One thing that crossed my mind about "top prospects"

[ScotchMIrish]

John Mozeliak used a system that highly overvalued Cardinals prospects. He thought every decent player was going to be an All Star. He was either incredibly ignorant or just lied. Im guessing he preferred spreading [nonsense] hype so he could continue being lazy.

Sandy Alcantara - All-star
Zac Gallen - All-star
Randy Arozarena - All-star
Adolis Garcia - All-star
Brendan Donovan - All-star
Masyn Winn - probable future All-star?

Just sayin' - they have had their share of All-stars in the system in recent years. But, yeah, they haven't necessarily done a good job of knowing who to keep and who to trade.

Alcantara - Traded
Gallen - Traded
Arozarena - Traded
Garcia - Traded

None of those were All Stars in StL. Mozeliak foolishly traded them before they could flourish.

Yet we kept some real stallions like Hudson, Baker, and gave Motter two separate contracts. All because Mo couldn't tell the talent difference between Barry Bonds and Ryan Vilade.

Correct and that was because their internal evaluations were poor which is why they were spying on Luhnow in Houston.

I believe that. Mozeliak wasn't suited to do the job. Once Luhnow left the organization, Mo was exposed.

That appears to be the case. I thought Luhnow got a raw deal in the sign stealing fiasco. Manfred didn't want to fight the union so instead of going after the players involved he went after Luhnow who knew nothing about it.

Manfred is a fool. He and Mozeliak probably get along well.

I'm surprised the small and mid market owners keep Manfred in place.

You mean in place as in employed as commissioner?

Correct. The owners hire and fire the commissioner.

I've come to believe the large markets want to dominate and win. While the small markets just want to profit and be puds. Therefore the large markets make decisions and the small markets go along.

Cardinals fans may have figured that out considering attendance.

[JuanAgosto]

John Mozeliak used a system that highly overvalued Cardinals prospects. He thought every decent player was going to be an All Star. He was either incredibly ignorant or just lied. Im guessing he preferred spreading [nonsense] hype so he could continue being lazy.

Sandy Alcantara - All-star
Zac Gallen - All-star
Randy Arozarena - All-star
Adolis Garcia - All-star
Brendan Donovan - All-star
Masyn Winn - probable future All-star?

Just sayin' - they have had their share of All-stars in the system in recent years. But, yeah, they haven't necessarily done a good job of knowing who to keep and who to trade.

Alcantara - Traded
Gallen - Traded
Arozarena - Traded
Garcia - Traded

None of those were All Stars in StL. Mozeliak foolishly traded them before they could flourish.

Yet we kept some real stallions like Hudson, Baker, and gave Motter two separate contracts. All because Mo couldn't tell the talent difference between Barry Bonds and Ryan Vilade.

Correct and that was because their internal evaluations were poor which is why they were spying on Luhnow in Houston.

I believe that. Mozeliak wasn't suited to do the job. Once Luhnow left the organization, Mo was exposed.

That appears to be the case. I thought Luhnow got a raw deal in the sign stealing fiasco. Manfred didn't want to fight the union so instead of going after the players involved he went after Luhnow who knew nothing about it.

Manfred is a fool. He and Mozeliak probably get along well.

I'm surprised the small and mid market owners keep Manfred in place.

You mean in place as in employed as commissioner?

Correct. The owners hire and fire the commissioner.

I've come to believe the large markets want to dominate and win. While the small markets just want to profit and be puds. Therefore the large markets make decisions and the small markets go along.

Cardinals fans may have figured that out considering attendance.

I'd say you are right.

[ScotchMIrish]

Sandy Alcantara - All-star
Zac Gallen - All-star
Randy Arozarena - All-star
Adolis Garcia - All-star
Brendan Donovan - All-star
Masyn Winn - probable future All-star?

Just sayin' - they have had their share of All-stars in the system in recent years. But, yeah, they haven't necessarily done a good job of knowing who to keep and who to trade.

