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EDM / DAL

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EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
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Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
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Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 25 Nov 2025 22:01 pm
Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
I'd DEFINITELY take Samuel Montembeault over Stuart Skinner..... plus Montreal has more to offer prospects wise (Owen Beck would be lovely). and it sounds with the Texier addition means Joshua Roy may be shown the door. I wouldn't mind seeing us gamble on him as a throw in.
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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 25 Nov 2025 22:01 pm
Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
Yeah Kypreos running over goalers on purpose must have rattled his brain because that's not a deal Army does in 100 years.
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Yikes. Final of 8-3.

Hard to question a team that has been to the finals 2 years in a row but EDM’s top heavy roster just seems to be holding them back. Skinner and Pickard just aren’t going to get it done.

I was listening to the Athletic hockey podcast yesterday and one of the talking heads was speculating (emphasis on SPECULATING) that he could see EDM going after Saros. That’d be interesting for all parties.
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Skinner is either great or absolutely dog s--- there is no between with him.
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Interesting comment on Fan960 in Calgary. Wondering whether the team is playing to win the Cup for the team or for Connor...

I think the playing of Drai and McJesus so much (1:45 of every penalty, the last two minutes of a game) is coming home to roost and retarded the development of the younger players on the team.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Nov 2025 07:15 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 25 Nov 2025 22:01 pm
Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
Yeah Kypreos running over goalers on purpose must have rattled his brain because that's not a deal Army does in 100 years.

On the surface, I totally agree with you, Jack…..and in general, I think Kypreos is an idiot. But the interesting thing is that Hofer and Skinner were actually a goalie tandem in juniors. Hofer is younger and was Skinner’s backup. So if Skinner is nothing but a throw in on a bigger trade, I could see it happening. As foolsgold says, Skinner actually CAN be great at times, so maybe he can be salvaged. He’s on the last year of his contract, so not much risk in taking a look. But the thing that makes a Binnington trade to Edmonton more ridiculous……I can see Binnington approving a trade to Toronto, but Edmonton? Can’t see it happening. But if by chance he would, I’d have to imagine Bowman is desperate, and we already know he’s pretty clueless, so I would imagine we could get a good package in return. Edmonton doesn’t have a ton of trade capital, but they do have a 2027 1st rounder, Matt Savoie and Isaac Howard.

I’d say there is about a 2% chance of a Binnington trade to Edmonton happening, but it probably isn’t 0%.
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Frank Underwood wrote: 26 Nov 2025 09:48 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Nov 2025 07:15 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 25 Nov 2025 22:01 pm
Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
Yeah Kypreos running over goalers on purpose must have rattled his brain because that's not a deal Army does in 100 years.

On the surface, I totally agree with you, Jack…..and in general, I think Kypreos is an idiot. But the interesting thing is that Hofer and Skinner were actually a goalie tandem in juniors. Hofer is younger and was Skinner’s backup. So if Skinner is nothing but a throw in on a bigger trade, I could see it happening. As foolsgold says, Skinner actually CAN be great at times, so maybe he can be salvaged. He’s on the last year of his contract, so not much risk in taking a look. But the thing that makes a Binnington trade to Edmonton more ridiculous……I can see Binnington approving a trade to Toronto, but Edmonton? Can’t see it happening. But if by chance he would, I’d have to imagine Bowman is desperate, and we already know he’s pretty clueless, so I would imagine we could get a good package in return. Edmonton doesn’t have a ton of trade capital, but they do have a 2027 1st rounder, Matt Savoie and Isaac Howard.

I’d say there is about a 2% chance of a Binnington trade to Edmonton happening, but it probably isn’t 0%.
You are correct Frank there is never a 0% for any trade. As they say if Wayne Gretzky can be traded anyone can be traded.

I just don't see us a trading partner with Edmonton as Skinner has shown he is just not good enough. Yes he's been to 2 consecutive SCF so you can't take that away from him, but that has more to do with a weak Pacific division and a ridiculously strong central division and way less to do with him stealing a series here or there. Teams from the central just beat the (bleep) out of each other while the ones from the Pacific have overall just been pretty average. That doesn't mean he can't get hot for some games here and there, he's proven he can, but he's not nearly consistent enough. I don't want anything to do with him, and if I'm Army I'm certainly not trading one of my best assets to Edmonton for a lesser player.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Frank Underwood wrote: 26 Nov 2025 09:48 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Nov 2025 07:15 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 25 Nov 2025 22:01 pm
Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
Yeah Kypreos running over goalers on purpose must have rattled his brain because that's not a deal Army does in 100 years.

On the surface, I totally agree with you, Jack…..and in general, I think Kypreos is an idiot. But the interesting thing is that Hofer and Skinner were actually a goalie tandem in juniors. Hofer is younger and was Skinner’s backup. So if Skinner is nothing but a throw in on a bigger trade, I could see it happening. As foolsgold says, Skinner actually CAN be great at times, so maybe he can be salvaged. He’s on the last year of his contract, so not much risk in taking a look. But the thing that makes a Binnington trade to Edmonton more ridiculous……I can see Binnington approving a trade to Toronto, but Edmonton? Can’t see it happening. But if by chance he would, I’d have to imagine Bowman is desperate, and we already know he’s pretty clueless, so I would imagine we could get a good package in return. Edmonton doesn’t have a ton of trade capital, but they do have a 2027 1st rounder, Matt Savoie and Isaac Howard.

I’d say there is about a 2% chance of a Binnington trade to Edmonton happening, but it probably isn’t 0%.
You are correct Frank there is never a 0% for any trade. As they say if Wayne Gretzky can be traded anyone can be traded.

