with Marte in play a lot of teams are talking to both teams bloom may be waiting on that to play out so the losers of that will pivot to Donovan and pay more. It’s not like there are tons of big trades being made the trades will happen I don’t want him rushing things just to make fans happy because they want things to happen I also don’t want him to jump on the first “fair” offer he gets when if he negotiated more he could have got a better deal
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Donny is an above avg player but teams aren’t going to give up top talent for him.

Red are you inferring that the great marketing campaign “That Donny and Noot are on Fire” may be all SMOKE?
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