Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:53 am
Goldfan wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:49 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:48 am
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:45 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:39 am
brock118 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:36 am So much for geographic location for Sonny I guess.
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Stirring the pot and a Gray trade all within about 12hrs….might take the rest of Thanksgiving off
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Goldfan wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:53 am
Cusecards wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:52 am All I can say is it’s about time that Bloom did SOMETHING!!!!!
His tenure to date has been terrible!
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Waiting to see how much cash was sent to Boston.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Cards sent Red Sox $20 million in the deal, per what I'm seeing on X.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Good deal


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Sonny Gray has agreed to waive no-trade clause for a trade to Boston Red Sox, per source, and the deal is happening. Details of the agreement -- adjusting contract, players returning -- are being finalized by both teams.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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All-in-all, it sounds like the Cardinals get the kind of ML-ready, higher floor/if lower ceiling prospect (Fitts) that I thought they would get for Gray, and a somewhat lower floor/higher ceiling prospect (Clarke) who is maybe a couple of years away.

Hopefully the Cardinals pitcher development system is ready to help Clarke develop a third pitch and get him the weapons he needs to be a middle-to-front of rotation SP in the majors by the end of 2027/ST 2028.

I like it overall.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Clarke is simultaneously a good prospect and a lottery ticket type guy. Huge ceiling but I could see him never seeing the majors. Honestly I think it's a great trade.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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No irony that blooms first deal is with Boston.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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brock118 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:36 am So much for geographic location for Sonny I guess.
you beat me to it
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Nice move by Rock’s Boner…

Hopefully, more to follow….
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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zoiks wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:52 am Clarke has had more major arm injuries and trouble staying healthy than even Tink Hence. He’s never reached 40 IP in a minor league season. He’s had huge K/9 numbers though, so he’s the typical boom or bust prospect teams get back in a salary dump trade.
Yeah, I could definitely see him as a not-small chance of not being a starter and being a reliever instead. But...every team needs a shut-down lefty in the late innings. I'd say it's still a good-get.

I'm intrigued by Fitts. Big dude, topped out at 99. Good fastball. Has a reputation as a competitor. I'm not saying he's going to be an ace, but I like this guy.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 10:58 am All-in-all, it sounds like the Cardinals get the kind of ML-ready, higher floor/if lower ceiling prospect (Fitts) that I thought they would get for Gray, and a somewhat lower floor/higher ceiling prospect (Clarke) who is maybe a couple of years away.

I like it overall.
On the surface appears to be an outstanding potential return + salary relief!

Just the kind of prospect I was hoping for when Bloom dealt Gray.

Now lets get another one, maybe even a major league starter w/years of control left, for Donny.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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Will the Cardinals be hiring Rusty Kuntz as a coach now that they’ve acquired Dick Fitts in this trade?
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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zoiks wrote: 25 Nov 2025 11:01 am Will the Cardinals be hiring Rusty Kuntz as a coach now that they’ve acquired Dick Fitts in this trade?
Deep down in ya.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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FWIW - BTV grades this as 23.7 in value to the Cardinals vs. 10.6 in value (with the $20M thrown in) to Boston.
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Re: Sonny Gray to the Redsox

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 25 Nov 2025 11:06 am FWIW - BTV grades this as 23.7 in value to the Cardinals vs. 10.6 in value (with the $20M thrown in) to Boston.
Well I certainly like that return!
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