Drink Offense, and college football nation see it.

[Rantz]

I have never ever heard a commentator comment on Mizzou’s offense like they did yesterday. He said it on more than 3 times and even said Mizzou offense is non existent. He talked bad about Mizzous offense but said it nicely. It was an embarrassing game on national tv. And then during half time , Buggar McFarland talked a little about Mizzous offense and said Mizzou can’t win scoring only field goals. I have a buddy who lives in Denver text me every week saying we have a great team, but the play calling is horrible.

A few games ago a player said Vandy knew Mizzous plays. That raised a few eyebrows around college football nation. After watching closely even before that statement was made I was saying teams knew exactly what Mizzou was going to do. If it wasn’t obvious to passionate Mizzou fans , that only means you haven’t been paying attention. It’s not that teams are stealing Mizzous plays, it that defensive coordinators knew what Mizzou was going to do because they saw we have a week QB position and a very strong run game. They saw Drink and Moore dialing up run play after run play because they had a stud in Hardy. So how do you stop that? Stack the box. They saw Mizzou wasn’t creative enough to beat them if they stopped the run. What Drink had been doing was great against mid major and weak SEC teams, but the big boys you have to keep them honest, but Drink and Moore can’t seem to get it!

If we all see it, football commentators see it, opposing coaches see it, why can’t Drink and Moore see it? And if Tney do, they sure aren’t coaching like it. Are they really not creative enough? Drink at the beginning was billed as an offensive guru! I’m sure Mizzou donors and board of curators see it. Why can’t Drink and Moore see it? How long before some type of action is taken to correct it? I mean Mizzou is right there…at the door just waiting to go in, but we just can’t get over the threshold. I hope some one in the higher pay grade makes a move to fix the situation…I’d had to lose Drink and his recruiting, so he needs to go out and get a big time coordinator and let him call plays and Drink needs to stay out of it.

[winonsports]

I'm glad you enjoyed a Saturday night of flipping around to all the post game shows and constantly hitting pause and reverse, so you could joyously start a thread to badger the football program.

[rezero]

I am not sure teams know the plays but they definite know the tendencies.

For example, when Mizzou has a TE on one side and send them in motion slowly to the other side right before the snap, they always run that direction. It was mentioned during the Vandy game and sure enough they do that same play over and over with different TEs and different sides, but they always send the TE across as the seal block. A&M picked up on it and knew exactly where the ball was going when the TE did that. We have other plays in the arsenal off the formation like one where they boot leg the QB to the TE side and throw to him in the flat, but that seems to be lost in the playbook somewhere.

Likewise when we do WR stacked on one side, and send the third WR across towards the stack, it is always a bubble screen to that side. They use the motion to get a second blocker to that WR side, but teams seem to know that play and the LB and S on that side now go with the third WR (even when they are in zone) so they in effect get 4 defenders in that area. We used to have a variant of that play where instead of the bubble screen near the side line, we would instead have that WR in motion stop and it would be a screen at the line scrimmage. I think that variant scored us a TE against kU.

Maybe Moore needs a deeper playbook and pick a new variety of game day plays, but now teams are locked into what we want to do.

[bgwinn01]

I am not sure teams know the plays but they definite know the tendencies.

For example, when Mizzou has a TE on one side and send them in motion slowly to the other side right before the snap, they always run that direction. It was mentioned during the Vandy game and sure enough they do that same play over and over with different TEs and different sides, but they always send the TE across as the seal block. A&M picked up on it and knew exactly where the ball was going when the TE did that. We have other plays in the arsenal off the formation like one where they boot leg the QB to the TE side and throw to him in the flat, but that seems to be lost in the playbook somewhere.

Likewise when we do WR stacked on one side, and send the third WR across towards the stack, it is always a bubble screen to that side. They use the motion to get a second blocker to that WR side, but teams seem to know that play and the LB and S on that side now go with the third WR (even when they are in zone) so they in effect get 4 defenders in that area. We used to have a variant of that play where instead of the bubble screen near the side line, we would instead have that WR in motion stop and it would be a screen at the line scrimmage. I think that variant scored us a TE against kU.

Maybe Moore needs a deeper playbook and pick a new variety of game day plays, but now teams are locked into what we want to do.

Good observations. Good post.

