Angels rated best pick for Arenado

[rockondlouie]

Just no on Kikuchi, or any other bad contract. We don't have to take on a bad contract to move him. If we have to have a bad contract, let's just keep the decent third baseman.

^^^THIS^^^

[Cusecards]

Source: MLB article by Mike Petriello

Petriello ranks his Top 7 landing spots for Nolan Arenado
https://www.mlb.com/news/counting-down- ... an-arenado

After grouping the other 29 teams in various categories , Petriello narrows his choices of best 7 landing spots

No. 1 Angels

1) Angels
This might be it. This might be the spot. The Angels, 72-90 last year and having missed the playoffs for the past 11 seasons, might not be an obvious landing spot for a player hoping to find a contender. But they continue to operate as though they are, and the addition of Grayson Rodriguez surely opened some eyes across the sport. With Anthony Rendon completely out of the mix, the Angels had baseball’s weakest third base situation in 2025, a last-place ranking they’re projected to repeat in 2026. Although Arenado grew up in Southern California as a Dodgers fan, he attended high school in Lake Forest, which is far closer to Angel Stadium than it is Dodger Stadium. If he wants to get back home, he’ll never have a better chance than this.

His 7th thru 2nd were in descending order: 7. Athletics 6. Pirates 5. Phillies 4 TIgers 3. Red Sox 2. D'Backs

Looks like Petriello has also been reading from and learning from my posts, as everyone here does.
Months ago, I alone first correctly analyzed and explained that AZ was the most likely landing spot for N/A.
All here disagreed.
Initially.
Then several began to come around.
It is very, very clear - and has been for some time - that given all known factors, AZ is the most probable landing spot for N/A.
And unlike the last time STL traded him, this time he will not refuse to report.

And unlike the last time STL traded him, this time he will not refuse to report.

Fequent times you have mentioned your contention that Arenado was 'traded' and refused to report.

This is the MLB policy on players refusing to report after being traded.

If an MLB player traded fails to report to the new team, they face penalties including being placed on the disqualified list, which means they are not paid and do not earn service time. The player also violates their contract, which could result in the new team seeking legal recourse or potentially voiding the trade. Players generally have 72 hours to report after a trade, but refusing to report can have severe financial and contractual consequences.

I have to admit.....CT would be worse off if ME-ville the Sideshow Clown wasn’t posting.
The laughs he provides are classic stuff.
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[okcardfan]

Agree 100% with Talkin' and Ozzie's take, keep Arenado if otherwise you'd have to take on another bad contract.

You know he's a good guy, at least, and also a superior fielder and not a strikeout king like Gorman or Walker.

Don't forget he was apparently injured during the season but still insisted on playing hurt anyway. Too earnest.

If he's fully healthy he might be an average hitter, maybe slightly above that, maybe clearly above that, and presumably will remain the superior fielder he's always been, with a tiny slippage that would make him still the best fielder at 3B on the team, and probably by quite a bit.

Would I pay $10M or $20M to trade him for some other team's $10M or $20M salary dump? Duh, no. I'd do it for a rookie MLB or high MiLB RH OFer or RH starting pitcher in the trading partner's top 10 prospects, plus a guy in rookie ball with some chance of making the big leagues for even a cup of coffee.

No salary dump deal. Otherwise, keep Arenado. (For those of you worried, doing so doesn't prevent ownership from spending money on other good players too, for goodness sake).

[Talkin' Baseball]

Agree 100% with Talkin' and Ozzie's take, keep Arenado if otherwise you'd have to take on another bad contract.

You know he's a good guy, at least, and also a superior fielder and not a strikeout king like Gorman or Walker.

Don't forget he was apparently injured during the season but still insisted on playing hurt anyway. Too earnest.

If he's fully healthy he might be an average hitter, maybe slightly above that, maybe clearly above that, and presumably will remain the superior fielder he's always been, with a tiny slippage that would make him still the best fielder at 3B on the team, and probably by quite a bit.

Would I pay $10M or $20M to trade him for some other team's $10M or $20M salary dump? Duh, no. I'd do it for a rookie MLB or high MiLB RH OFer or RH starting pitcher in the trading partner's top 10 prospects, plus a guy in rookie ball with some chance of making the big leagues for even a cup of coffee.

No salary dump deal. Otherwise, keep Arenado. (For those of you worried, doing so doesn't prevent ownership from spending money on other good players too, for goodness sake).

To be clear, I 100% think they should trade Arenado, even if it's a salary dump. I just think if you absorb enough salary there should be no need to take back a bad contract.

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Agree 100% with Talkin' and Ozzie's take, keep Arenado if otherwise you'd have to take on another bad contract.

You know he's a good guy, at least, and also a superior fielder and not a strikeout king like Gorman or Walker.

