Army's Departure and its impact on team
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Army's Departure and its impact on team
Army desperately hired Monty because he was very concerned with leaving the team BETTER than when he started.
Sadly, that hasty move now foretells the team moves for the rest of this year. The team is now even worse than when Monty started, and even worse than it has been in many years.
There are 2 big questions now:
1) What desperation short-term moves is Army going to make to save his legacy in St Louis? For sure, Army is going to WIN WIN WIN to close out the season--DESTROYING DRAFT POSITION. The Blues will be instructed to hit every head thinking about a golf cart, and the team will win big -- GIVING THE APPEARANCE OF PROGRESS. And short-term moves will be made. Bring in some skilled vets that ensure the appearance of "progress".
2) Army's roster is a mess. The hole that he dug in St Louis is deep. And who is primed to take over? Current Answer: A rookie trained by the master that dug the hole. Is Steen the answer to fix this mess?
Sadly, that hasty move now foretells the team moves for the rest of this year. The team is now even worse than when Monty started, and even worse than it has been in many years.
There are 2 big questions now:
1) What desperation short-term moves is Army going to make to save his legacy in St Louis? For sure, Army is going to WIN WIN WIN to close out the season--DESTROYING DRAFT POSITION. The Blues will be instructed to hit every head thinking about a golf cart, and the team will win big -- GIVING THE APPEARANCE OF PROGRESS. And short-term moves will be made. Bring in some skilled vets that ensure the appearance of "progress".
2) Army's roster is a mess. The hole that he dug in St Louis is deep. And who is primed to take over? Current Answer: A rookie trained by the master that dug the hole. Is Steen the answer to fix this mess?
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I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
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OK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
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Good. Thats what I pay good money to see. It's the only way to build a winning team.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:19 amOK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
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I sure hope that you use the number 00 for your Armstrong jersey.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:21 amGood. Thats what I pay good money to see. It's the only way to build a winning team.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:19 amOK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
Can you point to another team that builds a winning team that way?
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Every cup winning team wins that way.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:22 amI sure hope that you use the number 00 for your Armstrong jersey.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:21 amGood. Thats what I pay good money to see. It's the only way to build a winning team.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:19 amOK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
Can you point to another team that builds a winning team that way?
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Mark me down for more of the same as well, please.
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Florida has 2 TOP5 picks on their roster that they selected.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:23 amEvery cup winning team wins that way.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:22 amI sure hope that you use the number 00 for your Armstrong jersey.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:21 amGood. Thats what I pay good money to see. It's the only way to build a winning team.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:19 amOK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
Can you point to another team that builds a winning team that way?
Florida had a lot of roster value to trade for Tckachuk. Do the Blues have anything of value on their roster to land their "Tckachuk"?
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Like I said, I want them to sneak in and get swept. I dont want a Tkatchuk.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:29 amFlorida has 2 TOP5 picks on their roster that they selected.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:23 amEvery cup winning team wins that way.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:22 amI sure hope that you use the number 00 for your Armstrong jersey.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:21 amGood. Thats what I pay good money to see. It's the only way to build a winning team.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:19 amOK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
Can you point to another team that builds a winning team that way?
Florida had a lot of roster value to trade for Tckachuk. Do the Blues have anything of value on their roster to land their "Tckachuk"?
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Florida was bad to awful for 20+ years before they turned it around. Is that the model you want to follow?a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:29 amFlorida has 2 TOP5 picks on their roster that they selected.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:23 amEvery cup winning team wins that way.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:22 amI sure hope that you use the number 00 for your Armstrong jersey.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:21 amGood. Thats what I pay good money to see. It's the only way to build a winning team.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:19 amOK. I'll put you down for wanting more of the same. With Armysteen, that is exactly what you are going to get.Jeff Goldblum wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 09:14 am I hope they sneak in the 8th seed and get swept in the first round and have a draft pick in the late teens.
Can you point to another team that builds a winning team that way?
Florida had a lot of roster value to trade for Tckachuk. Do the Blues have anything of value on their roster to land their "Tckachuk"?
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Can anyone spell Tkachuk?
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Pat, can I buy a vowel?
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I still want to know how a team explains to the players and fans they are going to tank for the rest of the year or for several years. How are the players expected to go forward from that game to game?
St. Louis is a small market and I think the lack of attendance and income would set them into a negative spiral. If the owners sign off on that I guess it is possible but I don't see it. If you have a single billionaire owner like Steve Cohen and the Mets you can do what you want and lose money for years. Blues don't have that.
