40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
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40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
from a Scott Plaza article on Viva El Birdos:
Beyond figuring out who is left out of the five-man rotation, Chaim Bloom has to make a decision on JoJo Romero’s future before Spring Training. The current speculation is that a move involving Brendan Donovan is gaining traction, but a Romero trade could also clear up the 40-man spot needed to add May. Right now, I guess Romero would slot in as the team’s closer, so dealing him would allow Matt Svanson to slot into the ninth inning role. However, Derrick Goold reported that both Svanson and Gordon Graceffo are on a multi-inning reliever offseason plan with the potential of filling the fireman role left by Leahy’s move to the rotation.
I expect a Romero trade to happen relatively soon with a Donovan trade to follow, and each of those deals could provide some clarity on the big league pitching staff. I still believe the Cardinals will target major league or upper minors arms in trade returns. A move involving JoJo would leave the Cardinals without a lefty in the bullpen and Liberatore and Brycen Mautz as the only southpaws on the 40-man roster. This could cause St. Louis to also prefer a lefty arm or two in trade talks.
Beyond figuring out who is left out of the five-man rotation, Chaim Bloom has to make a decision on JoJo Romero’s future before Spring Training. The current speculation is that a move involving Brendan Donovan is gaining traction, but a Romero trade could also clear up the 40-man spot needed to add May. Right now, I guess Romero would slot in as the team’s closer, so dealing him would allow Matt Svanson to slot into the ninth inning role. However, Derrick Goold reported that both Svanson and Gordon Graceffo are on a multi-inning reliever offseason plan with the potential of filling the fireman role left by Leahy’s move to the rotation.
I expect a Romero trade to happen relatively soon with a Donovan trade to follow, and each of those deals could provide some clarity on the big league pitching staff. I still believe the Cardinals will target major league or upper minors arms in trade returns. A move involving JoJo would leave the Cardinals without a lefty in the bullpen and Liberatore and Brycen Mautz as the only southpaws on the 40-man roster. This could cause St. Louis to also prefer a lefty arm or two in trade talks.
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
true.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:43 am The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
I vote for Roycroft.
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+1Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:43 am The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
Don’t want to get into specific names but like you said there are 3/4/5 players who could be easily removed to clear space without having to deal.
Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
Romero the lone LHP out of the BP. Unless you count Raquet....which I'm not sure if we are or not?
Is this how Hansen gets on the 40 man and to the Majors before everyone else?
Didn't see this one coming.
They'll probably sign some LHP relievers before spring training...but it's a possible scenario with Hansen or another one of our many LHP pitchers in the Minors. Thompson wasn't claimed? If he's healthy, maybe he has a shot at the BP?
Is this how Hansen gets on the 40 man and to the Majors before everyone else?
They'll probably sign some LHP relievers before spring training...but it's a possible scenario with Hansen or another one of our many LHP pitchers in the Minors. Thompson wasn't claimed? If he's healthy, maybe he has a shot at the BP?
Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
If they trade for prospects, no need to trade either first or second.
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for me, a trade of JoJo, leaving no lefty in the pen, just adds to the intrigue of this offseason.
thank goodness MO is gone
who knows what that dufus would do (besides nothing)?
thank goodness MO is gone
who knows what that dufus would do (besides nothing)?
Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
Yes. Should have already been done.82birds wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:44 amtrue.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:43 am The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
I vote for Roycroft.
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
I can fully see Zack Thompson playing a prominent role out of the pen if he has a good spring training. I also think they are bringing Packy Naughton to ST. Not sure what that will mean. I don't see Pete Hansen having the stuff to come out of the bullpen. Admittedly, I'm only guessing about that.craviduce wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:49 am Romero the lone LHP out of the BP. Unless you count Raquet....which I'm not sure if we are or not?
Is this how Hansen gets on the 40 man and to the Majors before everyone else?Didn't see this one coming.
They'll probably sign some LHP relievers before spring training...but it's a possible scenario with Hansen or another one of our many LHP pitchers in the Minors. Thompson wasn't claimed? If he's healthy, maybe he has a shot at the BP?
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
Bloom has announced he will trade Donovan, Contreras and Arenado. He has floated the idea of trading Nootbar. If he trades for prospects that takes care of the 40 man issue.
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
I look forward to the time when there is enough talent on the 40 man roster that it actually hurts to let someone go.
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
Latest...........Yankees hot on the JoJo trail.
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Better idea.82birds wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:44 amtrue.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:43 am The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
I vote for Roycroft.
Donovan and Romero packaged for the greatest possible return.
Go big.
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Wonder what a return for a Donovan/Romero package could look like from the Yankees.
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
YesMelville wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 12:37 pmBetter idea.82birds wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:44 amtrue.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:43 am The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
I vote for Roycroft.
Donovan and Romero packaged for the greatest possible return.
Go big.
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Re: 40-man full. JoJo trade first, then Donovan?
Take them a little past their puke point on Donovan and then work out a deal to include Romero.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 12:39 pmYesMelville wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 12:37 pmBetter idea.82birds wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:44 amtrue.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 10:43 am The 40 man being full is a non-issue. They have 4-5 who could be dropped at any time.
I vote for Roycroft.
Donovan and Romero packaged for the greatest possible return.
Go big.