That's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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His job is to do the best for his clients. If you can't respect that then you're just partisan for the owners.Bomber1 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 11:11 amThat is mostly true.
Remember when he touted his client Barry Zito as a cinch Hall of Famer before the Giants stupidly signed him?
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Open the books, then we'll talk about what's good for the game.Jatalk wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 12:37 pmBut at end of the day the owners are to blame. No one has held a gun to their heads to make agreements with his players or any others.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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There is no sympathetic party here, you Mr. Fan are paying both the millionaire's salary and the billionaire's profit margin. By the way, while you are here Mr. Fan, would you mind buying my jersey, and upgrading this dump of a stadium. You don't seriously expect us to operate in this- Do you?CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:03 pmThat's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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By "Repair" the system what do you mean? Make the players subservient to the billionaire owners? Work in a conspiracy to hold down salaries? They already have a monopoly. People don't come out to see owners frolicking in the field, they come out to see the players perform athletic prowess. This fascination with blaming the players while feeling for the poor billionaire owners is kind of sickening. Especially when you can rationalize exactly houw much a "billion" dollars is. I have no sympathy for the owners whatsoever. Players deserve to have collective bargaining to maximize their limited time earning potential. I suspect that most of you in their positions would be loathe to leave millions on the table for "the good of the game". Especially when the owners have 7 yachts, 5 mansions, travel into space on joy rides, buy entire islands etc etc. But of course it's the player at fault. LOLAZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:18 pm Funny that people hate on Boras. He is NOT the reason salaries climbed. If he didn't exist other agents would have achieved the same result. He represents HIS clients as he should. The problem isn't the players, agents or even owners. It is ALL of them to have created this system that skews the game towards the wealthy teams and strips the poorer teams from any chance. That will hurt baseball long run.
2027 they have a chance to repair the system. I don't have much hope.
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No, you're paying. I choose to not reward a billionaire for trashing my favorite team. As for paying the players, I have no problem with that. They are after all the product that people want to consume. I don't have a problem with billionaire owners making some profit and I fully acknowledge that baseball has a problem with the haves and have nots. But screwing the players(product) isn't in my view fair. They deserve their piece of the pie. And since the owners won't show the whole pie, well, I choose common sense and fairness.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:09 pmThere is no sympathetic party here, you Mr. Fan are paying both the millionaire's salary and the billionaire's profit margin. By the way, while you are here Mr. Fan, would you mind buying my jersey, and upgrading this dump of a stadium. You don't seriously expect us to operate in this- Do you?CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:03 pmThat's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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Again, there are no sympathetic parties here. The owners are ridiculous for crying poverty and no, the players are not being screwed.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:18 pmNo, you're paying. I choose to not reward a billionaire for trashing my favorite team. As for paying the players, I have no problem with that. They are after all the product that people want to consume. I don't have a problem with billionaire owners making some profit and I fully acknowledge that baseball has a problem with the haves and have nots. But screwing the players(product) isn't in my view fair. They deserve their piece of the pie. And since the owners won't show the whole pie, well, I choose common sense and fairness.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:09 pmThere is no sympathetic party here, you Mr. Fan are paying both the millionaire's salary and the billionaire's profit margin. By the way, while you are here Mr. Fan, would you mind buying my jersey, and upgrading this dump of a stadium. You don't seriously expect us to operate in this- Do you?CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:03 pmThat's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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You problem need to ask yourself why other professional sports have hard salary caps, revenue sharing, etc.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:03 pmThat's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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Remember who the fans come out to see. The players were compromised into a system and they've responded by using the system as best they can. Now the renegotiation will commence and depending on the relationship there could be an extended lock down. Players have a finite amount of time to earn from their talents, whereas billionaires continue to build their wealth no matter what. I am sympathetic to the players. The players deserve their share of the pie and maybe the risk also. Make no mistake the owners are Goliath and the players are David.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:21 pmAgain, there are no sympathetic parties here. The owners are ridiculous for crying poverty and no, the players are not being screwed.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:18 pmNo, you're paying. I choose to not reward a billionaire for trashing my favorite team. As for paying the players, I have no problem with that. They are after all the product that people want to consume. I don't have a problem with billionaire owners making some profit and I fully acknowledge that baseball has a problem with the haves and have nots. But screwing the players(product) isn't in my view fair. They deserve their piece of the pie. And since the owners won't show the whole pie, well, I choose common sense and fairness.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:09 pmThere is no sympathetic party here, you Mr. Fan are paying both the millionaire's salary and the billionaire's profit margin. By the way, while you are here Mr. Fan, would you mind buying my jersey, and upgrading this dump of a stadium. You don't seriously expect us to operate in this- Do you?CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:03 pmThat's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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You assume much that I did not write. Try again without the assumptions.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:14 pmBy "Repair" the system what do you mean? Make the players subservient to the billionaire owners? Work in a conspiracy to hold down salaries? They already have a monopoly. People don't come out to see owners frolicking in the field, they come out to see the players perform athletic prowess. This fascination with blaming the players while feeling for the poor billionaire owners is kind of sickening. Especially when you can rationalize exactly houw much a "billion" dollars is. I have no sympathy for the owners whatsoever. Players deserve to have collective bargaining to maximize their limited time earning potential. I suspect that most of you in their positions would be loathe to leave millions on the table for "the good of the game". Especially when the owners have 7 yachts, 5 mansions, travel into space on joy rides, buy entire islands etc etc. But of course it's the player at fault. LOLAZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:18 pm Funny that people hate on Boras. He is NOT the reason salaries climbed. If he didn't exist other agents would have achieved the same result. He represents HIS clients as he should. The problem isn't the players, agents or even owners. It is ALL of them to have created this system that skews the game towards the wealthy teams and strips the poorer teams from any chance. That will hurt baseball long run.
