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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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Upside was supposed to be offensive mainly. Still seeing none. So, no love.
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Bacchk29 wrote: 30 Nov 2025 11:16 am Upside was supposed to be offensive mainly. Still seeing none. So, no love.
22 years old and 21 nhl games under his belt and you see nothing in terms of offensive potential?

His speed, his shot, his size, his strength?

I can see that potential in his last 4 games.....with point being it's like 50% better than his first round of games.

Pretty sure Monty see's it.
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:43 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:27 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:23 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:15 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:03 am Like others have said…it’s early, but…I love him startin to show his potential, and seein what a slight few of us saw in him before his rough start. I kept sayin …PATIENCE, whike others were pining away for the future HOF’er Superstar Bolduc :).
He dominated at the AHL level which usually means that they will have a good NHL career. You could see from the first game when he came back up that his confidence has improved. He's going to have some hiccups but I also put up some points. This trade was never about this season, but two or three seasons from now.
When they sent him down to Springfield he didn't dominate before they brought him back up, it was more like a reset button. For several games down there after the Blues sent him down I still had no idea what he could even do on the ice because he had shown nothing. If I had watched Laval at all last year I would have seen something since he was an all-star, but I wasn't seeing it with Springfield. He was getting more minutes and he scored a goal finally so it must have helped. I still wouldn't say I felt confident in him or comfortable with him at the AHL level. Thus, it sounds like he finally is showing a glimpse or two at the NHL level. I mean, in a bleak outset, yes, glimpses are welcome. Sounds like he had a glimpse game yesterday.
He's playing more sure of himself, more certain of his (better) decisions. You can see that. He's more involved as well, jumping in on scrums and almost inviting trouble.

He has shown some good offensive plays too like the great feed to Schenn last night.

I said yesterday I haven't seen him off net yet on his shots, which look deadly.

Long way to go but he looks like he belongs on this call up.
I think he just had to stop thinking when he's playing. He came to St Louis to a new team, manager and system. That's a lot to take in. It looks like he's just playing now. Last year Broberg came in and scored a few goals. We got all excited. He didn't score much after the injury, but his defensive game really blossomed.
That's what Pronger told him..."Just play the way you know how" to paraphrase.

Hope he continues on this path.
The problem is who told him otherwise? Just my opinion/guess but I think he was woefully mishandled and led to try to focus on all the things he is not good at out of the gate here.

I personally think the whole thing is a result of Army's number one priority being his own legacy.
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You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:21 pm You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
As far as I can tell most people have been pretty patient with Mailloux. I know I'm not unhappy with him, even though I think we got taken on the trade market.
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11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:21 pm You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
The way this place celebrates mediocrity instead of demanding change it may be another 50 years
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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juan good eye wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:21 pm You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
The way this place celebrates mediocrity instead of demanding change it may be another 50 years
Well I'm not celebrating mediocrity I'm just willing to let the kid play, get some experience with a defense partner and give it time.
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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skilles wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:00 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:43 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:27 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:23 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:15 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:03 am Like others have said…it’s early, but…I love him startin to show his potential, and seein what a slight few of us saw in him before his rough start. I kept sayin …PATIENCE, whike others were pining away for the future HOF’er Superstar Bolduc :).
He dominated at the AHL level which usually means that they will have a good NHL career. You could see from the first game when he came back up that his confidence has improved. He's going to have some hiccups but I also put up some points. This trade was never about this season, but two or three seasons from now.
When they sent him down to Springfield he didn't dominate before they brought him back up, it was more like a reset button. For several games down there after the Blues sent him down I still had no idea what he could even do on the ice because he had shown nothing. If I had watched Laval at all last year I would have seen something since he was an all-star, but I wasn't seeing it with Springfield. He was getting more minutes and he scored a goal finally so it must have helped. I still wouldn't say I felt confident in him or comfortable with him at the AHL level. Thus, it sounds like he finally is showing a glimpse or two at the NHL level. I mean, in a bleak outset, yes, glimpses are welcome. Sounds like he had a glimpse game yesterday.
He's playing more sure of himself, more certain of his (better) decisions. You can see that. He's more involved as well, jumping in on scrums and almost inviting trouble.

He has shown some good offensive plays too like the great feed to Schenn last night.

I said yesterday I haven't seen him off net yet on his shots, which look deadly.

Long way to go but he looks like he belongs on this call up.
I think he just had to stop thinking when he's playing. He came to St Louis to a new team, manager and system. That's a lot to take in. It looks like he's just playing now. Last year Broberg came in and scored a few goals. We got all excited. He didn't score much after the injury, but his defensive game really blossomed.
That's what Pronger told him..."Just play the way you know how" to paraphrase.

Hope he continues on this path.
The problem is who told him otherwise? Just my opinion/guess but I think he was woefully mishandled and led to try to focus on all the things he is not good at out of the gate here.

