Are the Blues ACTUALLY Any Better Run Than the Cardinals?
Bernie breaks down a growing St. Louis sports debate. Fans love comparing the St. Louis Blues and the St. Louis Cardinals, but are the Blues held to the same standard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx8cYCQvOZY&t=930s
Bernie's been reading Blues Talk
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Re: Bernie's been reading Blues Talk
This is a ridiculous argument. Over the last decade, the Blues have won the ultimate prize, been to the playoffs 80% of the time, conference finals a couple times, and they successfully pulled off a true "retool on the fly" without having to enter the dreaded rebuild the Cards are about to embark on.
As recently as 2022, I thought Mozeliak detractors were whiny nutjobs. Boy was I wrong. They saw the writing on the wall long before I did. Granted, the Blues farm leaves a little to be desired in young defensemen, but their immediate future should yield success much faster than the Cards.
I'm still not happy with the Bolduc trade but in comparsion to the endless line of debacles Mozeliak perpetrated with Aroz, Alcantara, Gallen, Ozuna, Adolis Garcia, Motter, Crawford, etc etc and then using the Cards management position as a training ground for unknown and unprovens that no one else in MLB would touch much less give extensions to so they're not "pressured to win" I say again, this is a ridiculous argument.
The last 7 years of Mozeliak and Co have been some of the most disastrous in Cardinals history.
As recently as 2022, I thought Mozeliak detractors were whiny nutjobs. Boy was I wrong. They saw the writing on the wall long before I did. Granted, the Blues farm leaves a little to be desired in young defensemen, but their immediate future should yield success much faster than the Cards.
I'm still not happy with the Bolduc trade but in comparsion to the endless line of debacles Mozeliak perpetrated with Aroz, Alcantara, Gallen, Ozuna, Adolis Garcia, Motter, Crawford, etc etc and then using the Cards management position as a training ground for unknown and unprovens that no one else in MLB would touch much less give extensions to so they're not "pressured to win" I say again, this is a ridiculous argument.
The last 7 years of Mozeliak and Co have been some of the most disastrous in Cardinals history.
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Re: Bernie's been reading Blues Talk
blackinkbiz wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 14:19 pm This is a ridiculous argument. Over the last decade, the Blues have won the ultimate prize, been to the playoffs 80% of the time, conference finals a couple times, and they successfully pulled off a true "retool on the fly" without having to enter the dreaded rebuild the Cards are about to embark on.
As recently as 2022, I thought Mozeliak detractors were whiny nutjobs. Boy was I wrong. They saw the writing on the wall long before I did. Granted, the Blues farm leaves a little to be desired in young defensemen, but their immediate future should yield success much faster than the Cards.
I'm still not happy with the Bolduc trade but in comparsion to the endless line of debacles Mozeliak perpetrated with Aroz, Alcantara, Gallen, Ozuna, Adolis Garcia, Motter, Crawford, etc etc and then using the Cards management position as a training ground for unknown and unprovens that no one else in MLB would touch much less give extensions to so they're not "pressured to win" I say again, this is a ridiculous argument.
The last 7 years of Mozeliak and Co have been some of the most disastrous in Cardinals history.
Bernie is extremely washed as a reporter. He doesn't have an individual thought of his own. He isn't connected anymore. He is working off the back of his past accomplishments and hoping it guides him into a soft retirement.
If you are comparing Cardinals baseball to Blues hockey, you deserve to lose all credibility as a sports journalist. One has/had (due to their incompetence) one of the top 5-10 franchises in their sport. Routinely finished top 4 in ticket sales and attendance. Had a massive fan draw because of KMOX. Has a huge history of winning and is a desired franchise for any player minus maybe 3-4 at any given moment to be a destination because of the teams history. The Cardinals during the early 2000s to 2015 was one of the best teams in Baseball year in and year our. Since 2016, the franchise has 0 to brag about. 3 90 win regular seasons and 1st outs in the 4 playoffs. That's a 10 year window of mediocrity at best.
The Blues in the same period have made a WCF, Won a Stanley Cup, are top 5 in the West in wins, have won a few playoffs rounds. What the F are you talking about Bernie. You are disgusting and a horrible personality at this stage in your career. You used to have some jam when you covered the Lambs. But since then you are irrelevant.
Re: Bernie's been reading Blues Talk
Blues have not been in the top five in wins since Army's first five years.callitwhatyouwant wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 14:39 pmblackinkbiz wrote: ↑17 Nov 2025 14:19 pm This is a ridiculous argument. Over the last decade, the Blues have won the ultimate prize, been to the playoffs 80% of the time, conference finals a couple times, and they successfully pulled off a true "retool on the fly" without having to enter the dreaded rebuild the Cards are about to embark on.
As recently as 2022, I thought Mozeliak detractors were whiny nutjobs. Boy was I wrong. They saw the writing on the wall long before I did. Granted, the Blues farm leaves a little to be desired in young defensemen, but their immediate future should yield success much faster than the Cards.