2027 they have a chance to repair the system. I don't have much hope.
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The top end contracts have gotten to be ridiculous.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:28 pmRemember who the fans come out to see. The players were compromised into a system and they've responded by using the system as best they can. Now the renegotiation will commence and depending on the relationship there could be an extended lock down. Players have a finite amount of time to earn from their talents, whereas billionaires continue to build their wealth no matter what. I am sympathetic to the players. The players deserve their share of the pie and maybe the risk also. Make no mistake the owners are Goliath and the players are David.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:21 pmAgain, there are no sympathetic parties here. The owners are ridiculous for crying poverty and no, the players are not being screwed.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:18 pmNo, you're paying. I choose to not reward a billionaire for trashing my favorite team. As for paying the players, I have no problem with that. They are after all the product that people want to consume. I don't have a problem with billionaire owners making some profit and I fully acknowledge that baseball has a problem with the haves and have nots. But screwing the players(product) isn't in my view fair. They deserve their piece of the pie. And since the owners won't show the whole pie, well, I choose common sense and fairness.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:09 pmThere is no sympathetic party here, you Mr. Fan are paying both the millionaire's salary and the billionaire's profit margin. By the way, while you are here Mr. Fan, would you mind buying my jersey, and upgrading this dump of a stadium. You don't seriously expect us to operate in this- Do you?CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:03 pmThat's because you aren't pro player looking to get paid. If you were you'd have a different opinion. It always amazes me how you and your brethren get on here and defend to poor poor billionaire owners. LOL Seriously though, who do the fans come out to see? The billionaire owners or the players who perform on the field for them? Open the books.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
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Boras actually has access to each owners account and can withdrawal any amount of money he chooses…..the owner is helpless and must sign the contract placed in front of him by Boras….each owner is obligated to believe anything Boras tells them…..and they must believe or elsecrazya::AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:18 pm Funny that people hate on Boras. He is NOT the reason salaries climbed. If he didn't exist other agents would have achieved the same result. He represents HIS clients as he should. The problem isn't the players, agents or even owners. It is ALL of them to have created this system that skews the game towards the wealthy teams and strips the poorer teams from any chance. That will hurt baseball long run.
2027 they have a chance to repair the system. I don't have much hope.
This mystical power over some of the wealthiest smartest business people on the planet to do things they really do not wish to do will be studied for centuries
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Yeah funny stuff. The issue is hardly Boras or players or even the rich teams that pay huge salaries. The problem is an imbalance of revenues by the teams. They have to find a way to parity in the game or will lose many markets in the future. How? Heck I dunno.Goldfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 20:31 pmBoras actually has access to each owners account and can withdrawal any amount of money he chooses…..the owner is helpless and must sign the contract placed in front of him by Boras….each owner is obligated to believe anything Boras tells them…..and they must believe or elsecrazya::AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:18 pm Funny that people hate on Boras. He is NOT the reason salaries climbed. If he didn't exist other agents would have achieved the same result. He represents HIS clients as he should. The problem isn't the players, agents or even owners. It is ALL of them to have created this system that skews the game towards the wealthy teams and strips the poorer teams from any chance. That will hurt baseball long run.
2027 they have a chance to repair the system. I don't have much hope.![]()
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Um, that's his job as he deals with billionaires .Hoosier59 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 10:42 am Say what you want, but along with a few stupid owners, Scott Boras is mostly what is wrong with the system we currently have! Boras doesn’t care about the game in itself. All he is concerned about is putting money in his pocket. You can say, no his clients’ pockets, but the more they make the more he makes! He's just a former minor leaguer who couldn’t cut it and now is to get all he can get, no matter how much it damages the game!
Your injustice or anger is laughsble
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I know Bruce Levine the respected baseball writer here in Chicago won't talk with him anymore. He said that he used him to spread false rumors on things that weren't true awhile back. He won't report on anything from Boras anymore.
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Your response lacks substance. I asked what you meant by "Repair" - no response. Perhaps if you would elaborate on why the system is broken, who is at fault and what could be done to "repair" it , then I wouldn't have to make any "assumptions". Try again.AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:31 pmYou assume much that I did not write. Try again without the assumptions.CCard wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 16:14 pmBy "Repair" the system what do you mean? Make the players subservient to the billionaire owners? Work in a conspiracy to hold down salaries? They already have a monopoly. People don't come out to see owners frolicking in the field, they come out to see the players perform athletic prowess. This fascination with blaming the players while feeling for the poor billionaire owners is kind of sickening. Especially when you can rationalize exactly houw much a "billion" dollars is. I have no sympathy for the owners whatsoever. Players deserve to have collective bargaining to maximize their limited time earning potential. I suspect that most of you in their positions would be loathe to leave millions on the table for "the good of the game". Especially when the owners have 7 yachts, 5 mansions, travel into space on joy rides, buy entire islands etc etc. But of course it's the player at fault. LOLAZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 15:18 pm Funny that people hate on Boras. He is NOT the reason salaries climbed. If he didn't exist other agents would have achieved the same result. He represents HIS clients as he should. The problem isn't the players, agents or even owners. It is ALL of them to have created this system that skews the game towards the wealthy teams and strips the poorer teams from any chance. That will hurt baseball long run.
2027 they have a chance to repair the system. I don't have much hope.