Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators
Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
Team estimated he would get $12M in arbitration.
Team felt he was not worth that price point , according to Steve Phillips on MLB Tonight show.
Team felt he was not worth that price point , according to Steve Phillips on MLB Tonight show.
-
MIDMOBIRDTWO
- Forum User
- Posts: 4375
- Joined: 23 May 2024 14:24 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
No thanks.
-
scoutyjones2
- Forum User
- Posts: 8748
- Joined: 23 May 2024 14:43 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
Deja vu all over again 
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
He's fallen off both offensively and defensively.
But if he and Arozarena had been the Cards' outfielders for the past 5 years, they would have been the most productive OFs the Cards have had for that period.
Roz - averaged 123 wRC+ and was incredibly clutch.
Garcia - averaged 102 wRC+ and helped his team win a WS.
But if he and Arozarena had been the Cards' outfielders for the past 5 years, they would have been the most productive OFs the Cards have had for that period.
Roz - averaged 123 wRC+ and was incredibly clutch.
Garcia - averaged 102 wRC+ and helped his team win a WS.
-
ScotchMIrish
- Forum User
- Posts: 1546
- Joined: 08 Sep 2024 21:25 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
Numbers similar to Gorman. I'd take a pass.
-
moose-and-squirrel
- Forum User
- Posts: 5968
- Joined: 20 Dec 2020 10:49 am
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
the non peds version isnt very good
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
I would sign him for releasable money. 1 year /2mil?
Flip him or release him if he blows.
Flip him or release him if he blows.
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
Garcia was a GG nominee last year and despite a bad offensive season managed 19 HRs and 75 RBI. If 37 year old Pham could pull $4mm from the miserly Pirates I think someone will go 6-8 with Garcia. If the Cards were close to contention he might be worth a look.
-
JuanAgosto
- Forum User
- Posts: 6429
- Joined: 01 Jul 2021 21:30 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
If he is looking for anything above $6 million per, the Cardinals should pass.
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
I think if he wants more than 2 or 3 mil DeWitt will pass.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑22 Nov 2025 18:55 pm If he is looking for anything above $6 million per, the Cardinals should pass.
-
JuanAgosto
- Forum User
- Posts: 6429
- Joined: 01 Jul 2021 21:30 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
I agree.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2025 19:14 pmI think if he wants more than 2 or 3 mil DeWitt will pass.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑22 Nov 2025 18:55 pm If he is looking for anything above $6 million per, the Cardinals should pass.
-
mattmitchl44
- Forum User
- Posts: 2637
- Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
It was a good thing for Garcia that he took that 2 yr./$14 million deal back after then end of the 2023 season instead of going the ARB route.
-
Alex Reyes Cy Young
- Forum User
- Posts: 3363
- Joined: 25 May 2024 06:20 am
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
With his ability to control the running game and his leather with some power don’t you think he’ll remain in the league for 1-2 more years?mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 04:52 am It was a good thing for Garcia that he took that 2 yr./$14 million deal back after then end of the 2023 season instead of going the ARB route.
He played a ~3 bWAR last year
-
mattmitchl44
- Forum User
- Posts: 2637
- Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
0.7 fWAR in 2025, -0.1 fWAR in 2024.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 06:14 amWith his ability to control the running game and his leather with some power don’t you think he’ll remain in the league for 1-2 more years?mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 04:52 am It was a good thing for Garcia that he took that 2 yr./$14 million deal back after then end of the 2023 season instead of going the ARB route.
He played a ~3 bWAR last year
His entire value right now is being driven by his defense, and how individual teams will evaluate defense (as evidenced by the split between bWAR and fWAR) is unpredictable.
He'll probably get take-it-or-leave-it offers for like 1 yr./$3-$4 million, but I doubt any team will value him highly enough to manipulated into making a second, higher bid if he says no.
-
Alex Reyes Cy Young
- Forum User
- Posts: 3363
- Joined: 25 May 2024 06:20 am
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
No doubt he’s taking a reduced number than his arbitration no question imo. But to think he won’t be making 3-4 (I like your projection) on a one year deal imo is foolish.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 06:24 am0.7 fWAR in 2025, -0.1 fWAR in 2024.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 06:14 amWith his ability to control the running game and his leather with some power don’t you think he’ll remain in the league for 1-2 more years?mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 04:52 am It was a good thing for Garcia that he took that 2 yr./$14 million deal back after then end of the 2023 season instead of going the ARB route.
He played a ~3 bWAR last year
His entire value right now is being driven by his defense, and how individual teams will evaluate defense (as evidenced by the split between bWAR and fWAR) is unpredictable.
He'll probably get take-it-or-leave-it offers for like 1 yr./$3-$4 million, but I doubt any team will value him highly enough to manipulated into making a second, higher bid if he says no.
Any given year he can give you excellent defense and his arm controls the run game.
His aggregates HR / RBIs are rated at ~75th in the league.
He’s no Luke Voit.
-
mattmitchl44
- Forum User
- Posts: 2637
- Joined: 23 May 2024 15:33 pm
Re: Adolis Garcia non-tendered by Rangers
He had a wRC+ of 94 and 83 the last two years. So while he is aggregating, he's costing you a lot of outs in the process. Teams will notice that.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Nov 2025 07:10 am His aggregates HR / RBIs are rated at ~75th in the league.
He’s no Luke Voit.
Luke Voit was actually wRC+ 121 for his career. So, yeah, he's no Luke Voit.