[Rantz]

I am not sure teams know the plays but they definite know the tendencies.

For example, when Mizzou has a TE on one side and send them in motion slowly to the other side right before the snap, they always run that direction. It was mentioned during the Vandy game and sure enough they do that same play over and over with different TEs and different sides, but they always send the TE across as the seal block. A&M picked up on it and knew exactly where the ball was going when the TE did that. We have other plays in the arsenal off the formation like one where they boot leg the QB to the TE side and throw to him in the flat, but that seems to be lost in the playbook somewhere.

Likewise when we do WR stacked on one side, and send the third WR across towards the stack, it is always a bubble screen to that side. They use the motion to get a second blocker to that WR side, but teams seem to know that play and the LB and S on that side now go with the third WR (even when they are in zone) so they in effect get 4 defenders in that area. We used to have a variant of that play where instead of the bubble screen near the side line, we would instead have that WR in motion stop and it would be a screen at the line scrimmage. I think that variant scored us a TE against kU.

Maybe Moore needs a deeper playbook and pick a new variety of game day plays, but now teams are locked into what we want to do.

Yep….you are one of those who have been paying attention. A 5th grader can see it. The media has been paying attention…commentators have been paying attention…other teams have been paying attention….Arky has been paying attention and it will show next week….why hasn’t Drink and Moore been paying attention?

I sure hope the Mizzou brass is paying attention.

[Rantz]

I'm glad you enjoyed a Saturday night of flipping around to all the post game shows and constantly hitting pause and reverse, so you could joyously start a thread to badger the football program.

Hey…what can I say! When you do great, we congrats to you, rejoice with you….when you stink, we tell you, you stink. And you mi man…stink!

[Armchair QB]

Drink even said in the post game interview we had no consistency or creativity on offense. He seems genuinely frustrated. It’s been hard to pinpoint the source of the vanilla, easy to defend, conservative offense approach whether it’s Drink or Moore or both.

Hard to say if he’s realizing it’s a bad way to win big games, and he needs to change, or if he’s frustrated with his coaches on offense.

Drink has assembled a really good team. He has the program winning and on the cusp of being really good. But he has to solve that puzzle or he’ll never break through.

[dugoutrex]

I have never ever heard a commentator comment on Mizzou’s offense like they did yesterday. He said it on more than 3 times and even said Mizzou offense is non existent. He talked bad about Mizzous offense but said it nicely. It was an embarrassing game on national tv. And then during half time , Buggar McFarland talked a little about Mizzous offense and said Mizzou can’t win scoring only field goals. I have a buddy who lives in Denver text me every week saying we have a great team, but the play calling is horrible.

A few games ago a player said Vandy knew Mizzous plays. That raised a few eyebrows around college football nation. After watching closely even before that statement was made I was saying teams knew exactly what Mizzou was going to do. If it wasn’t obvious to passionate Mizzou fans , that only means you haven’t been paying attention. It’s not that teams are stealing Mizzous plays, it that defensive coordinators knew what Mizzou was going to do because they saw we have a week QB position and a very strong run game. They saw Drink and Moore dialing up run play after run play because they had a stud in Hardy. So how do you stop that? Stack the box. They saw Mizzou wasn’t creative enough to beat them if they stopped the run. What Drink had been doing was great against mid major and weak SEC teams, but the big boys you have to keep them honest, but Drink and Moore can’t seem to get it!

If we all see it, football commentators see it, opposing coaches see it, why can’t Drink and Moore see it? And if Tney do, they sure aren’t coaching like it. Are they really not creative enough? Drink at the beginning was billed as an offensive guru! I’m sure Mizzou donors and board of curators see it. Why can’t Drink and Moore see it? How long before some type of action is taken to correct it? I mean Mizzou is right there…at the door just waiting to go in, but we just can’t get over the threshold. I hope some one in the higher pay grade makes a move to fix the situation…I’d had to lose Drink and his recruiting, so he needs to go out and get a big time coordinator and let him call plays and Drink needs to stay out of it.

careful now, Basil is going to call you uneducated!

[Rantz]

Drink even said in the post game interview we had no consistency or creativity on offense. He seems genuinely frustrated. It’s been hard to pinpoint the source of the vanilla, easy to defend, conservative offense approach whether it’s Drink or Moore or both.