I'm still not happy with the Bolduc trade but in comparsion to the endless line of debacles Mozeliak perpetrated with Aroz, Alcantara, Gallen, Ozuna, Adolis Garcia, Motter, Crawford, etc etc and then using the Cards management position as a training ground for unknown and unprovens that no one else in MLB would touch much less give extensions to so they're not "pressured to win" I say again, this is a ridiculous argument.
The last 7 years of Mozeliak and Co have been some of the most disastrous in Cardinals history.
Bernie is extremely washed as a reporter. He doesn't have an individual thought of his own. He isn't connected anymore. He is working off the back of his past accomplishments and hoping it guides him into a soft retirement.
If you are comparing Cardinals baseball to Blues hockey, you deserve to lose all credibility as a sports journalist. One has/had (due to their incompetence) one of the top 5-10 franchises in their sport. Routinely finished top 4 in ticket sales and attendance. Had a massive fan draw because of KMOX. Has a huge history of winning and is a desired franchise for any player minus maybe 3-4 at any given moment to be a destination because of the teams history. The Cardinals during the early 2000s to 2015 was one of the best teams in Baseball year in and year our. Since 2016, the franchise has 0 to brag about. 3 90 win regular seasons and 1st outs in the 4 playoffs. That's a 10 year window of mediocrity at best.
The Blues in the same period have made a WCF, Won a Stanley Cup, are top 5 in the West in wins, have won a few playoffs rounds. What the F are you talking about Bernie. You are disgusting and a horrible personality at this stage in your career. You used to have some jam when you covered the Lambs. But since then you are irrelevant.
His last five counting this quarter. Army's between 20-25 in wins.
Also. We did not successfully do a re-tool or re-whatever.
Army successfully sold that to some fans of the blues. But not hockey fans.
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Re: Bernie's been reading Blues Talk
I do believe that Bernie is channelling ASOGG on this video.
Over the last week or more, I have been hitting the nail about who should rebuild the Blues... Hi Bernie. 
With this post, I'll give Bernie some more fuel..
1. Army did a recent retool and the team got significantly worse. Why give him another chance?
2. Upon the Bolduc trade, Army expected that Mailloux was ready to make the NHL roster. I believe that everyone on BluesTalk can see that that was a MASSIVELY POOR EVALUATION of talent. Not only was Mailloux not ready Day 1, there is at least a 50% chance that Mailloux never makes the Blues roster. Mailloux doesn't look anything like what Armstrong told us. For some prospects, this is explainable. Prospects bodies haven't grown fully. Prospects have not played with better competition. Prospects have not had NHL coaching, etc. This is NOT THE CASE with Mailloux. The BOOK ON MAILLOUX should have been clear as the nose on your face. Despite all of the relevant information being available, all the variables known, Army still performed a horrible evaluation of Mailloux. This reveals that scouting/coaching/talent evaluation under Army is very poor.
3. It is abundantly clear that the Blues are a complete mess. We have mediocre veteran talent locked in for 5+ more years. We have very little to be excited about in the prospect pool. We have needed a young 2C and a young RHD FOR YEARS, and we are no closer today than we ever were.
Does anyone want to hand that big cleanup to a ROOKIE GM--especially one trained by Army? That would be absolutely insane, and would further delay a return.
4. With the Army selections in the NHL draft, Army has powered other teams MUCH MORE than he has powered his own. There is a lack of young defenseman on the Blues rosters, but you will find young defenseman on other rosters doing well that the Blues drafted. Clearly Armstrong is not keeping the best because he is mis-evaluating what to keep versus let go.
With this post, I'll give Bernie some more fuel..
1. Army did a recent retool and the team got significantly worse. Why give him another chance?
2. Upon the Bolduc trade, Army expected that Mailloux was ready to make the NHL roster. I believe that everyone on BluesTalk can see that that was a MASSIVELY POOR EVALUATION of talent. Not only was Mailloux not ready Day 1, there is at least a 50% chance that Mailloux never makes the Blues roster. Mailloux doesn't look anything like what Armstrong told us. For some prospects, this is explainable. Prospects bodies haven't grown fully. Prospects have not played with better competition. Prospects have not had NHL coaching, etc. This is NOT THE CASE with Mailloux. The BOOK ON MAILLOUX should have been clear as the nose on your face. Despite all of the relevant information being available, all the variables known, Army still performed a horrible evaluation of Mailloux. This reveals that scouting/coaching/talent evaluation under Army is very poor.
3. It is abundantly clear that the Blues are a complete mess. We have mediocre veteran talent locked in for 5+ more years. We have very little to be excited about in the prospect pool. We have needed a young 2C and a young RHD FOR YEARS, and we are no closer today than we ever were.
Does anyone want to hand that big cleanup to a ROOKIE GM--especially one trained by Army? That would be absolutely insane, and would further delay a return.
4. With the Army selections in the NHL draft, Army has powered other teams MUCH MORE than he has powered his own. There is a lack of young defenseman on the Blues rosters, but you will find young defenseman on other rosters doing well that the Blues drafted. Clearly Armstrong is not keeping the best because he is mis-evaluating what to keep versus let go.