In my opinion it's defense first

[Cranny]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

[OldRed]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

You should try it. And also, admit when you are wrong.

[sikeston bulldog2]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

[WLTFE]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

You should try it. And also, admit when you are wrong.

It's really fun to watch when someone else is being trolled...and the victimization is always the 'go to' and the pity party...a fun day of constant posts and whining from Baghdad Bob!

[Imperial Capitalist]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

If his proclaimed history is to be believed, in his youth he flew fighter jets in the Vietnam War. Now, in his 80s he passes time being snippy with posters on an anonymous forum, always complaining about being picked on.

[WLTFE]

It's a anonymous forum..and easy to create an exaggerated past...and it often evolves as needed to prove a point.

[Cranny]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

Okay, SB, good idea. Let's get back on track. With the Cards adding Fitts and hopefully May to the rotation, and Kent and Pushard to the bullpen, what do you emphasize in a trade with either the Giants or the Mariners? Another starter or a position player (hopefully power corner outfielder)? Or both, if you need to add another player on top of Donovan to go to Seattle.

Also, with Red talking about defense, if Donovan is traded, what's your best up the middle (infield) defense? Winn and JJ? Or put JJ at third and play Saggese at second?

[sikeston bulldog2]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

Okay, SB, good idea. Let's get back on track. With the Cards adding Fitts and hopefully May to the rotation, and Kent and Pushard to the bullpen, what do you emphasize in a trade with either the Giants or the Mariners? Another starter or a position player (hopefully power corner outfielder)? Or both, if you need to add another player on top of Donovan to go to Seattle.

Also, with Red talking about defense, if Donovan is traded, what's your best up the middle (infield) defense? Winn and JJ? Or put JJ at third and play Saggese at second?

Superb write. One of your best.

Ok I don’t know if I can emphasize a return physically, but I do believe I can emphasize an intent. Your right. What it might be? I’m thinking pitching.

I’m stead fast- with Arenado it’s arenado Winn JJ and some body at first.

Without arenado it’s JJ Winn ?? At second somebody at first.

[Cranny]

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

Okay, SB, good idea. Let's get back on track. With the Cards adding Fitts and hopefully May to the rotation, and Kent and Pushard to the bullpen, what do you emphasize in a trade with either the Giants or the Mariners? Another starter or a position player (hopefully power corner outfielder)? Or both, if you need to add another player on top of Donovan to go to Seattle.

Also, with Red talking about defense, if Donovan is traded, what's your best up the middle (infield) defense? Winn and JJ? Or put JJ at third and play Saggese at second?

Superb write. One of your best.

Ok I don’t know if I can emphasize a return physically, but I do believe I can emphasize an intent. Your right. What it might be? I’m thinking pitching.

I’m stead fast- with Arenado it’s arenado Winn JJ and some body at first.

Without arenado it’s JJ Winn ?? At second somebody at first.

If Arenado isn't traded, the picture is pretty clear with JJ at 2B. But if Arenado is traded (which Bloom is pretty sure he will be), then decisions have to be made. What gives you the best defense up the middle, as Red is asking for? JJ at 2B? JJ at 3B and Saggese or Fermin at 2B? If that's the case, who's the better defender at 2B between Saggese and Fermin?

[zuck698]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Please go back and read your post history. Not only did I try to move on from the subject when I realized you were never going to admit you were wrong, but I also sent a post that said you win! For most people, this would end the conversation and a person would move on with their lives. But not you! I have lurked here for years, and have noticed your history of doing the same things with other posters, and because of that, I was hesitant to respond to your post yesterday, but unfortunately I did not listen to my inner voice, and I commented on your post for the first time in many years of restraining myself from doing so. I really never thought it would turn out like the end of the world for you! I mean everyone is wrong once in a while, and most people don't have a problem admitting when they are. You are indeed an exception to that rule! Please just move on and know that this forum shouldn't be this important to you.

[WLTFE]

You're poking the rabbit...and you'll be chastised by two posters who always support one another ...and soon...you'll be reported to the mods.

[Cranny]

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Level 2 Simp / Smf alert.

You're on ignore stupid

Wow! Didn't even know I was involved in a conversation with you? Take care, I guess.

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Please go back and read your post history. Not only did I try to move on from the subject when I realized you were never going to admit you were wrong, but I also sent a post that said you win! For most people, this would end the conversation and a person would move on with their lives. But not you! I have lurked here for years, and have noticed your history of doing the same things with other posters, and because of that, I was hesitant to respond to your post yesterday, but unfortunately I did not listen to my inner voice, and I commented on your post for the first time in many years of restraining myself from doing so. I really never thought it would turn out like the end of the world for you! I mean everyone is wrong once in a while, and most people don't have a problem admitting when they are. You are indeed an exception to that rule! Please just move on and know that this forum shouldn't be this important to you.

Zuck - What's your very best keystone combination for up the middle defense, if Arendo is traded?

[sikeston bulldog2]

You are right to move on. They are trolling and not here to talk baseball...and they have to have the last word...lonely old men needing attention...

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

Okay, SB, good idea. Let's get back on track. With the Cards adding Fitts and hopefully May to the rotation, and Kent and Pushard to the bullpen, what do you emphasize in a trade with either the Giants or the Mariners? Another starter or a position player (hopefully power corner outfielder)? Or both, if you need to add another player on top of Donovan to go to Seattle.

Also, with Red talking about defense, if Donovan is traded, what's your best up the middle (infield) defense? Winn and JJ? Or put JJ at third and play Saggese at second?

Superb write. One of your best.

Ok I don’t know if I can emphasize a return physically, but I do believe I can emphasize an intent. Your right. What it might be? I’m thinking pitching.

I’m stead fast- with Arenado it’s arenado Winn JJ and some body at first.

