"If's" Donny & Nado

[Basil Shabazz]

If we trade Donovan…

And if the only offers we get for Nado are fringe or filler players while we still eat a significant portion of his salary, then I say we keep him—at least until the trade deadline.

At that point, we can still maximize the value of his Gold Glove defense at third base. The best-case scenario is that he rebounds to a respectable level at the plate and becomes an appealing piece for contending teams at the 2026 deadline.

Bottom line: if we’re going to pay Nado anyway and the return is minimal, I’d rather have him anchoring the defense at the hot corner and hope his bat comes back around.

[Hoosier59]

Normally, I’d agree with you, but the thing is, DeWitt wants to shed payroll! Plain and simple, he doesn’t care what the return is, for the most part.

[sikeston bulldog2]

If we trade Donovan…

And if the only offers we get for Nado are fringe or filler players while we still eat a significant portion of his salary, then I say we keep him—at least until the trade deadline.

At that point, we can still maximize the value of his Gold Glove defense at third base. The best-case scenario is that he rebounds to a respectable level at the plate and becomes an appealing piece for contending teams at the 2026 deadline.

Bottom line: if we’re going to pay Nado anyway and the return is minimal, I’d rather have him anchoring the defense at the hot corner and hope his bat comes back around.

First it’s a reboot. Second he blocks no one- JJ?

His glove plays. If he becomes a league average hitter, he has value. I would expect no worse than last year.

[mattmitchl44]

That's not an unreasonable position.

I think, however, that because of Arenado's NTC you want to get him sent to some place he's willing to go while you can.

[Basil Shabazz]

That's not an unreasonable position.

I think, however, that because of Arenado's NTC you want to get him sent to some place he's willing to go while you can.

I think any team wanting him at the trade deadline would be appealing due to their chance of winning and going to a competitive environment.

[ramfandan]

Something to consider .. Nado has reportedly expanded his list of teams to be traded to ... If not moved this winter and kept til next trade deadline, he could have a change of heart of a specific team that wants him ... If he says NO, I rather finish the year out here and we can revisit a trade next offseason , the Cardinals could be in a bind again. Think if he is willing to expand that list now, jump on it .

What's the saying he who hesitates is lost

[Hoosier59]

I should have said for Arenado. Donovan won’t be moved unless it’s for a good return.

[mattmitchl44]

That's not an unreasonable position.

I think, however, that because of Arenado's NTC you want to get him sent to some place he's willing to go while you can.

I think any team wanting him at the trade deadline would be appealing due to their chance of winning and going to a competitive environment.

Or, maybe, he can visualize some team that he's willing to go to now as going to be "competitive", even if they are not going to turn out that way. And maybe the teams that are really "competitive" at the trading deadline won't have any interest in him.

[Cusecards]

If we trade Donovan…

And if the only offers we get for Nado are fringe or filler players while we still eat a significant portion of his salary, then I say we keep him—at least until the trade deadline.

At that point, we can still maximize the value of his Gold Glove defense at third base. The best-case scenario is that he rebounds to a respectable level at the plate and becomes an appealing piece for contending teams at the 2026 deadline.

Bottom line: if we’re going to pay Nado anyway and the return is minimal, I’d rather have him anchoring the defense at the hot corner and hope his bat comes back around.

I agree that the deadline might be the best time to move him.
If he bounces back AND proves healthy his lower 2027 contract would be more enticing.

[billybaseball]

Normally, I’d agree with you, but the thing is, DeWitt wants to shed payroll! Plain and simple, he doesn’t care what the return is, for the most part.

Dewitt isn't shedding payroll to save money. He's trying to move Arenado because Arenado needs to go. Dewitt paid for half of Gray's contract to get a better prospect. If he was just trying to shed payroll then he wouldn't have ate 20m.

[ecleme22]

That's not an unreasonable position.

I think, however, that because of Arenado's NTC you want to get him sent to some place he's willing to go while you can.

I think any team wanting him at the trade deadline would be appealing due to their chance of winning and going to a competitive environment.

The problem with NA is that he has two years left on his deal. So he would not only need to get up to respectful levels at the deadline, but he would also need to do so in a way that a team could buy into him as more than a rental.

Which is why I like the Arenado for Castellanos trade idea. NC only has one more year on his deal, so if he rebounds to .745 OPS /16 HR at the break, some team would want him...