I just don't see us a trading partner with Edmonton as Skinner has shown he is just not good enough. Yes he's been to 2 consecutive SCF so you can't take that away from him, but that has more to do with a weak Pacific division and a ridiculously strong central division and way less to do with him stealing a series here or there. Teams from the central just beat the (bleep) out of each other while the ones from the Pacific have overall just been pretty average. That doesn't mean he can't get hot for some games here and there, he's proven he can, but he's not nearly consistent enough. I don't want anything to do with him, and if I'm Army I'm certainly not trading one of my best assets to Edmonton for a lesser player.
And if we’re trading Binner to EDM I want young up and comers, guys who are still a couple of seasons away from hitting their peak. Skinner can kick rocks. I’d rather role with Hofer and let him sink or swim.
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Backesdraft wrote: 26 Nov 2025 12:40 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Frank Underwood wrote: 26 Nov 2025 09:48 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Nov 2025 07:15 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 25 Nov 2025 22:01 pm
Aesa wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:49 pm
Backesdraft wrote: 25 Nov 2025 21:43 pm EDM getting blown off the ice through 2. Oil have to do something about that goaltending.
Score? Who's in net tonight?
Skinner in the first,- pulled after letting in 4 goals on 8 shots and then Pickard who let in another 2. According to Kypreos, binnington is going to the oil with skinner as part of the return. If steen lets armey do that, he should be out the door with armey as well. Not sure whose goalers are worse edmonton or montreal?
Yeah Kypreos running over goalers on purpose must have rattled his brain because that's not a deal Army does in 100 years.

On the surface, I totally agree with you, Jack…..and in general, I think Kypreos is an idiot. But the interesting thing is that Hofer and Skinner were actually a goalie tandem in juniors. Hofer is younger and was Skinner’s backup. So if Skinner is nothing but a throw in on a bigger trade, I could see it happening. As foolsgold says, Skinner actually CAN be great at times, so maybe he can be salvaged. He’s on the last year of his contract, so not much risk in taking a look. But the thing that makes a Binnington trade to Edmonton more ridiculous……I can see Binnington approving a trade to Toronto, but Edmonton? Can’t see it happening. But if by chance he would, I’d have to imagine Bowman is desperate, and we already know he’s pretty clueless, so I would imagine we could get a good package in return. Edmonton doesn’t have a ton of trade capital, but they do have a 2027 1st rounder, Matt Savoie and Isaac Howard.

I’d say there is about a 2% chance of a Binnington trade to Edmonton happening, but it probably isn’t 0%.
You are correct Frank there is never a 0% for any trade. As they say if Wayne Gretzky can be traded anyone can be traded.

I just don't see us a trading partner with Edmonton as Skinner has shown he is just not good enough. Yes he's been to 2 consecutive SCF so you can't take that away from him, but that has more to do with a weak Pacific division and a ridiculously strong central division and way less to do with him stealing a series here or there. Teams from the central just beat the (bleep) out of each other while the ones from the Pacific have overall just been pretty average. That doesn't mean he can't get hot for some games here and there, he's proven he can, but he's not nearly consistent enough. I don't want anything to do with him, and if I'm Army I'm certainly not trading one of my best assets to Edmonton for a lesser player.
And if we’re trading Binner to EDM I want young up and comers, guys who are still a couple of seasons away from hitting their peak. Skinner can kick rocks. I’d rather role with Hofer and let him sink or swim.
That would be the ideal scenario, but they don't even have those.
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If they traded Binnington to Edmonton, Skinner is nothing but a throw in. The Blues would have to be fine with Hofer being the #!. But Edmonton will obviously want to get rid of Skinner, so we would have to take him back. But since he is in the last year of his contract, that’s not a big deal. But Edmonton would have to give up at least one of their top two prospects and picks. The good news is that Edmonton is probably the most desperate team in the NHL for a goalie, so I would think Binnington’s value would be much higher if you are trading with the Oilers than it would be with any other team. Leafs would be next on the list, though.
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Frank Underwood wrote: 26 Nov 2025 12:57 pm If they traded Binnington to Edmonton, Skinner is nothing but a throw in. The Blues would have to be fine with Hofer being the #!. But Edmonton will obviously want to get rid of Skinner, so we would have to take him back. But since he is in the last year of his contract, that’s not a big deal. But Edmonton would have to give up at least one of their top two prospects and picks. The good news is that Edmonton is probably the most desperate team in the NHL for a goalie, so I would think Binnington’s value would be much higher if you are trading with the Oilers than it would be with any other team. Leafs would be next on the list, though.
I rather Pickard come back plus 2 1st, and Savioe
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Zizzle1297 wrote: 26 Nov 2025 13:39 pm
Frank Underwood wrote: 26 Nov 2025 12:57 pm If they traded Binnington to Edmonton, Skinner is nothing but a throw in. The Blues would have to be fine with Hofer being the #!. But Edmonton will obviously want to get rid of Skinner, so we would have to take him back. But since he is in the last year of his contract, that’s not a big deal. But Edmonton would have to give up at least one of their top two prospects and picks. The good news is that Edmonton is probably the most desperate team in the NHL for a goalie, so I would think Binnington’s value would be much higher if you are trading with the Oilers than it would be with any other team. Leafs would be next on the list, though.
I rather Pickard come back plus 2 1st, and Savioe
I just don’t even think Savoie is worth it. He’s more of what they already have. The Blues need size, either on the back end or up front. The Blues aren’t lacking in 5’10-6’ guys with offensive potential, they need guys that will move the needle. I would hold on to Binnington until I get a return that fills a need. I don’t think Edmonton has what the Blues need.
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The only way I see the Blues trading with Edmonton is if it's a 3-way deal. Even then, I don't know who would want any of Edmonton's pieces.

And Toronto is in free fall. Unless they straighten up that ship, they could also being dealing...probably not until the deadline though.
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