Without arenado it’s JJ Winn ?? At second somebody at first.

If Arenado isn't traded, the picture is pretty clear with JJ at 2B. But if Arenado is traded (which Bloom is pretty sure he will be), then decisions have to be made. What gives you the best defense up the middle, as Red is asking for? JJ at 2B? JJ at 3B and Saggese or Fermin at 2B? If that's the case, who's the better defender at 2B between Saggese and Fermin?

JJ at second reminds me of Herr and Ozzie. If we have no Nado then second becomes arbitrary and I’d try JJ at third.

As for the other two at second. They would degrade the up the middle from the afore mentioned set up, but how much? If minimal either can play it.

[Cranny]

Told you...they are relentless...

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

Okay, SB, good idea. Let's get back on track. With the Cards adding Fitts and hopefully May to the rotation, and Kent and Pushard to the bullpen, what do you emphasize in a trade with either the Giants or the Mariners? Another starter or a position player (hopefully power corner outfielder)? Or both, if you need to add another player on top of Donovan to go to Seattle.

Also, with Red talking about defense, if Donovan is traded, what's your best up the middle (infield) defense? Winn and JJ? Or put JJ at third and play Saggese at second?

Superb write. One of your best.

Ok I don’t know if I can emphasize a return physically, but I do believe I can emphasize an intent. Your right. What it might be? I’m thinking pitching.

I’m stead fast- with Arenado it’s arenado Winn JJ and some body at first.

Without arenado it’s JJ Winn ?? At second somebody at first.

If Arenado isn't traded, the picture is pretty clear with JJ at 2B. But if Arenado is traded (which Bloom is pretty sure he will be), then decisions have to be made. What gives you the best defense up the middle, as Red is asking for? JJ at 2B? JJ at 3B and Saggese or Fermin at 2B? If that's the case, who's the better defender at 2B between Saggese and Fermin?

JJ at second reminds me of Herr and Ozzie. If we have no Nado then second becomes arbitrary and I’d try JJ at third.

As for the other two at second. They would degrade the up the middle from the afore mentioned set up, but how much? If minimal either can play it.

How about going with JJ at 2B and Saggese at 3B?

[Goldfan]

I think the answer if very clear. ANYTIME a team has an elite bat it hits at the top of the order and is inserted in the defense. There’s really no case where it’s the other way around. Perhaps Ozzie….but he became a top of lineup hitter. The BlueJays were playing a disabled SS at 2b who couldn’t even run to have his bat in the WS. They could’ve put a glove at 2nd but chose not to……and 2b is one of the MAIN defensive positions on the field
Case closed

[sikeston bulldog2]

You are 100% correct! Is this Riff Raff guy Cranny's protector or something? To get attacked out of no where by someone, who wasn't even in the discussion, was enlightening to say the least! His handle fits him perfectly. And Cranny continues to defend his losing argument here, I see. I have never encountered someone who triples down, or is it quadruple down, on being so wrong! I had no idea that having a conversation about baseball here was considered so taboo? I guess they have the foe option here for a reason. LOL

Okay, Zuke. Let me ask you a straight forward question. Why is JJ the most anticipated Cardinal prospect in years?

And also, why are you picking on me for what other posters have said on here for years?

No one is picking on you, you are doing that all by yourself Granny. I will just say "you win" Granny if that makes you feel any better? Congratulations, you just won the internet.

"Granny"? LOL. You're classless, Zuke.

Classless says the guy who hasn't called my name right once since you were proven so wrong! Isn't it past bed time for you? Did you miss your nap today? My goodness! You made a statement that was proven false, you won't admit you're wrong, and you just continue to pout like a baby! It is a baseball forum, not life or death "Granny"!

Making a mountain out of a mole hole and calling people names is totally classless, zuck. And now you talk about bed time and taking a nap? Adding more insults? Seriously, don't you have better things to do than to snark up an anonymous baseball forum? Why don't you get off your petty little kick and talk some baseball. Like when the next trade may occur. Whom we might get for Donovan. Comment on the possible Giants or Mariners trade. Top prospects that may come back, as suggested by other posters. Stuff like that.

Not an overall bad write. Your bottom six lines are valid. Using - petty little kick, snark, diminishes that message.

Okay, SB, good idea. Let's get back on track. With the Cards adding Fitts and hopefully May to the rotation, and Kent and Pushard to the bullpen, what do you emphasize in a trade with either the Giants or the Mariners? Another starter or a position player (hopefully power corner outfielder)? Or both, if you need to add another player on top of Donovan to go to Seattle.

Also, with Red talking about defense, if Donovan is traded, what's your best up the middle (infield) defense? Winn and JJ? Or put JJ at third and play Saggese at second?

Superb write. One of your best.

Ok I don’t know if I can emphasize a return physically, but I do believe I can emphasize an intent. Your right. What it might be? I’m thinking pitching.

I’m stead fast- with Arenado it’s arenado Winn JJ and some body at first.

Without arenado it’s JJ Winn ?? At second somebody at first.

If Arenado isn't traded, the picture is pretty clear with JJ at 2B. But if Arenado is traded (which Bloom is pretty sure he will be), then decisions have to be made. What gives you the best defense up the middle, as Red is asking for? JJ at 2B? JJ at 3B and Saggese or Fermin at 2B? If that's the case, who's the better defender at 2B between Saggese and Fermin?

JJ at second reminds me of Herr and Ozzie. If we have no Nado then second becomes arbitrary and I’d try JJ at third.

As for the other two at second. They would degrade the up the middle from the afore mentioned set up, but how much? If minimal either can play it.

How about going with JJ at 2B and Saggese at 3B?

I’m sure that will suffice. And should seal the middle. But Saggese at the corner is a power hole which we are defiency in.