Darren Dreger

[theograce]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

I was never a fan of the krug signing.. i remember well the debates here - you have to protect Krug over Dunn or no fa will ever sign here again.
Skinner update- 4 goals on 8 shots. He made it to the first intermission!

[skilles]

I'm not a fan of this whole concept, this isn't/should be about 1 mans legacy. Which IMO is exactly why we already made one bad trade.

[Bacchk29]

Don’t know what the Oilers can offer for Binner that helps us. RNH but he’s on IR. Partners don’t make sense from out standpoint

[theograce]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

I was never a fan of the krug signing.. i remember well the debates here - you have to protect Krug over Dunn or no fa will ever sign here again.
Skinner update- 4 goals on 8 shots. He made it to the first intermission!

Well yeah the Oilers have issues. They are nowhere close to the team they were last year….goaltending wouldn’t save this team.

[TheJackBurton]

Don’t know what the Oilers can offer for Binner that helps us. RNH but he’s on IR. Partners don’t make sense from out standpoint

2 years ago there were only 4 players on the Oilers that made sense for us.

We got 2 of them already. The other 2 aren't getting traded.

Other than that Edmonton has nothing in its farm system, and nothing of value to us in the NHL.

I don't know if there is a worse trading partner for us out there.

[HighStick]

If we are doing a deal with Ottawa...I want Brady.
Schenn and Kyrou out. Tkachuk + ? coming back.

[Inglewood Jack]

Darren Dreger report. Sounds like we will see some deals soon.

https://x.com/nhl_watcher/status/199342 ... swP-ZGd7DA

It’s nice to see. I’m sure he feels a ton of pressure right now.

It wasn’t long ago that he publicly acknowledged feeling like he has failed the organization.

This stuff adds pressure.

When did he publicly say this?
Link?

When Berube was fired. Pretty common knowledge

Sooo, no link.
Got it.
Thanks.

Are you for real? Do you know how to use the internet? An average person could fact check it in seconds. Why would I provide a sexist, homophobic guy who slurs with anything?

Were you not following the team back then?

I don’t recall him ever saying that he failed the team….

Not just the team. The city…fans…the organization. He was hanging by a thread to be fired. Where were ya? On the corner?

Sorry, it might of happened…but your track record on here makes me believe that he never said it.
No big deal. Enjoy your evening.
I think you would be more believable if you hadn’t lied so often in the past or if you were a Blues fan….but you just are here to troll Blues fans. Again, no big deal. You be you.
I’m done with this…don’t want to ruin the thread for everyone else.
If you come up with the link…I would really appreciate it.

Here is a link. 2 yeats ago

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/if-we ... ube-firing

[BalotelliMassive]

If we are doing a deal with Ottawa...I want Brady.
Schenn and Kyrou out. Tkachuk + ? coming back.

[Old_Goat]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

"A Legend?" Hilarious! Shattenkirk was viewed as the better more reliable D-man over Pietrangelo for years. O'Reilly was the defacto Leader of the Cup-Winning team. Boumeister and Parayko were the two leading D-men during the Championship run. Bortuzzo's and Gunnarson's goals scored in the playoffs in that year were more timely and impactful in winning two critical games than Pietrangelo's in game 7. And Management took Backes' recommendation for whom to name the Captain as he left. Note, I liked Backes as a player, have no dislike for Pietrangelo as a player, but my sense is neither were leaders in the sense of gathering the team together and increasing its bonding. Management blew it by not understanding the real team dynamic and the actual informal leaders when they picked Petro. Lucky O'Reilly showed up.
Think of the Cardinals "The Heat Is On" theme song in 1985. Or Pittsburgh Pirates Willy Stargell led "We Are Family" in 1979...And one of the most iconic examples of an inspiring song for a Championship Team came as a result of 5 players, while the Team Captain was nowhere to be found, Fabbri, Bortuzzo, Steen, Edmundson and Schwartz gathered in a Philly bar and even pumped up another teams fans there with "Gloria." That's a legend!
Theo, you are beyond desperate my man.

[Pierre McGuire]

By the way, watch JR’s interview with Randy K. JR mentions that Minnesota might have interest in Schenn and then Randy wonders how that would work out with Vladi there and then goes on to talk about how Schenn couldn’t stand Tarasenko and actually asked for trade in 2018 before Berube was brought in… lol…that’s some serious hate

[zamadoo]

If we are doing a deal with Ottawa...I want Brady.
Schenn and Kyrou out. Tkachuk + ? coming back.

Perron How about Kyrou, Faulk, Toro, and Joseph for Brady, Perron, Eller, and Jensen.