Alcantara - Traded
Gallen - Traded
Arozarena - Traded
Garcia - Traded

None of those were All Stars in StL. Mozeliak foolishly traded them before they could flourish.

Yet we kept some real stallions like Hudson, Baker, and gave Motter two separate contracts. All because Mo couldn't tell the talent difference between Barry Bonds and Ryan Vilade.

Correct and that was because their internal evaluations were poor which is why they were spying on Luhnow in Houston.

I believe that. Mozeliak wasn't suited to do the job. Once Luhnow left the organization, Mo was exposed.

That appears to be the case. I thought Luhnow got a raw deal in the sign stealing fiasco. Manfred didn't want to fight the union so instead of going after the players involved he went after Luhnow who knew nothing about it.

Manfred is a fool. He and Mozeliak probably get along well.

I'm surprised the small and mid market owners keep Manfred in place.

You mean in place as in employed as commissioner?

Correct. The owners hire and fire the commissioner.

I've come to believe the large markets want to dominate and win. While the small markets just want to profit and be puds. Therefore the large markets make decisions and the small markets go along.

Cardinals fans may have figured that out considering attendance.

I'd say you are right.

It's akin to power conference college teams paying lower conference teams to play and lose. Smaller market teams get revenue sharing and accept the fact they have little chance to win most years.

[JuanAgosto]

Alcantara - Traded
Gallen - Traded
Arozarena - Traded
Garcia - Traded

None of those were All Stars in StL. Mozeliak foolishly traded them before they could flourish.

Yet we kept some real stallions like Hudson, Baker, and gave Motter two separate contracts. All because Mo couldn't tell the talent difference between Barry Bonds and Ryan Vilade.

Correct and that was because their internal evaluations were poor which is why they were spying on Luhnow in Houston.

I believe that. Mozeliak wasn't suited to do the job. Once Luhnow left the organization, Mo was exposed.

That appears to be the case. I thought Luhnow got a raw deal in the sign stealing fiasco. Manfred didn't want to fight the union so instead of going after the players involved he went after Luhnow who knew nothing about it.

Manfred is a fool. He and Mozeliak probably get along well.

I'm surprised the small and mid market owners keep Manfred in place.

You mean in place as in employed as commissioner?

Correct. The owners hire and fire the commissioner.

I've come to believe the large markets want to dominate and win. While the small markets just want to profit and be puds. Therefore the large markets make decisions and the small markets go along.

Cardinals fans may have figured that out considering attendance.

I'd say you are right.

It's akin to power conference college teams paying lower conference teams to play and lose. Smaller market teams get revenue sharing and accept the fact they have little chance to win most years.

Not the best product to give the fans. Honest competition with more parity would create more excitement and fan support. One would think that would generate more $ all the way around.

[ScotchMIrish]

Correct and that was because their internal evaluations were poor which is why they were spying on Luhnow in Houston.

I believe that. Mozeliak wasn't suited to do the job. Once Luhnow left the organization, Mo was exposed.

That appears to be the case. I thought Luhnow got a raw deal in the sign stealing fiasco. Manfred didn't want to fight the union so instead of going after the players involved he went after Luhnow who knew nothing about it.

Manfred is a fool. He and Mozeliak probably get along well.

I'm surprised the small and mid market owners keep Manfred in place.

You mean in place as in employed as commissioner?

Correct. The owners hire and fire the commissioner.

I've come to believe the large markets want to dominate and win. While the small markets just want to profit and be puds. Therefore the large markets make decisions and the small markets go along.

Cardinals fans may have figured that out considering attendance.

I'd say you are right.

It's akin to power conference college teams paying lower conference teams to play and lose. Smaller market teams get revenue sharing and accept the fact they have little chance to win most years.

Not the best product to give the fans. Honest competition with more parity would create more excitement and fan support. One would think that would generate more $ all the way around.

I agree.