Noot showing most interest per Ms Woo

[Goldfan]

I just don't see how Nootbaar could be getting more trade interest than Donovan. The only thing I can think of would be Nootbaar wouldn't require as much of a return.

He's not.

One of the most impressive things Bloom has done so far is his handling of the Nootbaar situation. About a week before the GM meetings for "no apparent reason" he gives a public update on Noot's recovery. People wondered if he might miss the whole season, but no, he may be ready for the opener, if not about a month after. He will not miss significant time. Now about a week before the Winter Meetings Bloom comments about the good interest in Nootbaar and it is being circulated, and regurgitated, and regurgitated about how much interest there is in Nootbaar. It gets said so often that people accept it as true. Bloom is creating a market for someone who looked unmarketable in October. Mo would/could have never done that.

Most likely

[rockondlouie]

Lotta hate in here for Noot but truth is when healthy he's the Cardinals best all round OF'er w/strong upside.

I wouldn't deal him until mid season, after his return and hopefully he increases that trade value even more.

Rock, he’ll be 29 end of next season. So he goes from all these years of hope, promise and breakout….directly to declining in 30’s??
Where’s this upside? If the narrative is that he hasn’t fulfilled his “potential” because of injuries every season….then he also need to realize he can’t stay healthy…..either way, below avg production for corner OF

Low bar being the recent Cardinals team best all round OF'er and notice I said "when healthy".

IF he'd stay healthy and get 600 PA's, then I'd bet he could be a .350 OB%/.800 OPS hitter w/20 HR potential.

No doubt he's injury prone.

But there's a reason Woo reports multiple teams are interested, they see the same thing I do.

Yes, I hope all those teams see the same “things” you do
And if Bloom gets some real talent back……a bust of that magnificent chin should be displayed prominently at Busch

As I said above, I'd wait to deal him mid season in the hopes he puts together a couple solid months and ups the trade value.

If great interest now…as Woo said… no need to wait

Sure and for a lesser return, no need to rush dealing him unless Bloom gets exactly what he wants.

[zuck698]

I am just worried and wonder what it does to our hotbed of potential Japanese signings by trading Noot away? I am sure it is just a matter of time till we see the results of his work and affiliation with those potential Japanese talents coming to the Lou!

[renostl]

I just don't see how Nootbaar could be getting more trade interest than Donovan. The only thing I can think of would be Nootbaar wouldn't require as much of a return.

He's not.

One of the most impressive things Bloom has done so far is his handling of the Nootbaar situation. About a week before the GM meetings for "no apparent reason" he gives a public update on Noot's recovery. People wondered if he might miss the whole season, but no, he may be ready for the opener, if not about a month after. He will not miss significant time. Now about a week before the Winter Meetings Bloom comments about the good interest in Nootbaar and it is being circulated, and regurgitated, and regurgitated about how much interest there is in Nootbaar. It gets said so often that people accept it as true. Bloom is creating a market for someone who looked unmarketable in October. Mo would/could have never done that.

Most likely

Quantity of calls doesn't mean a better return.
Some of those teams may see a buy low opportunity.
BD likely sticks where he goes and will cost more, IMO.

Weird does happen. What was once the easiest position to fill
has some teams putting infielders out there. SD has 2 out there.
With Boston shopping Duran, I'd be interested.

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Lotta hate in here for Noot but truth is when healthy he's the Cardinals best all round OF'er w/strong upside.

I wouldn't deal him until mid season, after his return and hopefully he increases that trade value even more.

Rock, he’ll be 29 end of next season. So he goes from all these years of hope, promise and breakout….directly to declining in 30’s??
Where’s this upside? If the narrative is that he hasn’t fulfilled his “potential” because of injuries every season….then he also need to realize he can’t stay healthy…..either way, below avg production for corner OF

Low bar being the recent Cardinals team best all round OF'er and notice I said "when healthy".

IF he'd stay healthy and get 600 PA's, then I'd bet he could be a .350 OB%/.800 OPS hitter w/20 HR potential.

No doubt he's injury prone.

But there's a reason Woo reports multiple teams are interested, they see the same thing I do.

Well, he got 583 PAs this year, and what did that produce? Not much.

[rockondlouie]

Lotta hate in here for Noot but truth is when healthy he's the Cardinals best all round OF'er w/strong upside.

I wouldn't deal him until mid season, after his return and hopefully he increases that trade value even more.