Then we'll head to EDM and do Parayko, Tucker, and Hofer for Frederic, Skinner, Kulak, Savoie, and Clattenberg (and some picks)

Go to Buffalo and get Byram and Ellis back for Buchnevich, Buchinger, and picks

and we'll finish with Schenn, Binner, Kessel, and picks to TOR for Knies, Carlo, and Woll

Tkachuk-Thomas-Perron
Holloway-Dvorsky-Knies
Neighbours-Suter-Snuggerud
Eller-Frederic-Sunny
Walker/Bjugstad

Broberg-Byram
Fowler-Carlo
Kulak-Jensen
Mailloux



Oh wow, just saw that post Pierre, interesting story I've never heard!

[DoneLurking]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

"A Legend?" Hilarious! Shattenkirk was viewed as the better more reliable D-man over Pietrangelo for years. O'Reilly was the defacto Leader of the Cup-Winning team. Boumeister and Parayko were the two leading D-men during the Championship run. Bortuzzo's and Gunnarson's goals scored in the playoffs in that year were more timely and impactful in winning two critical games than Pietrangelo's in game 7. And Management took Backes' recommendation for whom to name the Captain as he left. Note, I liked Backes as a player, have no dislike for Pietrangelo as a player, but my sense is neither were leaders in the sense of gathering the team together and increasing its bonding. Management blew it by not understanding the real team dynamic and the actual informal leaders when they picked Petro. Lucky O'Reilly showed up.
Think of the Cardinals "The Heat Is On" theme song in 1985. Or Pittsburgh Pirates Willy Stargell led "We Are Family" in 1979...And one of the most iconic examples of an inspiring song for a Championship Team came as a result of 5 players, while the Team Captain was nowhere to be found, Fabbri, Bortuzzo, Steen, Edmundson and Schwartz gathered in a Philly bar and even pumped up another teams fans there with "Gloria." That's a legend!
Theo, you are beyond desperate my man.

This a joke? Because the first bolded is simply not true.

The second bolded requires a citation because otherwise it's unsupported conjecture.

The third bolded suggests that "timely" goals are the only things to consider when evaluating a playoff run.

The fourth bolded suggests that Pietrangelo is only captain because an exiting Backes said he should be, which again, isn't true.

Must be a joke post.

[Old_Goat]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

"A Legend?" Hilarious! Shattenkirk was viewed as the better more reliable D-man over Pietrangelo for years. O'Reilly was the defacto Leader of the Cup-Winning team. Boumeister and Parayko were the two leading D-men during the Championship run. Bortuzzo's and Gunnarson's goals scored in the playoffs in that year were more timely and impactful in winning two critical games than Pietrangelo's in game 7. And Management took Backes' recommendation for whom to name the Captain as he left. Note, I liked Backes as a player, have no dislike for Pietrangelo as a player, but my sense is neither were leaders in the sense of gathering the team together and increasing its bonding. Management blew it by not understanding the real team dynamic and the actual informal leaders when they picked Petro. Lucky O'Reilly showed up.
Think of the Cardinals "The Heat Is On" theme song in 1985. Or Pittsburgh Pirates Willy Stargell led "We Are Family" in 1979...And one of the most iconic examples of an inspiring song for a Championship Team came as a result of 5 players, while the Team Captain was nowhere to be found, Fabbri, Bortuzzo, Steen, Edmundson and Schwartz gathered in a Philly bar and even pumped up another teams fans there with "Gloria." That's a legend!
Theo, you are beyond desperate my man.

This a joke? Because the first bolded is simply not true.

The second bolded requires a citation because otherwise it's unsupported conjecture.

The third bolded suggests that "timely" goals are the only things to consider when evaluating a playoff run.

The fourth bolded suggests that Pietrangelo is only captain because an exiting Backes said he should be, which again, isn't true.

Must be a joke post.

Not a joke at all.
-Shattenkirk was viewed by some as the better player. So for them it's true. Not simply conjecture.
-You don't understand the concept of Informal Leadership. And I am not going to provide you a complimentary lesson in the concept nor any aspect of Leadership or Organizational Development.
-I never said that timely goals are the only things to consider when evaluating a playoff run. Do not twist my words. I was not evaluating the run.
-I did not boldly suggest that Pietrangelo was ONLY captain based upon Backes' recommendation. Again you are twisting my words. That is a fact, it was stated by Management at the time. And do not tell me to go find the quote. You go find it to prove that you have NOT twisted my words. What I boldly stated was that Management took his recommendation, but they blew it by picking him over other members of the team at the time.
Your style and illogical sense of communication, twisted words, etc. are very familiar...What other names/pseudonyms do you use to identify when you post on this site? I've noticed this before when responding to nonsensical postings to "theograce," from which others like you are quick to counterattack with untruths. (I'll bet it's you.)

