Pavel Buchnevich

[stanw]

Vancouver is playing as bad as we are. They are also looking to change their roster. If Buchnevich would waive his no trade what do you think we could get back for him ?
Would have to make the money work, but I would like to get Conor Garland back, or Kiefer Sherwood, however we might have to take back a contract like Evander Kane back to make the money work.I am not a Kane fan but if you could move Buchnevich out it would be worth it. Kane is UFA after this year.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

Vancouver is playing as bad as we are. They are also looking to change their roster. If Buchnevich would waive his no trade what do you think we could get back for him ?
Would have to make the money work, but I would like to get Conor Garland back, or Kiefer Sherwood, however we might have to take back a contract like Evander Kane back to make the money work.I am not a Kane fan but if you could move Buchnevich out it would be worth it. Kane is UFA after this year.

No way any team is getting Sherwood from them without a heckuva an offer. Always among the league leaders in hits, developing a nice scoring touch, and they use him on the PK. He’s the bottom 6 type of player you win with, not trade. Not saying it won’t happen, but they will get a lot for someone that is viewed as bottom 6.

[Harry S Deals]

Vancouver is playing as bad as we are. They are also looking to change their roster. If Buchnevich would waive his no trade what do you think we could get back for him ?
Would have to make the money work, but I would like to get Conor Garland back, or Kiefer Sherwood, however we might have to take back a contract like Evander Kane back to make the money work.I am not a Kane fan but if you could move Buchnevich out it would be worth it. Kane is UFA after this year.

Sherwood is 30 and has started scoring a few goals the last two seasons. 19 last year was a career high he'll surpass that this year but it's buyer beware for me, I'd pass and let someone else overpay. I feel like I've seen this player before

[zamadoo]

It would be hard to work the numbers. They have few players with high enough cap hits, especially who aren't locked up on long-term deals with NTC. I don't want any of those players or contracts.

Sherwood and Garland wouldn't make me too upset, as it would shed some salary, and maybe we can swing Garland at the TDL or draft before his age 30-36 6x6 NTC contract kicks in.

These types of moves are hard in-season, but you never know.

If you said "you must trade Buch to Vancouver in a deal they would accept right now" I might offer:

Buch, Faulk, and our upcoming 1st (top-5 protected) for Hughes, Chytil, and Blueger

but then that is highly unlikely to result in anything, so I would offer:

Buch for Chytil and Blueger - just get two guys on IR, addition by subtraction for now

[John Cocktoastin]

I don't think anyone is taking calls on Buchnevich right now.

[Russdv14]

I think Buch has really come around this last week or so.., but the problem with him is that he can digress just as fast into his funky moods.
I’ll accept this latest side of Buchnevich, as I was impressed when he came down center ice in the O zone and took a shot from 10 feet out to the lower left on the goalie. It was one of those shots hard and close enough to go in or rebounded to another of our charging players (except our other players, seem oblivious to where the puck may go … just like Buch has been the rest of the season.

So I’m saying, I want to see our players protect the puck and shoot more. I think Kyrou had a short surge too . They get back to my preaching of consistent lines but Monty playing the players like a yo-yo up & down the line up

[hockey jedi]

I don't think anyone is taking calls on Buchnevich right now.

You beat me to it. If we released (expensive buyout) him, someone would take a flier on him. However, I can't believe he has any trade value now. I think he's done as far as being a productive player. I'm not upset with Army signing him. He had a great first year with the Blues, but his game has gone to (bleep).

[stanw]

I don't think anyone is taking calls on Buchnevich right now.

You beat me to it. If we released (expensive buyout) him, someone would take a flier on him. However, I can't believe he has any trade value now. I think he's done as far as being a productive player. I'm not upset with Army signing him. He had a great first year with the Blues, but his game has gone to (bleep).

With his past record of scoring there will always be a GM who will take a chance on a player like him.
I just threw Vancouver out their since their Gm already has said he is open for business. Calgary and Ottawa, Buffalo also suck right now, just don't know if he would waive his NT to go to those teams. Maybe back to the Rangers, if I remember he was mad when he was traded from New York to StL.

[John Cocktoastin]

I don't think anyone is taking calls on Buchnevich right now.

You beat me to it. If we released (expensive buyout) him, someone would take a flier on him. However, I can't believe he has any trade value now. I think he's done as far as being a productive player. I'm not upset with Army signing him. He had a great first year with the Blues, but his game has gone to (bleep).

With his past record of scoring there will always be a GM who will take a chance on a player like him.
I just threw Vancouver out their since their Gm already has said he is open for business. Calgary and Ottawa, Buffalo also suck right now, just don't know if he would waive his NT to go to those teams. Maybe back to the Rangers, if I remember he was mad when he was traded from New York to StL.

Have to disagree. With his salary and his performance, not sure why anybody would pick up.

Also - he was very happy to come here from NY...

"When things happened, the GM called me and said 'Congratulation, you'll be in St. Louis.' I'm just happy it's happened. I don't need to wait anymore, and I know where I'll be the next four years. I kind of know speculation about that too like I read some articles... but it's trade happen I'm happy to be in St. Louis".

[callitwhatyouwant]

Buchy has more worth to STL than he does as trade. It's just that simple. If the contract ages horribly it ages horribly. No one is taking it on right now. He would have to go on an epic tear to get people interested. Thomas and Kyrou? Well you can still sell the maybe I can fix this scenario to another team.