Don't forget he was apparently injured during the season but still insisted on playing hurt anyway. Too earnest.

If he's fully healthy he might be an average hitter, maybe slightly above that, maybe clearly above that, and presumably will remain the superior fielder he's always been, with a tiny slippage that would make him still the best fielder at 3B on the team, and probably by quite a bit.

Would I pay $10M or $20M to trade him for some other team's $10M or $20M salary dump? Duh, no. I'd do it for a rookie MLB or high MiLB RH OFer or RH starting pitcher in the trading partner's top 10 prospects, plus a guy in rookie ball with some chance of making the big leagues for even a cup of coffee.

No salary dump deal. Otherwise, keep Arenado. (For those of you worried, doing so doesn't prevent ownership from spending money on other good players too, for goodness sake).

Get real. He does not fit in a reset environment. He needs to be traded. He is not part of the future. Or even the present.

[brock118]

I believe one of the pundits said he turned down a trade to the Angels last year. I don't see the Angels going after him or him wanting to go to a team going nowhere. He can just stay if he wants that.

[Talkin' Baseball]

I believe one of the pundits said he turned down a trade to the Angels last year. I don't see the Angels going after him or him wanting to go to a team going nowhere. He can just stay if he wants that.

Maybe his role for the upcoming season has been clearly communicated to him, and perhaps that influences his choices.

[brock118]

I believe one of the pundits said he turned down a trade to the Angels last year. I don't see the Angels going after him or him wanting to go to a team going nowhere. He can just stay if he wants that.

Maybe his role for the upcoming season has been clearly communicated to him, and perhaps that influences his choices.

It's been widely reported that Arenado and management are on the same page. But I don't see him wanting to go to a team that is not playoff caliber.

[Bomber1]

Agree 100% with Talkin' and Ozzie's take, keep Arenado if otherwise you'd have to take on another bad contract.

You know he's a good guy, at least, and also a superior fielder and not a strikeout king like Gorman or Walker.

Don't forget he was apparently injured during the season but still insisted on playing hurt anyway. Too earnest.

If he's fully healthy he might be an average hitter, maybe slightly above that, maybe clearly above that, and presumably will remain the superior fielder he's always been, with a tiny slippage that would make him still the best fielder at 3B on the team, and probably by quite a bit.

Would I pay $10M or $20M to trade him for some other team's $10M or $20M salary dump? Duh, no. I'd do it for a rookie MLB or high MiLB RH OFer or RH starting pitcher in the trading partner's top 10 prospects, plus a guy in rookie ball with some chance of making the big leagues for even a cup of coffee.

No salary dump deal. Otherwise, keep Arenado. (For those of you worried, doing so doesn't prevent ownership from spending money on other good players too, for goodness sake).

Get real. He does not fit in a reset environment. He needs to be traded. He is not part of the future. Or even the present.

One could certainly argue that Gorman isn’t part of the present or the future either.

If they trade Donovan and Arenado then Gorman is most likely the 3B. Sorry but puke. He sucks.

[ramfandan]

I believe one of the pundits said he turned down a trade to the Angels last year. I don't see the Angels going after him or him wanting to go to a team going nowhere. He can just stay if he wants that.

Maybe his role for the upcoming season has been clearly communicated to him, and perhaps that influences his choices.

It's been widely reported that Arenado and management are on the same page. But I don't see him wanting to go to a team that is not playoff caliber.

I felt the say way but in this instance I could see him accepting a trade to a team on the West Coast . That is his homebase and heck he only has a couple playing years remaining before he steps aside. So for me , it would be much easier to finish out the last two years at a geographic location closer to home . He is NOT going to some team where he would be spending the next 5 or 6 years there (as was the case when he went from Colorado to St. Louis ). This is his final move and I sure think for just a couple years at most.

[renostl]

Agree 100% with Talkin' and Ozzie's take, keep Arenado if otherwise you'd have to take on another bad contract.

You know he's a good guy, at least, and also a superior fielder and not a strikeout king like Gorman or Walker.

Don't forget he was apparently injured during the season but still insisted on playing hurt anyway. Too earnest.

If he's fully healthy he might be an average hitter, maybe slightly above that, maybe clearly above that, and presumably will remain the superior fielder he's always been, with a tiny slippage that would make him still the best fielder at 3B on the team, and probably by quite a bit.

Would I pay $10M or $20M to trade him for some other team's $10M or $20M salary dump? Duh, no. I'd do it for a rookie MLB or high MiLB RH OFer or RH starting pitcher in the trading partner's top 10 prospects, plus a guy in rookie ball with some chance of making the big leagues for even a cup of coffee.

No salary dump deal. Otherwise, keep Arenado. (For those of you worried, doing so doesn't prevent ownership from spending money on other good players too, for goodness sake).