[DoneLurking]

The comments to the op's links from the oilers fans are kind of funny. Any universe where we trade Binnie and Skinner is part of the return ... I would be done. They are probably getting a more desperate than Leafs fans given the expectations and skinner letting in two of the first five shots he has faced tonite.

Desperate was Krug/faulk/bchnevich. That was desperate and expensive.

The blues aren’t winning a cup in binningtons time left. Why keep him? Nostalgia?

No desperate was your lakehouse buddy giving jack campbell a five year 25 million deal.

desperate is trying to replace a legend like Pietrangelo with 90+ mil on 2 midgets … my man

"A Legend?" Hilarious! Shattenkirk was viewed as the better more reliable D-man over Pietrangelo for years. O'Reilly was the defacto Leader of the Cup-Winning team. Boumeister and Parayko were the two leading D-men during the Championship run. Bortuzzo's and Gunnarson's goals scored in the playoffs in that year were more timely and impactful in winning two critical games than Pietrangelo's in game 7. And Management took Backes' recommendation for whom to name the Captain as he left. Note, I liked Backes as a player, have no dislike for Pietrangelo as a player, but my sense is neither were leaders in the sense of gathering the team together and increasing its bonding. Management blew it by not understanding the real team dynamic and the actual informal leaders when they picked Petro. Lucky O'Reilly showed up.
Think of the Cardinals "The Heat Is On" theme song in 1985. Or Pittsburgh Pirates Willy Stargell led "We Are Family" in 1979...And one of the most iconic examples of an inspiring song for a Championship Team came as a result of 5 players, while the Team Captain was nowhere to be found, Fabbri, Bortuzzo, Steen, Edmundson and Schwartz gathered in a Philly bar and even pumped up another teams fans there with "Gloria." That's a legend!
Theo, you are beyond desperate my man.

This a joke? Because the first bolded is simply not true.

The second bolded requires a citation because otherwise it's unsupported conjecture.

The third bolded suggests that "timely" goals are the only things to consider when evaluating a playoff run.

The fourth bolded suggests that Pietrangelo is only captain because an exiting Backes said he should be, which again, isn't true.

Must be a joke post.

Not a joke at all.
-Shattenkirk was viewed by some as the better player. So for them it's true. Not simply conjecture.
-You don't understand the concept of Informal Leadership. And I am not going to provide you a complimentary lesson in the concept nor any aspect of Leadership or Organizational Development.
-I never said that timely goals are the only things to consider when evaluating a playoff run. Do not twist my words. I was not evaluating the run.
-I did not boldly suggest that Pietrangelo was ONLY captain based upon Backes' recommendation. Again you are twisting my words. That is a fact, it was stated by Management at the time. And do not tell me to go find the quote. You go find it to prove that you have NOT twisted my words. What I boldly stated was that Management took his recommendation, but they blew it by picking him over other members of the team at the time.
Your style and illogical sense of communication, twisted words, etc. are very familiar...What other names/pseudonyms do you use to identify when you post on this site? I've noticed this before when responding to nonsensical postings to "theograce," from which others like you are quick to counterattack with untruths. (I'll bet it's you.)

Show me anything from anyone who isn’t a forum fan that claims Shattenkirk was at any point in his career a better player than Pietrangelo. We can start there.

[Bubble4427]

Darren Dreger report. Sounds like we will see some deals soon.

https://x.com/nhl_watcher/status/199342 ... swP-ZGd7DA

It’s nice to see. I’m sure he feels a ton of pressure right now.

It wasn’t long ago that he publicly acknowledged feeling like he has failed the organization.

This stuff adds pressure.

When did he publicly say this?
Link?

When Berube was fired. Pretty common knowledge

Sooo, no link.
Got it.
Thanks.

Are you for real? Do you know how to use the internet? An average person could fact check it in seconds. Why would I provide a sexist, homophobic guy who slurs with anything?

Were you not following the team back then?

I don’t recall him ever saying that he failed the team….

Not just the team. The city…fans…the organization. He was hanging by a thread to be fired. Where were ya? On the corner?

Sorry, it might of happened…but your track record on here makes me believe that he never said it.
No big deal. Enjoy your evening.
I think you would be more believable if you hadn’t lied so often in the past or if you were a Blues fan….but you just are here to troll Blues fans. Again, no big deal. You be you.
I’m done with this…don’t want to ruin the thread for everyone else.
If you come up with the link…I would really appreciate it.

Here is a link. 2 yeats ago

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/if-we ... ube-firing

I appreciate the link....but no where do I see that Armstrong said that "he failed the team, the organization, the fans and the city".
Kinda the definition of hyperbole don't you think?