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Pierre McGuire
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Re: Binnington hasn't been good enough by far

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Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Nov 2025 07:49 am Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
at some point Binningtons numbers are what they are and i agree there are a lot of defensive breakdowns that have led to goals. .871 sav pct is not all because of dmen 5-7. The Blues are middle of the pack in HDCA but among the worst in HDSV % which also tells us they are making the big save
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Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Nov 2025 08:33 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Nov 2025 07:49 am Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
at some point Binningtons numbers are what they are and i agree there are a lot of defensive breakdowns that have led to goals. .871 sav pct is not all because of dmen 5-7. The Blues are middle of the pack in HDCA but among the worst in HDSV % which also tells us they are making the big save
Binner isn’t gonna play out of his head every season…at some point the rest of the team has to score some goals and win some games. Get better players in front of Binner and his numbers will improve and the Blues will be more competitive. Army has got to upgrade that 3rd pairing.
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Agree the goaltending has been weak. But is there any player that has been 'good enough' at this point?
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So how deep will Canadians sink Armstrong in the lake if he picks Binnington, and Binnington gets blown up in the Olympics?

At the moment, Armstrong is not confident in Binnington for the Olympics.
Armstrong, the Blues GM, said he would lean on David Alexander, the Blues director of goaltending and Canada’s goalie consultant.
“I think it’s a wide-open competition right now,” Armstrong said.
I feel sorry for Binner to know that Blues Management is letting him twist in the wind like this. First they put an open gate in front of him in the regular season, then they disrespect him in public.

Good 'ol Army. He's working hard as always for the Blues fans and Binnington.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Nov 2025 07:49 am Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
Yep, goaltending was atrocious to start, but it feels like they've turned it around to at least adequate.

The biggest factor about the 3rd D pairing is that they (rightfully) aren't trusted with any significant amount of ice time. They're getting about 10 minutes, right along with our 4th line grinders. The rest of the D are all getting about 25. That's unsustainable for any team, and it's killing the Blues RIGHT NOW. And my god, what if there's an injury?

Absolute malpractice that they entered the season with the personnel they have past the top 4, if you ask me.
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Ziggy3 wrote: 21 Nov 2025 09:53 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Nov 2025 07:49 am Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
Yep, goaltending was atrocious to start, but it feels like they've turned it around to at least adequate.

The biggest factor about the 3rd D pairing is that they (rightfully) aren't trusted with any significant amount of ice time. They're getting about 10 minutes, right along with our 4th line grinders. The rest of the D are all getting about 25. That's unsustainable for any team, and it's killing the Blues RIGHT NOW. And my god, what if there's an injury?

Absolute malpractice that they entered the season with the personnel they have past the top 4, if you ask me.
When Army acquired Mailloux, he said that Mailloux fills a hole for the roster. What we are seeing on the ice is the hole that Army acknowledged but didn't plug with Mailloux. Mailloux doesn't even solve problems in the AHL. He is -2 and Springfield remains one of the worst teams in the league.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Nov 2025 07:49 am Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
I’d target Power over Byram and I’d wait until summer. I want this team to lose so i can gain some hope for the future
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The goalies were atrocious to start the season and both have picked it up. I don't ever look at defense as just a defenseman issue. It's a five man unit out there that needs to perform as a structured unit. If the forwards aren't doing there job, Dmen are hung out to dry having to cover multiple players. Now the D pairings especially the 3rd certainly could be playing better but it's better team effort required by all.

As for Binnington, besides his first two seasons he's been nothing special during the regular season. He's a big game goalie though and that's why we've kept him around.
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LGB73 wrote: 21 Nov 2025 10:06 am He's a big game goalie though and that's why we've kept him around.
Sometimes yes…sometimes no
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theograce wrote: 21 Nov 2025 10:03 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 21 Nov 2025 07:49 am Binner isn’t the problem, the defense is the problem. Until they upgrade dmen 5-7 we are a lottery team. Byram is the player I would be targeting. He can come in and then you can move Fowler down to the 3rd pairing for stability and if they aren’t gonna give Skinner a chance, then at least find somebody that can slot in the right side. 3rd pairing is a mess…that has to be fixed. Once that is resolved then we move onto the forwards if need be.
I’d target Power over Byram and I’d wait until summer. I want this team to lose so i can gain some hope for the future
+1000 need some top skill in the draft. These are not the OT points you dig and claw for.
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If there is a problem with our goaltending, it's because every kind of combination keeps getting put in front of them and they have to be more prepared and have a lot less time to figure out what those guys in front of them are goint to do on every different play. It's not a goaltending problem when you are so frequantly staring at an opposing player six feet in front of you, all alone with the puck on his stick.
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