I personally think the whole thing is a result of Army's number one priority being his own legacy.
I'd say that's a huge stretch but you are certainly entitled to say it.
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 16:06 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:00 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:43 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:27 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:23 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:15 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:03 am Like others have said…it’s early, but…I love him startin to show his potential, and seein what a slight few of us saw in him before his rough start. I kept sayin …PATIENCE, whike others were pining away for the future HOF’er Superstar Bolduc :).
He dominated at the AHL level which usually means that they will have a good NHL career. You could see from the first game when he came back up that his confidence has improved. He's going to have some hiccups but I also put up some points. This trade was never about this season, but two or three seasons from now.
When they sent him down to Springfield he didn't dominate before they brought him back up, it was more like a reset button. For several games down there after the Blues sent him down I still had no idea what he could even do on the ice because he had shown nothing. If I had watched Laval at all last year I would have seen something since he was an all-star, but I wasn't seeing it with Springfield. He was getting more minutes and he scored a goal finally so it must have helped. I still wouldn't say I felt confident in him or comfortable with him at the AHL level. Thus, it sounds like he finally is showing a glimpse or two at the NHL level. I mean, in a bleak outset, yes, glimpses are welcome. Sounds like he had a glimpse game yesterday.
He's playing more sure of himself, more certain of his (better) decisions. You can see that. He's more involved as well, jumping in on scrums and almost inviting trouble.

He has shown some good offensive plays too like the great feed to Schenn last night.

I said yesterday I haven't seen him off net yet on his shots, which look deadly.

Long way to go but he looks like he belongs on this call up.
I think he just had to stop thinking when he's playing. He came to St Louis to a new team, manager and system. That's a lot to take in. It looks like he's just playing now. Last year Broberg came in and scored a few goals. We got all excited. He didn't score much after the injury, but his defensive game really blossomed.
That's what Pronger told him..."Just play the way you know how" to paraphrase.

Hope he continues on this path.
The problem is who told him otherwise? Just my opinion/guess but I think he was woefully mishandled and led to try to focus on all the things he is not good at out of the gate here.

I personally think the whole thing is a result of Army's number one priority being his own legacy.
I'd say that's a huge stretch but you are certainly entitled to say it.
Which part do you think is a huge stretch?
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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skilles wrote: 30 Nov 2025 16:20 pm
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 16:06 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:00 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:43 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:27 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:23 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:15 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:03 am Like others have said…it’s early, but…I love him startin to show his potential, and seein what a slight few of us saw in him before his rough start. I kept sayin …PATIENCE, whike others were pining away for the future HOF’er Superstar Bolduc :).
He dominated at the AHL level which usually means that they will have a good NHL career. You could see from the first game when he came back up that his confidence has improved. He's going to have some hiccups but I also put up some points. This trade was never about this season, but two or three seasons from now.
When they sent him down to Springfield he didn't dominate before they brought him back up, it was more like a reset button. For several games down there after the Blues sent him down I still had no idea what he could even do on the ice because he had shown nothing. If I had watched Laval at all last year I would have seen something since he was an all-star, but I wasn't seeing it with Springfield. He was getting more minutes and he scored a goal finally so it must have helped. I still wouldn't say I felt confident in him or comfortable with him at the AHL level. Thus, it sounds like he finally is showing a glimpse or two at the NHL level. I mean, in a bleak outset, yes, glimpses are welcome. Sounds like he had a glimpse game yesterday.
He's playing more sure of himself, more certain of his (better) decisions. You can see that. He's more involved as well, jumping in on scrums and almost inviting trouble.

He has shown some good offensive plays too like the great feed to Schenn last night.

I said yesterday I haven't seen him off net yet on his shots, which look deadly.

Long way to go but he looks like he belongs on this call up.
I think he just had to stop thinking when he's playing. He came to St Louis to a new team, manager and system. That's a lot to take in. It looks like he's just playing now. Last year Broberg came in and scored a few goals. We got all excited. He didn't score much after the injury, but his defensive game really blossomed.
That's what Pronger told him..."Just play the way you know how" to paraphrase.

Hope he continues on this path.
The problem is who told him otherwise? Just my opinion/guess but I think he was woefully mishandled and led to try to focus on all the things he is not good at out of the gate here.

I personally think the whole thing is a result of Army's number one priority being his own legacy.
I'd say that's a huge stretch but you are certainly entitled to say it.
Which part do you think is a huge stretch?
Your last sentence, almost no matter the context.

On you first para, I'm sure he received all kinds of advice from all kinds of caring people trying to ease his way in here. How he deciphered that advice and coaching and who he listened to pretty much up to him.

I'm just not thinking the worst here, why would I?
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I have seen very noticeable improvements in his game. Obviously, more impact in the offensive side is desirable but all-in-all I am somewhat impressed with his play since they brought him back up from the AHL
I suspect he will improve a lot with more games. Keep him paired with Fowler for the time being.
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11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:35 pm
juan good eye wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:21 pm You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
The way this place celebrates mediocrity instead of demanding change it may be another 50 years
Well I'm not celebrating mediocrity I'm just willing to let the kid play, get some experience with a defense partner and give it time.
Saying what you’re saying here and not liking the trade are two very different things. I don’t think I’ve seen a single person say to jettison the guy. I’d say 99% of the fanbase agrees with you so it’s not some monumental position you’re taking here
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MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Nov 2025 17:50 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:35 pm
juan good eye wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:21 pm You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
The way this place celebrates mediocrity instead of demanding change it may be another 50 years
Well I'm not celebrating mediocrity I'm just willing to let the kid play, get some experience with a defense partner and give it time.
Saying what you’re saying here and not liking the trade are two very different things. I don’t think I’ve seen a single person say to jettison the guy. I’d say 99% of the fanbase agrees with you so it’s not some monumental position you’re taking here
The criticism here early on was pretty rough Miami.

