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Re: Portal season

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Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 13:26 pm
winonsports wrote: 03 Dec 2025 12:49 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 12:30 pm
winonsports wrote: 03 Dec 2025 12:11 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 11:20 am
winonsports wrote: 03 Dec 2025 11:13 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 10:46 am Most astute observers and even a lot of MU fans can see that Pribula is not a SEC-level starting QB, but you see something else entirely...

Why do you keep spreading this rumor about a hand injury? No one connected to the team has suggested anything like that, but you keep insisting...

Are you his mother?
Don't be a hypocrite Red Bird.

You have been spreading the rumor that Drink is a State employee. He's not but you keep insisting.

Are you the Comptroller?
Every employee who works for the University of Missouri is a state employee.

The state owns the school. So if you work for the school you're working for the state of Missouri. You can play semantic games if you like, but Coach Drink is a state employee just like governor Mike Kehoe who makes a paltry $140,596.
You are arguing an urban myth.

https://mapyourtaxes.mo.gov/map/employe ... 5&agency=0

But you are right about Kehoe.

https://mapyourtaxes.mo.gov/map/employe ... 5&agency=0
Your argument is specious--based on the states practice of not including employees of universities in it's public data base. But the state owns the university of Missouri. Therefore university employees work for the state of Missouri.
Specious would be saying that Drink's compensation comes from taxpayer dollars or University funding.
Who do you think is signing those checks?

While I Don't know how much of the athletic department's funding is from donations, ticket sales, advertising, or TV revenue, it's all university funds.
Even if all of coach Drink's pay comes from donations, he's still an employee of the University and thus an employee of the state just as professors paid from public or private grant money are still employees of the University and the state of Missouri.

It might surprise some, but "demonstrated ability to earn grants," is often seen on faculty job announcements. :(

Still, people hired on that basis are not working for the grant givers, they're working for MU and the state of Missouri.
It all Athletics Department funds.

Laird Veatch uses that money to authorize payroll direct deposits to the coaches and staff
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Re: Portal season

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Biggest problem for Beau was a awful OC/QB coach who did NOT design the O to take advantage of His abilities nor rest of the assets. Beau definitely REGRESSED as season went along the opposite of what you would expect with more reps.

Your fault, my fault no ones fault he is NOT the guy you want starting for your team next year so simply don't sign him to another contract and let him hit the TP and then you will see what he is truly worth or what other teams think of him.

Not when you can go into portal and find a guy experienced and knows how to find secondary receivers and go long. Of course first thing is Eli needs to do the obvious and encourage KM to find another OC job ANYWHERE else, like the mountain west which is the level he is qualified for.

Even you fools who know absolutely nothing about football should not want the uncertainty of The key position unsettled. He has a bigger budget so go find a sure thing. You can't depend on Zollers as he didn't show enough in his time starting but let Eli's annual QB competition happen knowing the veteran you spent big bucks on will be the guy.

This is where Eli shines and IF he wants to be successful he HAS TO cut Kirby and the ST's guy neither of which are power 4 worthy.
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Re: Portal season

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winonsports wrote: 04 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 13:26 pm
winonsports wrote: 03 Dec 2025 12:49 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 12:30 pm
winonsports wrote: 03 Dec 2025 12:11 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 11:20 am
winonsports wrote: 03 Dec 2025 11:13 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 03 Dec 2025 10:46 am Most astute observers and even a lot of MU fans can see that Pribula is not a SEC-level starting QB, but you see something else entirely...

Why do you keep spreading this rumor about a hand injury? No one connected to the team has suggested anything like that, but you keep insisting...

Are you his mother?
Don't be a hypocrite Red Bird.

You have been spreading the rumor that Drink is a State employee. He's not but you keep insisting.

Are you the Comptroller?
Every employee who works for the University of Missouri is a state employee.

The state owns the school. So if you work for the school you're working for the state of Missouri. You can play semantic games if you like, but Coach Drink is a state employee just like governor Mike Kehoe who makes a paltry $140,596.
You are arguing an urban myth.

https://mapyourtaxes.mo.gov/map/employe ... 5&agency=0

But you are right about Kehoe.

https://mapyourtaxes.mo.gov/map/employe ... 5&agency=0
Your argument is specious--based on the states practice of not including employees of universities in it's public data base. But the state owns the university of Missouri. Therefore university employees work for the state of Missouri.
Specious would be saying that Drink's compensation comes from taxpayer dollars or University funding.
Who do you think is signing those checks?

While I Don't know how much of the athletic department's funding is from donations, ticket sales, advertising, or TV revenue, it's all university funds.
Even if all of coach Drink's pay comes from donations, he's still an employee of the University and thus an employee of the state just as professors paid from public or private grant money are still employees of the University and the state of Missouri.

