Schenn

[zuck698]

Let me say, I have always respected him and his play. But I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts are about his time as a Captain? This is the 3rd year in a row that we have started out flat, and this year is especially bad. I am not blaming him for the situation, but I am questioning what he could be doing, if anything, different to give this team a kick in the right direction. Maybe do a Bortuzzo on someone? I know one player is not responsible for this mess, but as a Captain, I feel he has a little more responsibilty here.

[theograce]

About the same as Backlund can do for Calgary. Similar rosters

[ManitobaBlues]

Who earns the C after Schenn? I do not see any other true leaders besides Binnington and Faulk.

[dtkblueshockey]

I don’t think Schenn is a bad captain. I think the issue is with the roster construction.

[bluetunehead]

I don’t think Schenn is a bad captain. I think the issue is with the roster construction.

Captains are not miracle workers. I don’t think he was the wrong choice. This is just a very mediocre team. They’re shouldn’t be *this* bad as we saw last spring, but that’s not his fault.

[dtkblueshockey]

I don’t think Schenn is a bad captain. I think the issue is with the roster construction.

Captains are not miracle workers. I don’t think he was the wrong choice. This is just a very mediocre team. They’re shouldn’t be *this* bad as we saw last spring, but that’s not his fault.

They are not even mediocre. They’re bad.

I agree he is not a miracle worker. He is likely doing all he can.

[zuck698]

I don’t think Schenn is a bad captain. I think the issue is with the roster construction.

Again, I never stated he was a bad Captain. I just think he is a pretty nice and level headed guy. Anything I have ever heard about him, he has always been even keel. I was just wondering if some "leader" in that room should go off on someone and I am not sure his demeanor allows for that. But I think they do need some kind of Bortuzzo moment to wake these guys out of their funk is all. Thomas and Faulk don't seem like the guys that get in someone's face wearing the A's. 55 is as nice as they come. That's why I think so much effort was put into Lucic hopefully making the team. They certainly didn't need him for his play on the ice, but you would have to think he could some get some guys attention in that locker room if push came to shove. Plus he probably has the ear and loyalty to Monty as well. We have changed players, we have changed coaches, but we have not changed the leadership inside the room for the last 3 years and that is what made me wonder what everyone's thoughts were on it.

[callitwhatyouwant]

when the new guys like a Hollywood, Suter, or Snuggy talk super highly of his leadership, thats about all you need to know. The bigger problem appears to be with existing players and their inability to be consistent game to game and play too much on feels. This isn't a Captain issue. Schenner's time as an offensive guy has clearly passed him. We have all been waiting for the end of the contract when the last 2 years he gets to be a 3rd liner and fit where he is supposed to. We are 1 year off that and the other guys don't seem to be allowing for that transition to happen.

[DawgDad]

when the new guys like a Hollywood, Suter, or Snuggy talk super highly of his leadership, thats about all you need to know. The bigger problem appears to be with existing players and their inability to be consistent game to game and play too much on feels. This isn't a Captain issue. Schenner's time as an offensive guy has clearly passed him. We have all been waiting for the end of the contract when the last 2 years he gets to be a 3rd liner and fit where he is supposed to. We are 1 year off that and the other guys don't seem to be allowing for that transition to happen.

This.

[hockey jedi]

Schenn is a great captain, but his lack of production is hurting, It's not his fault the Blues aren't playing well. I would hate to lose the person he is, but I want the Blues to manage their assets better. If we can get a blue chip prospect or high draft pick, then I am all for it.

[juan good eye]

I don’t think Schenn is a bad captain. I think the issue is with the roster construction.

Captains are not miracle workers. I don’t think he was the wrong choice. This is just a very mediocre team. They’re shouldn’t be *this* bad as we saw last spring, but that’s not his fault.

They are not even mediocre. They’re bad.

I agree he is not a miracle worker. He is likely doing all he can.

They’re a mediocre team playing bad.

[callitwhatyouwant]

Schenn is a great captain, but his lack of production is hurting, It's not his fault the Blues aren't playing well. I would hate to lose the person he is, but I want the Blues to manage their assets better. If we can get a blue chip prospect or high draft pick, then I am all for it.

I just don't see how you get a Blue chip prospect. Only people who have experience with Schenn are going to value Schenn at the moment. Toronto is the place is makes the most sense and there's not way we are getting anything back. And they aren't necessarily in a position to act aggressively with their injury situation. Toronto could very well say F It, and gamble and go all in next year. tank the year because they have the talent on roster but have injuries and then try to push next year.


The Blues aren't that makeup. They are still 2-3 years away from getting the young guys seasoned up enough to make strategic moves to better the team for a real playoff push. Last year they were 7-11. I expected them to be more like 6-9 this year. Turns out they are more in the last year model, and somehow a more talented across the board team is getting worse results. (kind of the same results as the start of last season to be honest. Bad home team, we will find out what they are like on the road here.)

[Cahokanut]

I think Schenn has been Army's loyal dog and when theres a problem with army, management, or in the room. I think he is the guy who takes it to the room.

I think his jealousy with teams skilled players and inability to accept what should of been his new role, two years ago, through today is as damaging to the team as coaches manic personality.

[bluetunehead]

I think Schenn has been Army's loyal dog and when theres a problem with army, management, or in the room. I think he is the guy who takes it to the room.

I think his jealousy with teams skilled players and inability to accept what should of been his new role, two years ago, through today is as damaging to the team as coaches manic personality.

That’s a take

[2forDiving]

I think Schenn has been Army's loyal dog and when theres a problem with army, management, or in the room. I think he is the guy who takes it to the room.

I think his jealousy with teams skilled players and inability to accept what should of been his new role, two years ago, through today is as damaging to the team as coaches manic personality.

Where’s this start? There has never been anyone that has even remotely hinted that there is any jealousy or envy or refusal on Schenn’s part to play whatever role.

The issue is Schenn is a 3rd line LW and I don’t think anything gets resolved by playing him outside of that role. I think they are far more likely to get better results with Suter between 25 and 81 or even 54. I just think it’s time to run with one of those options and then put the other C between Schenn and hopefully eventually Buch when Neighbours is back. Neither 10 or 89 have any business being in the top 6 currently other than the Neighbours’ injury. You cannot have 1/3 of your top 6 with less than 3 goals each this far into the season

[bgwinn01]

Neighbors will be the next captain.