You were careful with yours but not all were.

Just sayin.
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 16:29 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Nov 2025 16:20 pm
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 16:06 pm
skilles wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:00 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 16:26 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:43 pm
dhsux wrote: 29 Nov 2025 15:27 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Nov 2025 14:23 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:15 am
SameOldBlues wrote: 29 Nov 2025 08:03 am Like others have said…it’s early, but…I love him startin to show his potential, and seein what a slight few of us saw in him before his rough start. I kept sayin …PATIENCE, whike others were pining away for the future HOF’er Superstar Bolduc :).
He dominated at the AHL level which usually means that they will have a good NHL career. You could see from the first game when he came back up that his confidence has improved. He's going to have some hiccups but I also put up some points. This trade was never about this season, but two or three seasons from now.
When they sent him down to Springfield he didn't dominate before they brought him back up, it was more like a reset button. For several games down there after the Blues sent him down I still had no idea what he could even do on the ice because he had shown nothing. If I had watched Laval at all last year I would have seen something since he was an all-star, but I wasn't seeing it with Springfield. He was getting more minutes and he scored a goal finally so it must have helped. I still wouldn't say I felt confident in him or comfortable with him at the AHL level. Thus, it sounds like he finally is showing a glimpse or two at the NHL level. I mean, in a bleak outset, yes, glimpses are welcome. Sounds like he had a glimpse game yesterday.
He's playing more sure of himself, more certain of his (better) decisions. You can see that. He's more involved as well, jumping in on scrums and almost inviting trouble.

He has shown some good offensive plays too like the great feed to Schenn last night.

I said yesterday I haven't seen him off net yet on his shots, which look deadly.

Long way to go but he looks like he belongs on this call up.
I think he just had to stop thinking when he's playing. He came to St Louis to a new team, manager and system. That's a lot to take in. It looks like he's just playing now. Last year Broberg came in and scored a few goals. We got all excited. He didn't score much after the injury, but his defensive game really blossomed.
That's what Pronger told him..."Just play the way you know how" to paraphrase.

Hope he continues on this path.
The problem is who told him otherwise? Just my opinion/guess but I think he was woefully mishandled and led to try to focus on all the things he is not good at out of the gate here.

I personally think the whole thing is a result of Army's number one priority being his own legacy.
I'd say that's a huge stretch but you are certainly entitled to say it.
Which part do you think is a huge stretch?
Your last sentence, almost no matter the context.

On you first para, I'm sure he received all kinds of advice from all kinds of caring people trying to ease his way in here. How he deciphered that advice and coaching and who he listened to pretty much up to him.

I'm just not thinking the worst here, why would I?
I think its pretty obvious they had the kid over thinking and over focused on his own warts and I also think its pretty obvious Army got desperate to fill that hole before he stepped down.

and despite my criticism of the actual trade I do actually like the kid and hope he finds success.
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Re: Any love for Mailloux?

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MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Nov 2025 17:50 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:35 pm
juan good eye wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:33 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:21 pm You'd think a fan base that had to wait a lifetime for a Stanley Cup could wait longer than a month or two for a young defenseman to get acclimated to a new country , team and league.

God help us.
The way this place celebrates mediocrity instead of demanding change it may be another 50 years
Well I'm not celebrating mediocrity I'm just willing to let the kid play, get some experience with a defense partner and give it time.
Saying what you’re saying here and not liking the trade are two very different things. I don’t think I’ve seen a single person say to jettison the guy. I’d say 99% of the fanbase agrees with you so it’s not some monumental position you’re taking here
The social media that these kids are so dependent on was BRUTAL to Mailloux. Hell, with as much as I try to avoid Facebook, so much from Habs fans laughing at Blues fans and Blues fans bagging on LM. Reddit, X, whatever was just as bad from what i understand. That's why Pronger was quoted as to the worst thing for LM's development would be for him to listen to any of it. After Bolduc's hot start, it got bad.
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dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 13:06 pm
Bacchk29 wrote: 30 Nov 2025 11:16 am Upside was supposed to be offensive mainly. Still seeing none. So, no love.
22 years old and 21 nhl games under his belt and you see nothing in terms of offensive potential?

His speed, his shot, his size, his strength?

I can see that potential in his last 4 games.....with point being it's like 50% better than his first round of games.

Pretty sure Monty see's it.
13 games 1 pt -12. Not talking about potential we didn’t need a project for a top 9 forward and he’s a project. One of the many issues this year. Try to be objective.
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