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Sonny Gray to the Redsox
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
I watched video tooramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:38 amWatching vid on Clarke love seeing his 'crossfire ' motion and how he can throw it outside low and left hitter was swinging at air .
This team could have quite the lefty pitchers in a couple years ... Libby, Doyle, and Clarke With Doyle and Clark very high velocity types
If this kid makes it up here, then he and Doyle are going to be quite a slinging twosome (think J. Hader type slinger w/huge K0's!).
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Quinn Mathews, Cooper Hjerpe & Ixan Henderson all say hello.ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:38 amWatching vid on Clarke love seeing his 'crossfire ' motion and how he can throw it outside low and left hitter was swinging at air .
This team could have quite the lefty pitchers in a couple years ... Libby, Doyle, and Clarke With Doyle and Clark very high velocity types
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
I little starter fluid last night got the job done……Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:43 amSo you are a fan today?Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 amAnd I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 amFrom what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 amaround $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 amDitto
We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!
So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.
I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...![]()
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:41 amLHP is our strength and it just got deeper....that's where we should trade from....not catcher (not yet, at least)ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:38 amWatching vid on Clarke love seeing his 'crossfire ' motion and how he can throw it outside low and left hitter was swinging at air .
This team could have quite the lefty pitchers in a couple years ... Libby, Doyle, and Clarke With Doyle and Clark very high velocity types
Yeah I wonder if Matthews could be on the move. Perhaps even packaged with Donny to get an absolute stud of a young player or with Arenado to get someone to take his salary. Not that adding Clarke has anything to do with it. But maybe this made such a thought process easier
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
SLOOOOOOOO----MOOOOOOO----IS----NOOOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOOGoldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 amAnd I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 amFrom what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 amaround $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 amDitto
We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!
So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.
I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...![]()
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Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”
Now it's "Bloom" that rhymes with "ZOOM"!
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
IIRC, he previously was scheduled to make $35mm this year with a club option for 2027 and $5mm buyout. Now it's $31mm in 2026, a mutual option, and a $10mm buyout.craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:43 amoh...okay. What's extra? The $1million? I'm not up on this, but is that the standard NTC Waive fee? did the Buyout increase?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:39 amRosenthal reporting they agreed to rework Gray's contract to a 1 year, $31mm salary plus a mutual option or a $10mm buyout.craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 amaround $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 amDitto
We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!
I do wish Gray the best, I liked his stay here...unfortunately we didn't have much of a supporting cast for him
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Hopefully MO is watching in his Red Rockerrockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:46 amSLOOOOOOOO----MOOOOOOO----IS----NOOOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOOGoldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 amAnd I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 amFrom what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 amaround $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 amDitto
We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!
So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.
I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...![]()
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Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”![]()
Now it's "Bloom" that rhymes with "ZOOM"!
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
OH BOY
ANOTHER BONUS
THIS LIKELY MEANS
NO PALLANTE in the 2026 ROTATION!
(Especially if Bloom lands another starter when he deals Donny)
ANOTHER BONUS
THIS LIKELY MEANS
NO PALLANTE in the 2026 ROTATION!
(Especially if Bloom lands another starter when he deals Donny)
Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
was a great trade because at this point Gray is superfluous for the cards...they save some money and get 2 young pitchers one with very good upside potentially
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Fitts pitched 45 MLB innings with a 5 ERA and 1.3 WHIP last year. What makes you think he will pitch better than Gray?
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
That's a net $15M savings, sure hope Dewitt let's Bloom reinvest it!82birds wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:25 am20MM per MLBTRrockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 amDitto
We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox
Chaim "Zoom Zoom" Bloomrockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:46 amSLOOOOOOOO----MOOOOOOO----IS----NOOOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOOGoldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 amAnd I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 amFrom what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 amaround $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 amDitto
We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!
So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.
I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...![]()
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Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”![]()
Now it's "Bloom" that rhymes with "ZOOM"!