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Re: MU should seriously consider...

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Power74 wrote: 17 Nov 2025 13:57 pm I meant to add that it is the anti-Gary Pinkel. Pinkel's teams could be beaten but they never beat themselves. Always one of the best in the country in fewest penalties and turnover differential.
Along with great QB play, good special teams, good clock management.
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IF you only went with best fits for competitive purposes would be B12 hands down where MU would be one of top teams immediately. But it's a pipe dream as money is too good in SEC tho will always be considered a outsider and never a big brand. OU and TX are already huge successful brands and blew past Tigers as far as acceptability and respect.

BTW as I have said many times to all you Big Mary's who see the glass as half empty. He has total control over program and state and has gotten EVERYTHING he has ever wanted and total backing of all the powers that be here. MU fans are NOT spoiled entitled southerners and have low right sized expectations PLUS a bigtime new contract signed this summer and is making lots of money. May sound foolish but even a couple million more would NOT compensate for what he has here.

Saw this morning he said exactly what I expressed how he would use all this leaving talk. Need more NIL money to compete, which is the truth. guarantee he will get much bigger budget. used to see this all the time with employees who interviewed for better jobs with more pay and were offered but had too many personal reasons to stay where they were. Would go to employers for counter offers and with engineers better equipment to work with, bettered their situation without changing. I hated it but didn't blame them. Heck as the rainmaker at every place I was at used that tactic myself.
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 17 Nov 2025 14:32 pm Since its inception into the SEC in 2012, Mizzou has the 8th-best record of all SEC teams. They are 71-44 w/ a .620 Win % under Drink. This is better than the overall below. They can obviously compete in the SEC; they just have not made it over the hump yet. The SEC schedule leads to some very exciting matchups ups and the SEC also helps with recruiting, as it is the elite of the elite. There is zero reason to leave. You don't run away from your problems; you meet them head-on.

All-time SEC football records (2012–2024)
Team Overall Record Win %
Alabama 158–21 .883
Georgia 141–34 .805
LSU 113–50 .693
Texas A&M* 104–55 .654
Ole Miss 95–62 .605
Florida 95–66 .590
Auburn 89–68 .567
Missouri* 85–71 .545
Mississippi State 83–71 .539
Kentucky 83–78 .516
Tennessee 80–79 .503
South Carolina 77–81 .487
Vanderbilt 66–94 .413
Arkansas 60–93 .392
The goal is getting into the CFP - that's where most of the financial reward is to run a program. Having a 9 game SEC with a P4 OOC just makes getting into the CFP that much harder compared to the B1G, B12, and ACC conferences. At seasons end, there is NO reward for a high SOS.
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JackBolly wrote: 19 Nov 2025 10:20 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 17 Nov 2025 14:32 pm Since its inception into the SEC in 2012, Mizzou has the 8th-best record of all SEC teams. They are 71-44 w/ a .620 Win % under Drink. This is better than the overall below. They can obviously compete in the SEC; they just have not made it over the hump yet. The SEC schedule leads to some very exciting matchups ups and the SEC also helps with recruiting, as it is the elite of the elite. There is zero reason to leave. You don't run away from your problems; you meet them head-on.

All-time SEC football records (2012–2024)
Team Overall Record Win %
Alabama 158–21 .883
Georgia 141–34 .805
LSU 113–50 .693
Texas A&M* 104–55 .654
Ole Miss 95–62 .605
Florida 95–66 .590
Auburn 89–68 .567
Missouri* 85–71 .545
Mississippi State 83–71 .539
Kentucky 83–78 .516
Tennessee 80–79 .503
South Carolina 77–81 .487
Vanderbilt 66–94 .413
Arkansas 60–93 .392
The goal is getting into the CFP - that's where most of the financial reward is to run a program. Having a 9 game SEC with a P4 OOC just makes getting into the CFP that much harder compared to the B1G, B12, and ACC conferences. At seasons end, there is NO reward for a high SOS.
The TV deal has something to do with this….espn/abc will pay more for better games…

Many teams have three cupcakes and that’s a ratings challenge…which translates into ad rates…
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 17 Nov 2025 14:32 pm Since its inception into the SEC in 2012, Mizzou has the 8th-best record of all SEC teams. They are 71-44 w/ a .620 Win % under Drink. This is better than the overall below. They can obviously compete in the SEC; they just have not made it over the hump yet. The SEC schedule leads to some very exciting matchups ups and the SEC also helps with recruiting, as it is the elite of the elite. There is zero reason to leave. You don't run away from your problems; you meet them head-on.

All-time SEC football records (2012–2024)
Team Overall Record Win %
Alabama 158–21 .883
Georgia 141–34 .805
LSU 113–50 .693
Texas A&M* 104–55 .654
Ole Miss 95–62 .605
Florida 95–66 .590
Auburn 89–68 .567
Missouri* 85–71 .545
Mississippi State 83–71 .539
Kentucky 83–78 .516
Tennessee 80–79 .503
South Carolina 77–81 .487
Vanderbilt 66–94 .413
Arkansas 60–93 .392
They're 55-57(assuming my math is right) in SEC play. Winning against the UMass, Central Ark, Kansas, etc is expected but that's not the measuring stick. They have had 4 good seasons(13,14,23,24) in 14 years in the SEC. They need to string about 4-6 of those in a row to really build the program beyond being considered anything more than the 7-10th best program in our own conference.
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Mizzoufan443 wrote: 17 Nov 2025 16:59 pm
Power74 wrote: 17 Nov 2025 13:57 pm I meant to add that it is the anti-Gary Pinkel. Pinkel's teams could be beaten but they never beat themselves. Always one of the best in the country in fewest penalties and turnover differential.
Along with great QB play, good special teams, good clock management.
Give Pinkel this year's team, and it's probably headed to the CFP.
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icon wrote: 19 Nov 2025 11:41 am
Mizzoufan443 wrote: 17 Nov 2025 16:59 pm
Power74 wrote: 17 Nov 2025 13:57 pm I meant to add that it is the anti-Gary Pinkel. Pinkel's teams could be beaten but they never beat themselves. Always one of the best in the country in fewest penalties and turnover differential.
Along with great QB play, good special teams, good clock management.
Give Pinkel this year's team, and it's probably headed to the CFP.
Welcome to 2025 guy. You’re nostalgia for Pinkel and the past is f’n your brain. Pinkel was a great coach, but you act like he won or competed for Natty’s.

Drink has been every bit as successful as Pinkel. Your disdain for what he has done for our program is weird
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