Hard to say if he’s realizing it’s a bad way to win big games, and he needs to change, or if he’s frustrated with his coaches on offense.

Drink has assembled a really good team. He has the program winning and on the cusp of being really good. But he has to solve that puzzle or he’ll never break through.

With Drink saying that...Moore should be on the hot seat....we shall see how this plays out.

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I am not sure teams know the plays but they definite know the tendencies.

For example, when Mizzou has a TE on one side and send them in motion slowly to the other side right before the snap, they always run that direction. It was mentioned during the Vandy game and sure enough they do that same play over and over with different TEs and different sides, but they always send the TE across as the seal block. A&M picked up on it and knew exactly where the ball was going when the TE did that. We have other plays in the arsenal off the formation like one where they boot leg the QB to the TE side and throw to him in the flat, but that seems to be lost in the playbook somewhere.

Likewise when we do WR stacked on one side, and send the third WR across towards the stack, it is always a bubble screen to that side. They use the motion to get a second blocker to that WR side, but teams seem to know that play and the LB and S on that side now go with the third WR (even when they are in zone) so they in effect get 4 defenders in that area. We used to have a variant of that play where instead of the bubble screen near the side line, we would instead have that WR in motion stop and it would be a screen at the line scrimmage. I think that variant scored us a TE against kU.

Maybe Moore needs a deeper playbook and pick a new variety of game day plays, but now teams are locked into what we want to do.

Someone posted this on tigerboard.com

Just before the half, the Tigers were lined up on 3rd down goal to go at the 3 when OU called time out as a receiver went into motion from left to right.

After the timeout, Missouri was in the same formation, ran the same play (with the same motion) and Hardy was stuffed.

The Tigers then kicked the field goal to make it 14-6.

Why did Missouri have the same play call before and after the timeout?

Good question. The idiocy of the offense is beyond description.

[winonsports]

I'm glad you enjoyed a Saturday night of flipping around to all the post game shows and constantly hitting pause and reverse, so you could joyously start a thread to badger the football program.

Hey…what can I say! When you do great, we congrats to you, rejoice with you….when you stink, we tell you, you stink. And you mi man…stink!

If that's true, then where are all the threads on the defense playing great and getting congrats?

Something like that certainly isn't getting started by you and your trolling buddies.

[Rantz]

I'm glad you enjoyed a Saturday night of flipping around to all the post game shows and constantly hitting pause and reverse, so you could joyously start a thread to badger the football program.

Hey…what can I say! When you do great, we congrats to you, rejoice with you….when you stink, we tell you, you stink. And you mi man…stink!

If that's true, then where are all the threads on the defense playing great and getting congrats?

Something like that certainly isn't getting started by you and your trolling buddies.

Once again…you see what you want to see. As said in the passed…you are very much delusional.

[Armchair QB]

I am not sure teams know the plays but they definite know the tendencies.

For example, when Mizzou has a TE on one side and send them in motion slowly to the other side right before the snap, they always run that direction. It was mentioned during the Vandy game and sure enough they do that same play over and over with different TEs and different sides, but they always send the TE across as the seal block. A&M picked up on it and knew exactly where the ball was going when the TE did that. We have other plays in the arsenal off the formation like one where they boot leg the QB to the TE side and throw to him in the flat, but that seems to be lost in the playbook somewhere.

Likewise when we do WR stacked on one side, and send the third WR across towards the stack, it is always a bubble screen to that side. They use the motion to get a second blocker to that WR side, but teams seem to know that play and the LB and S on that side now go with the third WR (even when they are in zone) so they in effect get 4 defenders in that area. We used to have a variant of that play where instead of the bubble screen near the side line, we would instead have that WR in motion stop and it would be a screen at the line scrimmage. I think that variant scored us a TE against kU.

Maybe Moore needs a deeper playbook and pick a new variety of game day plays, but now teams are locked into what we want to do.

Someone posted this on tigerboard.com

Just before the half, the Tigers were lined up on 3rd down goal to go at the 3 when OU called time out as a receiver went into motion from left to right.

After the timeout, Missouri was in the same formation, ran the same play (with the same motion) and Hardy was stuffed.

The Tigers then kicked the field goal to make it 14-6.