It might depend on the salary dump.
How much money is it?
Is he a legit bounce back candidate? A
position of higher need?

If we're ok with sending half of his owed money with him thus saving just $20 million
over 2 seasons. What's so terrible about paying ZERO and a player even a over paid
but fills a need or ha the potential to be flipped if he bounces back?

We also should not forget that he does not want to stay. True he didn't demand a trade like he did
in CO. He learned from that and is doing it differently by have first a trade list and now an expanded
trade list and has now twice had his agent searching for a match.

[okcardfan]

Agree 100% with Talkin' and Ozzie's take, keep Arenado if otherwise you'd have to take on another bad contract.

You know he's a good guy, at least, and also a superior fielder and not a strikeout king like Gorman or Walker.

Don't forget he was apparently injured during the season but still insisted on playing hurt anyway. Too earnest.

If he's fully healthy he might be an average hitter, maybe slightly above that, maybe clearly above that, and presumably will remain the superior fielder he's always been, with a tiny slippage that would make him still the best fielder at 3B on the team, and probably by quite a bit.

Would I pay $10M or $20M to trade him for some other team's $10M or $20M salary dump? Duh, no. I'd do it for a rookie MLB or high MiLB RH OFer or RH starting pitcher in the trading partner's top 10 prospects, plus a guy in rookie ball with some chance of making the big leagues for even a cup of coffee.

No salary dump deal. Otherwise, keep Arenado. (For those of you worried, doing so doesn't prevent ownership from spending money on other good players too, for goodness sake).

To be clear, I 100% think they should trade Arenado, even if it's a salary dump. I just think if you absorb enough salary there should be no need to take back a bad contract.

I agree with that. By the term salary dump I meant the trading partner sending the Cards a salary dump guy. I know that Arenado trade would be a salary dump.

[renostl]

I believe one of the pundits said he turned down a trade to the Angels last year. I don't see the Angels going after him or him wanting to go to a team going nowhere. He can just stay if he wants that.

Maybe his role for the upcoming season has been clearly communicated to him, and perhaps that influences his choices.

It's been widely reported that Arenado and management are on the same page. But I don't see him wanting to go to a team that is not playoff caliber.

I felt the say way but in this instance I could see him accepting a trade to a team on the West Coast . That is his homebase and heck he only has a couple playing years remaining before he steps aside. So for me , it would be much easier to finish out the last two years at a geographic location closer to home . He is NOT going to some team where he would be spending the next 5 or 6 years there (as was the case when he went from Colorado to St. Louis ). This is his final move and I sure think for just a couple years at most.

There are also career landmark counting statistics for the player IF a team
comes calling that isn't that much more probable to win than the Cardinals.
Without the shortened 2020 season he gets 20-25 more HR's in Coors.
Currently he's 47 HR's away from 400. A slam dunk HOF number for him.
He'll need a better park than Busch and playing time that both LA and AZ might provide.

[renostl]

What do they have that the Cards want? Short sighted article

I could see him going there since his hitting academy is only 10 min away too.

I can see Kikuchi coming back. He had a good year but I think his contract is basically breakeven or a bit underwater, so we would still have to eat salary and take on Kikuchi’s full salary.

Just no on Kikuchi, or any other bad contract. We don't have to take on a bad contract to move him. If we have to have a bad contract, let's just keep the decent third baseman.

The Kikuchi suggestion could cause concern.
He a Cardinals need and IF the Cards negotiated that LAA had to send money instead
of the Cards doing it, watch out. 175 innings with a 4 era for the same or less than what NA is owed.

[ecleme22]

What do they have that the Cards want? Short sighted article

I could see him going there since his hitting academy is only 10 min away too.

I can see Kikuchi coming back. He had a good year but I think his contract is basically breakeven or a bit underwater, so we would still have to eat salary and take on Kikuchi’s full salary.

Just no on Kikuchi, or any other bad contract. We don't have to take on a bad contract to move him. If we have to have a bad contract, let's just keep the decent third baseman.

Depends.

Maybe you trade NA for Nick Castellanos. With this trade, you are saving money while betting NC has a better 2026 rebound than NA—-thus being more flippable…

[Talkin' Baseball]

What do they have that the Cards want? Short sighted article

I could see him going there since his hitting academy is only 10 min away too.

I can see Kikuchi coming back. He had a good year but I think his contract is basically breakeven or a bit underwater, so we would still have to eat salary and take on Kikuchi’s full salary.

Just no on Kikuchi, or any other bad contract. We don't have to take on a bad contract to move him. If we have to have a bad contract, let's just keep the decent third baseman.

Depends.

Maybe you trade NA for Nick Castellanos. With this trade, you are saving money while betting NC has a better 2026 rebound than NA—-thus being more flippable…

I am against trading Arenado for any underwater contract. It is to me, the worst possible outcome of the Arenado situation.