[rockondlouie]

Not the worst thought Basil and you could be spot on as C. Bloom is on record as saying he isn't going to "give" Donny away nor is he going to "DFA" NADO.

Bloom can play the long game w/Donny given how in-demand he is (last count is at least 15 teams have inquired).

I'd like to see the NADO situation cleared up sooner rather than later simply so it clears up 3rd base where N. Gorman is going to get first crack at proving himself.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base but Donny can slot into LF until mid season or even 3rd base if Gorman flops.

But I'd bet the final acquiring team will want Donny all season and Bloom will get his asking price before STing.

JMO

[Talkin' Baseball]

Not the worst thought Basil and you could be spot on as C. Bloom is on record as saying he isn't going to "give" Donny away nor is he going to "DFA" NADO.

Bloom can play the long game w/Donny given how in-demand he is (last count is at least 15 teams have inquired).

I'd like to see the NADO situation cleared up sooner rather than later simply so it clears up 3rd base where N. Gorman is going to get first crack at proving himself.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base but Donny can slot into LF until mid season or even 3rd base if Gorman flops.

But I'd bet the final acquiring team will want Donny all season and Bloom will get his asking price before STing.

JMO

True, but you can overplay your hand. We've talked to death all the benefits of Donovan, but at the end of the day he's a 3-win player. A nice player, but a 3-win player. The team has done and excellent job of bringing interest in him to a head at just the right time. Now finish it off. Cultivate the best offer next week from all these teams with purported interest and make a decision about which one is best and if that is acceptable. You can wait too long.

[rockondlouie]

Not the worst thought Basil and you could be spot on as C. Bloom is on record as saying he isn't going to "give" Donny away nor is he going to "DFA" NADO.

Bloom can play the long game w/Donny given how in-demand he is (last count is at least 15 teams have inquired).

I'd like to see the NADO situation cleared up sooner rather than later simply so it clears up 3rd base where N. Gorman is going to get first crack at proving himself.

JJW is going to be at 2nd base but Donny can slot into LF until mid season or even 3rd base if Gorman flops.

But I'd bet the final acquiring team will want Donny all season and Bloom will get his asking price before STing.

JMO

True, but you can overplay your hand. We've talked to death all the benefits of Donovan, but at the end of the day he's a 3-win player. A nice player, but a 3-win player. The team has done and excellent job of bringing interest in him to a head at just the right time. Now finish it off. Cultivate the best offer next week from all these teams with purported interest and make a decision about which one is best and if that is acceptable. You can wait too long.

He's being viewed around MLB as that player who could finally put a team over the top, I don't see any danger in "over playing your hand" when you're holding a full house (okay my bad ).

But we're in agreement as I said in my last line, I think he's dealt before STing and more than likely by months end or early in 2026.

Bloom seems to know what he wants (re: S. Gray deal).

When he gets it, then he'll pull the trigger.

[Basil Shabazz]

That's not an unreasonable position.

I think, however, that because of Arenado's NTC you want to get him sent to some place he's willing to go while you can.

I think any team wanting him at the trade deadline would be appealing due to their chance of winning and going to a competitive environment.

The problem with NA is that he has two years left on his deal. So he would not only need to get up to respectful levels at the deadline, but he would also need to do so in a way that a team could buy into him as more than a rental.

Which is why I like the Arenado for Castellanos trade idea. NC only has one more year on his deal, so if he rebounds to .745 OPS /16 HR at the break, some team would want him...

Nado's last year of his contract is significantly lower than this year's.

[ecleme22]

That's not an unreasonable position.

I think, however, that because of Arenado's NTC you want to get him sent to some place he's willing to go while you can.

I think any team wanting him at the trade deadline would be appealing due to their chance of winning and going to a competitive environment.

The problem with NA is that he has two years left on his deal. So he would not only need to get up to respectful levels at the deadline, but he would also need to do so in a way that a team could buy into him as more than a rental.

Which is why I like the Arenado for Castellanos trade idea. NC only has one more year on his deal, so if he rebounds to .745 OPS /16 HR at the break, some team would want him...

Nado's last year of his contract is significantly lower than this year's.

True, but it’s still 15mil.

Your argument isn’t a bad one. I guess we will wait and see.