It might surprise some, but "demonstrated ability to earn grants," is often seen on faculty job announcements. :(

Still, people hired on that basis are not working for the grant givers, they're working for MU and the state of Missouri.
It all Athletics Department funds.

Laird Veatch uses that money to authorize payroll direct deposits to the coaches and staff
And the Athletics department is a part of the University, and the University is owned by the state, which means that no matter how convoluted the pathway, Drink and his assistants are all state employees. :)
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Re: Portal season

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woofy25 wrote: 03 Dec 2025 20:05 pm
onemizzou wrote: 03 Dec 2025 18:57 pm
woofy25 wrote: 03 Dec 2025 15:21 pm
onemizzou wrote: 03 Dec 2025 09:15 am
woofy25 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 23:09 pm Unless Beaus hand was really injured, there is no way anyone could think Mizzou is fine at QB going into next season. Literally nothing supports that claim
Go watch the Kansas game again before making these types of statements. Beau can deliver the ball if given some time and some decent route designs.
Watch the other 6.5 P4 games before making your statements. The main game in which he had no time to do anything was Auburn. While the Oline had its own pass pro issues in other games, that is not the only thing to blame for a non-existent in-conference passing game.

Let the record show, my statement stands, if his hand wasn't injured, then they need to go portal shopping. If his hand was injured, then maybe he is closer to his Kansas performance. I'll also say it's not just about delivering the ball, it's about making reads. He missed wide open receivers all year long. None more egregious than missing Johnson at the end of the Bama game.
I think it's funny how you think that ANY college QB is perfect at seeing all the reads and open receivers. Give me the game film on ANY college QB and I'll show you missed reads all f*(bleep) day. This was Beau's first year as a starter and first time facing real passing defenses. Was he great? No. Does he deserve to learn and progress? Yes. Had we had a kicker and a halfway decent oline no one would be complaining about our 10 win season. You're not going to find the messiah of QBs in the portal that wants to come to Mizzou. Two of the best ones passed on us last year so get used to the fact that Beau is our starting QB next year, if he chooses to stay (and you should hope that he does) . Then pray that we can find some very good oline talent in the portal.
Now you’re putting words in my mouth which shows you don’t want to have any real dialogue. With the transfer portal and $10M salaries, nobody cares about developing QBs anymore. What matters is winning now. Drink, himself, talks about it.
Beat hasn’t thrown a touchdown pass since October 11, 3 1/2 games. Since sept 13, he has thrown 4 touchdowns. That is horrendous. It’s not acceptable and it needs to change. The entire passing game needs to be rebuilt. That includes the OC, the offensive scheme, the route running, and possibly the QB. If his hand was not injured, the best thing you can say about beau is that he’s a good runner, and a run first QB isn’t good enough.
If it’s beau and Zollers in the spring, Zollers may very well win the job. By no means should beau be penciled in as qb1
Where to start. Zollers is not going to win the QB job in the spring if Beau is here. Only if Beau or Matt Decides to leave should we go to the portal to get a QB. Someone has to develop QBs or else there won't be anyone in the portal either, may as well do it here. I'm still not sure if the offensive design and play calling is Kirby's or Drink's fault, I actually hope it's Kirby's since we just re-upped Drink's contract. That way we can get someone new in to fix the offensive play calls because even though the Oline was pretty dismal you could still call plays to mitigate it's problem but I didn't see that being done this season.

Our #1 offensive priority is getting the OLine in order. Unfortunately I don't see that happening how we'd like either. The OLine takes time to gel and we haven't had the development in our OLine prospects to get to that type of situation. Ideally you want guys to be in the program for years to get into the flow of the line play. We haven't had that since Foster and Delgado left. I don't see throwing a bunch of news guys together again fixing the problem. I think the only possible success path is that Green stays and some of the young guys step up (way up). Missing out on Sprague, Rogers, Fasusi, and Bablola the last two years is hurting us.
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Re: Portal season

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onemizzou wrote: 04 Dec 2025 13:31 pm
woofy25 wrote: 03 Dec 2025 20:05 pm
onemizzou wrote: 03 Dec 2025 18:57 pm
woofy25 wrote: 03 Dec 2025 15:21 pm
onemizzou wrote: 03 Dec 2025 09:15 am
woofy25 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 23:09 pm Unless Beaus hand was really injured, there is no way anyone could think Mizzou is fine at QB going into next season. Literally nothing supports that claim
Go watch the Kansas game again before making these types of statements. Beau can deliver the ball if given some time and some decent route designs.
Watch the other 6.5 P4 games before making your statements. The main game in which he had no time to do anything was Auburn. While the Oline had its own pass pro issues in other games, that is not the only thing to blame for a non-existent in-conference passing game.