Why did Missouri have the same play call before and after the timeout?

Good question. The idiocy of the offense is beyond description.

I wish I had a nickel for every time we ran Hardy to the right. They adjusted in the 2nd quarter with a spy and kept finding the hole at the same time Hardy did. But we kept running the same play over and over. Plus the OLine couldn’t block the pass rush so when we did run a pass play Pribula had a D lineman in his face almost immediately. We did nothing to change the game. Drink even said it.

He also said they elected to kick a FG after OU called a timeout and he thought they had too good a look at our play. I thought, why not still go for it only run something different. It’s like we have 5 plays total.

[winonsports]

I'm glad you enjoyed a Saturday night of flipping around to all the post game shows and constantly hitting pause and reverse, so you could joyously start a thread to badger the football program.

Hey…what can I say! When you do great, we congrats to you, rejoice with you….when you stink, we tell you, you stink. And you mi man…stink!

If that's true, then where are all the threads on the defense playing great and getting congrats?

Something like that certainly isn't getting started by you and your trolling buddies.

Once again…you see what you want to see. As said in the passed…you are very much delusional.

I want to see some of the threads you started that give congrats to the Mizzou defense.

But you seem to have PASSED on that opportunity and want to create a delusion that you have.

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I am not sure teams know the plays but they definite know the tendencies.

For example, when Mizzou has a TE on one side and send them in motion slowly to the other side right before the snap, they always run that direction. It was mentioned during the Vandy game and sure enough they do that same play over and over with different TEs and different sides, but they always send the TE across as the seal block. A&M picked up on it and knew exactly where the ball was going when the TE did that. We have other plays in the arsenal off the formation like one where they boot leg the QB to the TE side and throw to him in the flat, but that seems to be lost in the playbook somewhere.

Likewise when we do WR stacked on one side, and send the third WR across towards the stack, it is always a bubble screen to that side. They use the motion to get a second blocker to that WR side, but teams seem to know that play and the LB and S on that side now go with the third WR (even when they are in zone) so they in effect get 4 defenders in that area. We used to have a variant of that play where instead of the bubble screen near the side line, we would instead have that WR in motion stop and it would be a screen at the line scrimmage. I think that variant scored us a TE against kU.

Maybe Moore needs a deeper playbook and pick a new variety of game day plays, but now teams are locked into what we want to do.

Someone posted this on tigerboard.com

Just before the half, the Tigers were lined up on 3rd down goal to go at the 3 when OU called time out as a receiver went into motion from left to right.

After the timeout, Missouri was in the same formation, ran the same play (with the same motion) and Hardy was stuffed.

The Tigers then kicked the field goal to make it 14-6.

Why did Missouri have the same play call before and after the timeout?

Good question. The idiocy of the offense is beyond description.

I wish I had a nickel for every time we ran Hardy to the right. They adjusted in the 2nd quarter with a spy and kept finding the hole at the same time Hardy did. But we kept running the same play over and over. Plus the OLine couldn’t block the pass rush so when we did run a pass play Pribula had a D lineman in his face almost immediately. We did nothing to change the game. Drink even said it.

He also said they elected to kick a FG after OU called a timeout and he thought they had too good a look at our play. I thought, why not still go for it only run something different. It’s like we have 5 plays total.

Yet Drinkwitz said after the game that the play calling lacked imagination. Ya think?

[Rvrartst]

I'm glad you enjoyed a Saturday night of flipping around to all the post game shows and constantly hitting pause and reverse, so you could joyously start a thread to badger the football program.

I never comment on your comments because you're not worthy of responding to. But I just have to say this...do you have some kind of mental illness? The problems with this offense are things we ALL see. It's not because we're bad fans, it's not because we don't know at least a little bit about football, and it's not because we want to see Drink, the program, or whoever fail and are happy when they do. It's a discussion board. People want to discuss, and sometimes argue, anything and everything about Mizzou football. You are adding NOTHING to this. Your comments are boring, predictable, crass, and a complete waste of time. This will be the one and only time I respond to you, but you really need to take a long look in the mirror and decide what the point of your comments actually is other than idiotic attacks on everybody else.

And by the way, I do not agree with everything in the original post. But if I feel strongly enough about it, I'll attack the points I disagree with, not just make silly accusations having nothing to do with them.