OT: Warren Spahn

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Galatians221jb1
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 15 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:40 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:35 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:58 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:

35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP

17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.

And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.

How is that good? :roll:
With a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:
Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.
LMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horrible :lol: career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter? :roll:
The only thing that I am convinced of is that you are the biggest as-$ on this forum.
Spahn’s teammate Lew Burdette was one of the best hitting pitchers of all time.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Sheepdawg wrote: 15 Nov 2025 20:22 pm Stan Musial and Spahn faced each other a record 361 times, with Musial batting .319 against and hitting 14 home runs. Only Willie Mays had more HRs against Spahn with 17.
Including Willie's first career hit, a home run off Spahn
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Sheepdawg wrote: 15 Nov 2025 20:22 pm Stan Musial and Spahn faced each other a record 361 times, with Musial batting .319 against and hitting 14 home runs. Only Willie Mays had more HRs against Spahn with 17.
That’s nuts.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 07:52 am Seems like Spahn is often overlooked as one of the greatest pitchers ever.

Cy Young 511 wins
Walter Johnson 417 wins
Grover Alexander 373 wins
Christy Mathewson 373 wins
Warren Spahn 363 wins

Spahn didn't win his first ML game until he was 25, because of serving in WWII.

13 times he won 20 or more games in a season.

At 42 years old he was 23 - 7.

I was lucky to have seen him pitch and have to have met him and had a beer with him.
If he were a modern day Cardinals people here would demand we trade him for prospects as soon as he hit age 30.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Galatians221jb1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 21:37 pm
60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 15 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:40 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:35 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:58 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:

35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP

17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.

And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.

How is that good? :roll:
With a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:
Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.
LMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horrible :lol: career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter? :roll:
The only thing that I am convinced of is that you are the biggest as-$ on this forum.
Spahn’s teammate Lew Burdette was one of the best hitting pitchers of all time.
Not really. He did have a few good years. An 18 year career.

12 HRs
75 RBI
.183 Avg.
.216 OBP

Not as good as Spahn.

I remember Don Newcombe with the Dodgers could really hit.

12 year career:

15 HR
109 RBI
.268 Avg.
.336 OPB
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Did any notice 2 pf the top 3 were Cawdnuls, well once upon a time he was a Perfecto!
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Sheepdawg wrote: 15 Nov 2025 20:22 pm Stan Musial and Spahn faced each other a record 361 times, with Musial batting .319 against and hitting 14 home runs. Only Willie Mays had more HRs against Spahn with 17.
I believe Spahn once claimed his best approach vs Musial was to walk him on 4 pitches and then pick him off first.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Galatians221jb1 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 21:37 pm
60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 15 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:40 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 11:35 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 15 Nov 2025 10:58 am
OldRed wrote: 15 Nov 2025 08:31 am Spahn was also a pretty good hitting pitcher:

35 HRS
189 RBI
.194 BA
.234 OBP

17 years in a row he hit at least one HR and his last he hit was at 43 years of age.

And of course, the legendary game where he and Marichal 16 inning game in which Marichal threw 227 pitches and Spahn 201. The score ended 1 - 0 Giants on a walk off Willie Mays home run in the bottom of 16th inning.

How is that good? :roll:
With a little effort you can find this information for yourself, but since you are lazy today read on:
Spahn was also a good hitter, with at least one home run in 17 straight seasons, and finishing with an NL career record for pitchers who do not play any other position, with 35 home runs. Wes Ferrell, who spent most of his time in the American League, holds the overall record for pitchers, with 37. Spahn posted a .194 batting average (363-for-1872) with 141 runs, 57 doubles, six triples, 94 walks, and 189 runs batted in (RBIs). He also drove in 10 or more runs nine times, with a career-high 18 in 1951. In 1958, he batted a strong .333 (36-for-108). In eight World Series games, he batted .200 (4-for-20) with four RBIs and a walk.
LMAO..he is not a good hitter. you posted his stat's. That's horrible :lol: career 43 OPS+! you think that is a good hitter? :roll:
The only thing that I am convinced of is that you are the biggest as-$ on this forum.
Spahn’s teammate Lew Burdette was one of the best hitting pitchers of all time.
Drysdale was a decent hitter. Had 7 home runs in 66 at bats one year. Amazing for a pitcher.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Gibson was considered a good-hitting pitcher. Some thought Waino was too.
Careers:
Gibby - .206/.243/.301/.544. 24 HRs 144 RBI
Spahn - .194/.234/.287/.521. 35 HRs 189 RBI
Waino - .194/.221/.293/.514. 10 HRs 55 RBI

There's a reason they instituted the DH...

Mostly due to longevity, Spahn has the most RBI of any pitcher as a hitter from 1945 until the DH -- and 2nd most HR. Gibby is 5th in RBI.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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ClassicO wrote: 19 Nov 2025 21:26 pm Gibson was considered a good-hitting pitcher. Some thought Waino was too.
Careers:
Gibby - .206/.243/.301/.544. 24 HRs 144 RBI
Spahn - .194/.234/.287/.521. 35 HRs 189 RBI
Waino - .194/.221/.293/.514. 10 HRs 55 RBI

There's a reason they instituted the DH...

Mostly due to longevity, Spahn has the most RBI of any pitcher as a hitter from 1945 until the DH -- and 2nd most HR. Gibby is 5th in RBI.
I remember reading somewhere that there were a few seasons that Gibson had a better batting average than hitters did vs. himself. But I don't feeling like looking it up, you guys can verify it yourselves.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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Incredibly high leg kick. Leaned back so far that several times his knuckles hit the dirt.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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“Spahn and Sain and pray for rain”.
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Re: OT: Warren Spahn

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12xu wrote: 19 Nov 2025 20:38 pm
Sheepdawg wrote: 15 Nov 2025 20:22 pm Stan Musial and Spahn faced each other a record 361 times, with Musial batting .319 against and hitting 14 home runs. Only Willie Mays had more HRs against Spahn with 17.
I believe Spahn once claimed his best approach vs Musial was to walk him on 4 pitches and then pick him off first.
Another pitcher said his strategy was to throw his best pitch to Stan, then back up third base.
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