Let the record show, my statement stands, if his hand wasn't injured, then they need to go portal shopping. If his hand was injured, then maybe he is closer to his Kansas performance. I'll also say it's not just about delivering the ball, it's about making reads. He missed wide open receivers all year long. None more egregious than missing Johnson at the end of the Bama game.
I think it's funny how you think that ANY college QB is perfect at seeing all the reads and open receivers. Give me the game film on ANY college QB and I'll show you missed reads all f*(bleep) day. This was Beau's first year as a starter and first time facing real passing defenses. Was he great? No. Does he deserve to learn and progress? Yes. Had we had a kicker and a halfway decent oline no one would be complaining about our 10 win season. You're not going to find the messiah of QBs in the portal that wants to come to Mizzou. Two of the best ones passed on us last year so get used to the fact that Beau is our starting QB next year, if he chooses to stay (and you should hope that he does) . Then pray that we can find some very good oline talent in the portal.
Now you’re putting words in my mouth which shows you don’t want to have any real dialogue. With the transfer portal and $10M salaries, nobody cares about developing QBs anymore. What matters is winning now. Drink, himself, talks about it.
Beat hasn’t thrown a touchdown pass since October 11, 3 1/2 games. Since sept 13, he has thrown 4 touchdowns. That is horrendous. It’s not acceptable and it needs to change. The entire passing game needs to be rebuilt. That includes the OC, the offensive scheme, the route running, and possibly the QB. If his hand was not injured, the best thing you can say about beau is that he’s a good runner, and a run first QB isn’t good enough.
If it’s beau and Zollers in the spring, Zollers may very well win the job. By no means should beau be penciled in as qb1
Where to start. Zollers is not going to win the QB job in the spring if Beau is here. Only if Beau or Matt Decides to leave should we go to the portal to get a QB. Someone has to develop QBs or else there won't be anyone in the portal either, may as well do it here. I'm still not sure if the offensive design and play calling is Kirby's or Drink's fault, I actually hope it's Kirby's since we just re-upped Drink's contract. That way we can get someone new in to fix the offensive play calls because even though the Oline was pretty dismal you could still call plays to mitigate it's problem but I didn't see that being done this season.

Our #1 offensive priority is getting the OLine in order. Unfortunately I don't see that happening how we'd like either. The OLine takes time to gel and we haven't had the development in our OLine prospects to get to that type of situation. Ideally you want guys to be in the program for years to get into the flow of the line play. We haven't had that since Foster and Delgado left. I don't see throwing a bunch of news guys together again fixing the problem. I think the only possible success path is that Green stays and some of the young guys step up (way up). Missing out on Sprague, Rogers, Fasusi, and Bablola the last two years is hurting us.
I just don't see what Beau did over the course of the entire season that leads you to believe Beau is the clear starting QB. I'd bet that Drink will say it's a competition going into Spring. Again, Beau's only saving grace is the potential hand injury. If he wasn't injured, then we was bad with the exception of the Kansas game. That isn't even really subjective. He was bad. A guy who throws 11 TDs should never be considered the penciled in starter for the next season. The passing game is completely inept, and is THE reason they're not in the playoffs.

I agree that lineman are better when developed within the program. However, the main problem last year is they missed on their top portal lineman and got sloppy seconds. Supposedly, they have more NIL this season. Hope so, b/c they need it.

Drink's philosophy has always been run first, but that may be because he's never had a gunslinger. Zollers has a cannon. Maybe that philosophy changes a bit when they have a guy who can throw downfield.
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Re: Portal season

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It should always be a competition but if it's between Pribula and Zollers my guess would be Pribula has the edge. If OL needs time to develop, then so do QBs. It was his first year starting and it was behind a [shirt]ty OL with some bad play calling to boot. When your QB is being battered by Central Arkansas and UMass, you're not putting him in a good position to succeed. Hope both guys up their games and the team fixes the OL woes, so whoever wins the job has a chance to show what they can do.
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Re: Portal season

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Can't understand how a program can make this kind of investment in a player rated as highly and recruited by highly touted programs as Zollers and not be given a clear chance to win the job in his second year.

That's ridiculous.

Drinkwitz and or Moore are the wrong guys to lead this offense if they are missing on a guy like Zollers period.

He has all the makings. Big arm, size, leadership, and oodles of folks saying the moment is not too big for him.

He needs playing time and the non con games before SEC schedule starts is just the time to do it in 2026.
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Re: Portal season

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Seems we have been having this QB conversation for at least the last 3 years at MU.
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Drinkwitz will not let Zollers play. He was heaping praise on Pribula after the last 2 games. Why? No idea. He's a runner, not a passer.
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