Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
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Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
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Ike Hammett
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
You honestly think Kete Martel l was the answer to put us into the world series? I would bet big bucks Mr. Mo could have got him if that was the truth.He was great and this is garbage.Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
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Ike Hammett
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Ike Hammett wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:14 amYou honestly think Kete Martel l was the answer to put us into the world series? I would bet big bucks Mr. Mo could have got him if that was the truth.He was great and this is garbage.Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
Ike Hammett wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:14 amYou honestly think Ketel Marte was the answer to put us into the world series? I would bet big bucks Mr. Mo could have got him if that was the truth.He was great and this is garbage.Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
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Talkin' Baseball
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Yea we're rebuilding. People with no trade clauses don't go to teams that are rebuilding. You have a weird fascination with Mo so much so that you have to constantly troll to keep bringing him up.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:29 am Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.
Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Under whose leadership has this team been transported back to the lows of early 90’s and 70’s baseball??TopofthePerch wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:45 amYea we're rebuilding. People with no trade clauses don't go to teams that are rebuilding. You have a weird fascination with Mo so much so that you have to constantly troll to keep bringing him up.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:29 am Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.
Good players didn’t used to put the Stl Cardinals on No Trade lists. They WANTED to come here.
If you can’t find the correlation perhaps the dialogue on this forum is too complicated for you……
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Why are the Yankees on his no trade list? They are the premier team in MLB.
Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
There are numerous motivations and strategies employed by players and their agents when selecting team for their limited no trade list. One of them is choosing bad teams that you don't want to play for. Others involve choosing the teams you do want to play for and/or are likely to be traded to so that you have leverage in trade discussions (team trading you needs your approval, you can negotiate a option to be exercised or even an extension, etc. in exchange for accepting the trade), sometimes you don't choose certain teams because you know they won't trade for you (bottom dwellers).
It's not like the list was the Rockies, White Sox, Nationals, Pirates and Cardinals. The Giants and Yankees were on the list as well (along with the A's and Pirates). Pretty hard to discern a pattern with those selections, IMO.
It's not like the list was the Rockies, White Sox, Nationals, Pirates and Cardinals. The Giants and Yankees were on the list as well (along with the A's and Pirates). Pretty hard to discern a pattern with those selections, IMO.
Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
weird, uneducated post. this from someone who did not like Mo's last 10 years. Why would a veteran in his prime want to come to a clearly re-building organization? be better.Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
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Ike Hammett
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Um, I think it's your leadership! If you morons would or could put 3 or 4 million in the stands and root for these guys they would DEFINITELY want to be here! But all you do is bash and hate. Right?Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:57 amUnder whose leadership has this team been transported back to the lows of early 90’s and 70’s baseball??TopofthePerch wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:45 amYea we're rebuilding. People with no trade clauses don't go to teams that are rebuilding. You have a weird fascination with Mo so much so that you have to constantly troll to keep bringing him up.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:29 am Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.
Good players didn’t used to put the Stl Cardinals on No Trade lists. They WANTED to come here.
If you can’t find the correlation perhaps the dialogue on this forum is too complicated for you……
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Just the other day you railed against the current state of the team. Now you’re all “Mr. Mo” and how great he was? Do you not see a correlation between the current state and the guy who made all the decisions? He was successful during his early years, which happened to coincide with Mr. TLR’s tenure.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:14 amYou honestly think Kete Martel l was the answer to put us into the world series? I would bet big bucks Mr. Mo could have got him if that was the truth.He was great and this is garbage.Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
I will also be critical if Bloom doesn’t make any effort to field a competitive team and just takes the tank strategy, which rarely ever works anyway. He’s only been in charge for a few months though so too soon to tell. If he doesn’t get the same payroll support from ownership then it still won’t be a fair comparison. In that case, I think your argument would be with ownership instead of management.
As far as fan support goes…winning always fixes that. Except for the poor Rays. They just need to move.
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BINGOTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:29 am Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.
Hopefully that had a lot to do w/Mo (and likely Oli who was listed at the bottom of MLB Managers a players survey said they wanted to play for, yet another reason he must be gone after 2026).
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Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:57 amUnder whose leadership has this team been transported back to the lows of early 90’s and 70’s baseball??TopofthePerch wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:45 amYea we're rebuilding. People with no trade clauses don't go to teams that are rebuilding. You have a weird fascination with Mo so much so that you have to constantly troll to keep bringing him up.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:29 am Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.
Good players didn’t used to put the Stl Cardinals on No Trade lists. They WANTED to come here.
If you can’t find the correlation perhaps the dialogue on this forum is too complicated for you……
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I sincerely and respect your comment, at least you you are humble enough to talk some sense and be human.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:12 amJust the other day you railed against the current state of the team. Now you’re all “Mr. Mo” and how great he was? Do you not see a correlation between the current state and the guy who made all the decisions? He was successful during his early years, which happened to coincide with Mr. TLR’s tenure.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:14 amYou honestly think Kete Martel l was the answer to put us into the world series? I would bet big bucks Mr. Mo could have got him if that was the truth.He was great and this is garbage.Goldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
I will also be critical if Bloom doesn’t make any effort to field a competitive team and just takes the tank strategy, which rarely ever works anyway. He’s only been in charge for a few months though so too soon to tell. If he doesn’t get the same payroll support from ownership then it still won’t be a fair comparison. In that case, I think your argument would be with ownership instead of management.
As far as fan support goes…winning always fixes that. Except for the poor Rays. They just need to move.
So really, what do you all think is possible and want?
Re: Thanks again MO…..no really Thanks for everything
Marte must HATE nice familiesGoldfan wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:07 am Rosenthal: Ketel Marte has five teams on his no-trade list:
Athletics
Yankees
Pirates
Giants
Cardinals
At any point in history before MO decided to drive this org into the Mississippi …….would a Ketel Marte put the Cards on his No-Trade list
My sympathies are with you Mr. Bloom
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Talkin' Baseball
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What?TopofthePerch wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:45 amYea we're rebuilding. People with no trade clauses don't go to teams that are rebuilding. You have a weird fascination with Mo so much so that you have to constantly troll to keep bringing him up.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 10:29 am Whether he would put us over the top or not isn't the point. When good players don't want to come here- that's a problem.