Rock, he’ll be 29 end of next season. So he goes from all these years of hope, promise and breakout….directly to declining in 30’s??
Where’s this upside? If the narrative is that he hasn’t fulfilled his “potential” because of injuries every season….then he also need to realize he can’t stay healthy…..either way, below avg production for corner OF

Low bar being the recent Cardinals team best all round OF'er and notice I said "when healthy".

IF he'd stay healthy and get 600 PA's, then I'd bet he could be a .350 OB%/.800 OPS hitter w/20 HR potential.

No doubt he's injury prone.

But there's a reason Woo reports multiple teams are interested, they see the same thing I do.

Well, he got 583 PAs this year, and what did that produce? Not much.

And we found out he was playing hurt on not one but two bad heels.

[Goldfan]

Lotta hate in here for Noot but truth is when healthy he's the Cardinals best all round OF'er w/strong upside.

I wouldn't deal him until mid season, after his return and hopefully he increases that trade value even more.

Rock, he’ll be 29 end of next season. So he goes from all these years of hope, promise and breakout….directly to declining in 30’s??
Where’s this upside? If the narrative is that he hasn’t fulfilled his “potential” because of injuries every season….then he also need to realize he can’t stay healthy…..either way, below avg production for corner OF

Low bar being the recent Cardinals team best all round OF'er and notice I said "when healthy".

IF he'd stay healthy and get 600 PA's, then I'd bet he could be a .350 OB%/.800 OPS hitter w/20 HR potential.

No doubt he's injury prone.

But there's a reason Woo reports multiple teams are interested, they see the same thing I do.

Well, he got 583 PAs this year, and what did that produce? Not much.

And we found out he was playing hurt on not one but two bad heels.

And I asked in another thread….is his performance was being affected then whey didn’t they shut him down. He played most of SEPT

[rockondlouie]

Lotta hate in here for Noot but truth is when healthy he's the Cardinals best all round OF'er w/strong upside.

I wouldn't deal him until mid season, after his return and hopefully he increases that trade value even more.

Rock, he’ll be 29 end of next season. So he goes from all these years of hope, promise and breakout….directly to declining in 30’s??
Where’s this upside? If the narrative is that he hasn’t fulfilled his “potential” because of injuries every season….then he also need to realize he can’t stay healthy…..either way, below avg production for corner OF

Low bar being the recent Cardinals team best all round OF'er and notice I said "when healthy".

IF he'd stay healthy and get 600 PA's, then I'd bet he could be a .350 OB%/.800 OPS hitter w/20 HR potential.

No doubt he's injury prone.

But there's a reason Woo reports multiple teams are interested, they see the same thing I do.

Well, he got 583 PAs this year, and what did that produce? Not much.

And we found out he was playing hurt on not one but two bad heels.

And I asked in another thread….is his performance was being affected then whey didn’t they shut him down. He played most of SEPT

Agreed, should've been shutdown and had the surgery so he'd be ready for STing.

Re:
Oli

Re:
Mo

[Goldfan]

Lotta hate in here for Noot but truth is when healthy he's the Cardinals best all round OF'er w/strong upside.

I wouldn't deal him until mid season, after his return and hopefully he increases that trade value even more.

Rock, he’ll be 29 end of next season. So he goes from all these years of hope, promise and breakout….directly to declining in 30’s??
Where’s this upside? If the narrative is that he hasn’t fulfilled his “potential” because of injuries every season….then he also need to realize he can’t stay healthy…..either way, below avg production for corner OF

Low bar being the recent Cardinals team best all round OF'er and notice I said "when healthy".

IF he'd stay healthy and get 600 PA's, then I'd bet he could be a .350 OB%/.800 OPS hitter w/20 HR potential.

No doubt he's injury prone.

But there's a reason Woo reports multiple teams are interested, they see the same thing I do.

Well, he got 583 PAs this year, and what did that produce? Not much.

And we found out he was playing hurt on not one but two bad heels.

And I asked in another thread….is his performance was being affected then whey didn’t they shut him down. He played most of SEPT

Agreed, should've been shutdown and had the surgery so he'd be ready for STing.

Re:
Oli

Re:
Mo

This circular argument never stops:

If only he’d play a full season >>>>>>all could see how great he is…..
He plays close to a full season>>>>he didn’t perform because he was playing injured
Let someone else realize his full potential
You let him play next season to showcase>>>>>he’ll end up injured again, leaving no doubt that he’s FRAGILE
Trade NOW
We’ll refer to this going Forward as the “Fedde Principle”