Gray, May and Fitts
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Gray, May and Fitts
It will be interesting to see how their pitching results compare next season. To me, Gray sure didn't seem like an ace last season. Gray was fairly durable. But often didn't go deep into his starts.
Re: Gray, May and Fitts
Why will it be "interesting", and why are we comparing those two to Gray other than one was traded for him? Even then, we would should never compare Fitts' 2026 to Gray's 2026. There's no point in a rebuild season. 
Re: Gray, May and Fitts
When I saw the title of this thread .. Gray, May, and Fitts I thought this was a new law firm Bloom had hired to negotiate contracts for the club.
I was quite impresed by the name .
I was quite impresed by the name .
Re: Gray, May and Fitts
Gray is on the downside of his career. Both May and Fitts are much younger and have some talent. And both have been hampered by injuries. Maybe you don't see their upside. Kind of like you not seeing what Burleson's potential was.
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I didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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Despite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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It will be interesting.
I wish Gray well. Hope he has a great season.
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"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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It's interesting as to how much Gray will be missed with the additions of May and Fitts.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:39 pm"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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we're not competing....so he won't be missed...no matter who does better.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:46 pmIt's interesting as to how much Gray will be missed with the additions of May and Fitts.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:39 pm"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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Please no!craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:53 pmwe're not competing....so he won't be missed...no matter who does better.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:46 pmIt's interesting as to how much Gray will be missed with the additions of May and Fitts.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:39 pm"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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"we're not competing". Sorry, but how can you be so sure about that? You've proven to me, your calls aren't always correct.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:53 pmwe're not competing....so he won't be missed...no matter who does better.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:46 pmIt's interesting as to how much Gray will be missed with the additions of May and Fitts.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:39 pm"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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Bloom said "we're not competing".Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:58 pm"we're not competing". Sorry, but how can you be so sure about that? You've proven to me, your calls aren't always correct.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:53 pmwe're not competing....so he won't be missed...no matter who does better.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:46 pmIt's interesting as to how much Gray will be missed with the additions of May and Fitts.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:39 pm"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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If he did. That is a stupid thing to say for team morale going into '26. I'm not too sure many season ticket holders are impressed eithercraviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 15:02 pmBloom said "we're not competing".Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:58 pm"we're not competing". Sorry, but how can you be so sure about that? You've proven to me, your calls aren't always correct.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:53 pmwe're not competing....so he won't be missed...no matter who does better.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:46 pmIt's interesting as to how much Gray will be missed with the additions of May and Fitts.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:39 pm"Why is it interesting?" I'm asking for the 3rd time. You hurled the insults the first...and usually the most.Shady wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:37 pmDespite your lobbying and usual insult, I am still looking forward to seeing how the three mentioned compare in '26. If you don't, so be it.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 14:22 pmI didn't say they didn't have talent. I just questioned your comparison of a steady 3.5-4.0 WAR player, whom you declared was in a decline, to an at best 1.3 WAR 2 years ago and an at best 0.3 WAR 2 years ago.
Just because someone is "younger" doesn't mean they're better. And just because someone has "talent", doesn't mean they're better. Seeing their upside or not seeing their upside still doesn't explain the comparison and why on earth is it "interesting". There's no sense to it....other than giving you a chance to parrot "Burley". Good job!
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Re: Gray, May and Fitts
With a little dustin off his previous skill set one of those pitchers May work out very well in 2026, and if the other Shoe Fitts into a solid 3 or 4 spot, it will be a good combination of decisions on Bloom's part with no gray area.