Blackhawks could also do it- in that market they will sell out Hawks and Cubs no matter how the team is doing- much bigger market. Wrigley is a fun experience no matter who is winning.
St. Louis is a small market and I think the lack of attendance and income would set them into a negative spiral. If the owners sign off on that I guess it is possible but I don't see it. If you have a single billionaire owner like Steve Cohen and the Mets you can do what you want and lose money for years. Blues don't have that.
Blackhawks could also do it- in that market they will sell out Hawks and Cubs no matter how the team is doing- much bigger market. Wrigley is a fun experience no matter who is winning.
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Why do they have to tank for multiple years? They lack the one game breaker. You can get that with a top 5 pick. The franchise won’t collapse because they’re bad for a year.hotrivets wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 10:06 am I still want to know how a team explains to the players and fans they are going to tank for the rest of the year or for several years. How are the players expected to go forward from that game to game?
St. Louis is a small market and I think the lack of attendance and income would set them into a negative spiral. If the owners sign off on that I guess it is possible but I don't see it. If you have a single billionaire owner like Steve Cohen and the Mets you can do what you want and lose money for years. Blues don't have that.
Blackhawks could also do it- in that market they will sell out Hawks and Cubs no matter how the team is doing- much bigger market. Wrigley is a fun experience no matter who is winning.
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Fase premise. Army didn't dig a hole, he sought to keep a window of contention open for a veteran core.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 08:35 am Army desperately hired Monty because he was very concerned with leaving the team BETTER than when he started.
Sadly, that hasty move now foretells the team moves for the rest of this year. The team is now even worse than when Monty started, and even worse than it has been in many years.
There are 2 big questions now:
1) What desperation short-term moves is Army going to make to save his legacy in St Louis? For sure, Army is going to WIN WIN WIN to close out the season--DESTROYING DRAFT POSITION. The Blues will be instructed to hit every head thinking about a golf cart, and the team will win big -- GIVING THE APPEARANCE OF PROGRESS. And short-term moves will be made. Bring in some skilled vets that ensure the appearance of "progress".
2) Army's roster is a mess. The hole that he dug in St Louis is deep. And who is primed to take over? Current Answer: A rookie trained by the master that dug the hole. Is Steen the answer to fix this mess?
This is a team in transition. Most of the earlly transition draft picks are still VERY young, working their way up to
the NHL, Quite a few are still in Juniors or college.
Several years ago on this forum I and others posited a younger core wouldn't be ready to make a difference until the end of this decade. Last season and league parity raised hopes they might make some noise during the transition. It hasn't worked out this season. That's it. That's the story. Blues fans need to be patient. Along the way, avoid the snake oil sellers trying to convince you the sky is falling. It isn't, this is just a team in transition struggling through numerous injuries and performance issues.
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How much is all that snake oil you selling. Hope it's cheap. Cause you seem to have a warehouse full.DawgDad wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 11:00 amFase premise. Army didn't dig a hole, he sought to keep a window of contention open for a veteran core.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑10 Dec 2025 08:35 am Army desperately hired Monty because he was very concerned with leaving the team BETTER than when he started.
Sadly, that hasty move now foretells the team moves for the rest of this year. The team is now even worse than when Monty started, and even worse than it has been in many years.
There are 2 big questions now:
1) What desperation short-term moves is Army going to make to save his legacy in St Louis? For sure, Army is going to WIN WIN WIN to close out the season--DESTROYING DRAFT POSITION. The Blues will be instructed to hit every head thinking about a golf cart, and the team will win big -- GIVING THE APPEARANCE OF PROGRESS. And short-term moves will be made. Bring in some skilled vets that ensure the appearance of "progress".
2) Army's roster is a mess. The hole that he dug in St Louis is deep. And who is primed to take over? Current Answer: A rookie trained by the master that dug the hole. Is Steen the answer to fix this mess?
This is a team in transition. Most of the earlly transition draft picks are still VERY young, working their way up to
the NHL, Quite a few are still in Juniors or college.
Several years ago on this forum I and others posited a younger core wouldn't be ready to make a difference until the end of this decade. Last season and league parity raised hopes they might make some noise during the transition. It hasn't worked out this season. That's it. That's the story. Blues fans need to be patient. Along the way, avoid the snake oil sellers trying to convince you the sky is falling. It isn't, this is just a team in transition struggling through numerous injuries and performance issues.
Each year the teams overall health has gotten worse. Besides the facts. Each year fans of Army claim its getting better. Because we play the hardest on other teams day off for those 2-1 wins