The only guys of value for trade that can be thought about trading for the Blues are Binner (to a team with 0 goalie) Schenn (for 3rd line equivalency to a cup contender) Kyrou and Thomas ( to someone who might want a reclamation project) and Parayko and Faulk and then this team can't function even as a tanking team.

The last thing you want to do to your young guys who are here is make them play impossible hockey. That is how losing rot sets in. If the Blues go full nuclear and trade away their defense, they have 0 guys who can step in and even make it appear like AHL hockey. That is a recipe for disaster. So that leaves me to believe the only trade pieces you have are Kyrou/Thomas/Binner/Schenn. 2 of which aren't going to bring you back much.

[crookedfeeder]

I don't think anyone is taking calls on Buchnevich right now.

+1. NOBODY is salivating for a 4gl $8m player.....that could, possibly, be hockey dumb.

[hockey jedi]

Buchy has more worth to STL than he does as trade. It's just that simple. If the contract ages horribly it ages horribly. No one is taking it on right now. He would have to go on an epic tear to get people interested. Thomas and Kyrou? Well you can still sell the maybe I can fix this scenario to another team.

The only guys of value for trade that can be thought about trading for the Blues are Binner (to a team with 0 goalie) Schenn (for 3rd line equivalency to a cup contender) Kyrou and Thomas ( to someone who might want a reclamation project) and Parayko and Faulk and then this team can't function even as a tanking team.

The last thing you want to do to your young guys who are here is make them play impossible hockey. That is how losing rot sets in. If the Blues go full nuclear and trade away their defense, they have 0 guys who can step in and even make it appear like AHL hockey. That is a recipe for disaster. So that leaves me to believe the only trade pieces you have are Kyrou/Thomas/Binner/Schenn. 2 of which aren't going to bring you back much.

Good post, but I want to expand. I think, as you said, would have to go on an epic terror right to the playoff deadline. Also, he would have to account to GM's that his lack of production was an anomaly due to playing hurt and not disclosing. Finally, he may have to find a new dynamic for his game, such as becoming more physical. He's got to find a way to stick around.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

I don't think anyone is taking calls on Buchnevich right now.

You beat me to it. If we released (expensive buyout) him, someone would take a flier on him. However, I can't believe he has any trade value now. I think he's done as far as being a productive player. I'm not upset with Army signing him. He had a great first year with the Blues, but his game has gone to (bleep).

I’m not a fan of Buch at all. But to be fair, he had two really good years with us (over a point per game production), and two more solid years at .75 PPG, which was the perfect time to sell him!!! We didn’t and instead gave him that ridiculous extension. I woulda been fine with 3yrs @ $6m, but not 6 x $8 that he got. His production is bad this year, his speed is dropping (not that he was ever fast), and he still is a mental midget. So you are spot on that he has zero or negative trade value. The benefit of ANY team taking him would be freeing up the cap space for this offseason.

Too bad we couldn’t waive him and have a team like the Hawks, Sharks or Ducks grab him!!

[LGB73]

The question with trading Buch is what do you have to add to entice someone to take him and his contract.

[callitwhatyouwant]

Buchy has more worth to STL than he does as trade. It's just that simple. If the contract ages horribly it ages horribly. No one is taking it on right now. He would have to go on an epic tear to get people interested. Thomas and Kyrou? Well you can still sell the maybe I can fix this scenario to another team.

The only guys of value for trade that can be thought about trading for the Blues are Binner (to a team with 0 goalie) Schenn (for 3rd line equivalency to a cup contender) Kyrou and Thomas ( to someone who might want a reclamation project) and Parayko and Faulk and then this team can't function even as a tanking team.

The last thing you want to do to your young guys who are here is make them play impossible hockey. That is how losing rot sets in. If the Blues go full nuclear and trade away their defense, they have 0 guys who can step in and even make it appear like AHL hockey. That is a recipe for disaster. So that leaves me to believe the only trade pieces you have are Kyrou/Thomas/Binner/Schenn. 2 of which aren't going to bring you back much.

Good post, but I want to expand. I think, as you said, would have to go on an epic terror right to the playoff deadline. Also, he would have to account to GM's that his lack of production was an anomaly due to playing hurt and not disclosing. Finally, he may have to find a new dynamic for his game, such as becoming more physical. He's got to find a way to stick around.

he has 6 points in his last 8.

[zamadoo]

Buchy has more worth to STL than he does as trade. It's just that simple. If the contract ages horribly it ages horribly. No one is taking it on right now. He would have to go on an epic tear to get people interested. Thomas and Kyrou? Well you can still sell the maybe I can fix this scenario to another team.

The only guys of value for trade that can be thought about trading for the Blues are Binner (to a team with 0 goalie) Schenn (for 3rd line equivalency to a cup contender) Kyrou and Thomas ( to someone who might want a reclamation project) and Parayko and Faulk and then this team can't function even as a tanking team.

The last thing you want to do to your young guys who are here is make them play impossible hockey. That is how losing rot sets in. If the Blues go full nuclear and trade away their defense, they have 0 guys who can step in and even make it appear like AHL hockey. That is a recipe for disaster. So that leaves me to believe the only trade pieces you have are Kyrou/Thomas/Binner/Schenn. 2 of which aren't going to bring you back much.

Good post, but I want to expand. I think, as you said, would have to go on an epic terror right to the playoff deadline. Also, he would have to account to GM's that his lack of production was an anomaly due to playing hurt and not disclosing. Finally, he may have to find a new dynamic for his game, such as becoming more physical. He's got to find a way to stick around.

he has 6 points in his last 8.

Was it the game winning assist that was the even strength deflection from Buch to Neighbours last night?