bgwinn01 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 21:53 pm
How come other teams always seem to have a Zegras and we don’t ?
My 13 year old daughter asked the same thing after Zegras torched Binny. We just don’t have any guys that can do that.
not in the same way with the hands, but neighbours comes up with clever finishes in SO. He likes the 5 hole stuff when its open. It's funny that Kyrou never gets called on for that stuff. The most annoying part is Neighbours is our best guy.
But you would think the best guys on the team active would be Kyrou/Thomas/Snuggs. I know Schenn fumbled the bag the last time but he generally finds a decent shot by keeping it simple.
LewisL wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 pm
We had 7 players with less than 13 minutes. And why the heck was Schenn logged with 3rd most minutes of the forwards?
GM may need to step in here. Theres a blind spot (or two) on the staff and im not calling out the head coach either.
A lot of players sent down from the preseason I believe made the team. The vets are getting cover from the coaches and they need to sit. Id like to see Steen address this head on.
Pronger called out how soft the team is playing. You have to sit the vets that cannot set the tone. This isnt about a token fight, its about playing the man, holding rhe puck, taking a hit to make the play.
Sit the underperformers. Not just the whipping boy Kyrou.
This forum is like Taco John's after a tornado. You find something to chase and gripe about even though its not the right thing but by all means continue to do so and pile up in the drive thru when it re opens. How many goals did Buchy give up? Ya know who's slow? It's Binnington! Please!!!!
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:33 pm
This forum is like Taco John's after a tornado. You find something to chase and gripe about even though its not the right thing but by all means continue to do so and pile up in the drive thru when it re opens. How many goals did Buchy give up? Ya know who's slow? It's Binnington! Please!!!!
honestly this forum can't keep things in perspective either. We went from being a really bad team starting the year, to getting 6 of 8 points in our last 4. Sure we gave up 2 points by losing in OT in weird ways that you wish you wouldn't give up. But thats a 123 point pace. I'm going to be Ok with the play, especially if they figure out how to get points tomorrow. they do that, that is an impressive run. I'll be even more impressed if they figure out how to get it to 8-8-4. Still a long way away from finding an identity. But it's clear they can score goals in the 5 on 5 phase. And that's without their "big guns" doing a ton. 4 points out of a wild card spot and we aren't at thanksgiving yet.
LewisL wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 pm
We had 7 players with less than 13 minutes. And why the heck was Schenn logged with 3rd most minutes of the forwards?
GM may need to step in here. Theres a blind spot (or two) on the staff and im not calling out the head coach either.
A lot of players sent down from the preseason I believe made the team. The vets are getting cover from the coaches and they need to sit. Id like to see Steen address this head on.
Pronger called out how soft the team is playing. You have to sit the vets that cannot set the tone. This isnt about a token fight, its about playing the man, holding rhe puck, taking a hit to make the play.
Sit the underperformers. Not just the whipping boy Kyrou.
-x
I have to preface by saying I’m not a Buch basher. I thought the hate he got last year was unwarranted. However, that said, why he’s out there in OT and playing 1st line minutes with RT still is really vexing. He has 2 goals…let that sink in. Our top line winger has 2 goals. You can’t tell me that his PK prowess is so important that he can’t spend a game or two in the press box.
slimjay63801 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:33 pm
This forum is like Taco John's after a tornado. You find something to chase and gripe about even though its not the right thing but by all means continue to do so and pile up in the drive thru when it re opens. How many goals did Buchy give up? Ya know who's slow? It's Binnington! Please!!!!
I'd sit Binnington for a couple games or more. Hes one of the many vets on this team that needs to refocus.
Seriously, why cant we sit Buch. Schenn. Toro. Sunny. Parayko. Broberg. Crowd the press box. Sit the "unbenchable". Its never going to happen, but Id bring up half of the AHL club to deliver the message. You shouldn't have to fire the coach to get a team to play the right way, but you can bench half the team.
LewisL wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 pm
We had 7 players with less than 13 minutes. And why the heck was Schenn logged with 3rd most minutes of the forwards?
GM may need to step in here. Theres a blind spot (or two) on the staff and im not calling out the head coach either.
A lot of players sent down from the preseason I believe made the team. The vets are getting cover from the coaches and they need to sit. Id like to see Steen address this head on.
Pronger called out how soft the team is playing. You have to sit the vets that cannot set the tone. This isnt about a token fight, its about playing the man, holding rhe puck, taking a hit to make the play.
Sit the underperformers. Not just the whipping boy Kyrou.
-x
I have to preface by saying I’m not a Buch basher. I thought the hate he got last year was unwarranted. However, that said, why he’s out there in OT and playing 1st line minutes with RT still is really vexing. He has 2 goals…let that sink in. Our top line winger has 2 goals. You can’t tell me that his PK prowess is so important that he can’t spend a game or two in the press box.
I don't hate 89 either. Im rooting for him, but the puck is jumping off his stick.
He needs to sit a couple of games though. Its time.
LewisL wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 pm
We had 7 players with less than 13 minutes. And why the heck was Schenn logged with 3rd most minutes of the forwards?
GM may need to step in here. Theres a blind spot (or two) on the staff and im not calling out the head coach either.
A lot of players sent down from the preseason I believe made the team. The vets are getting cover from the coaches and they need to sit. Id like to see Steen address this head on.
Pronger called out how soft the team is playing. You have to sit the vets that cannot set the tone. This isnt about a token fight, its about playing the man, holding rhe puck, taking a hit to make the play.
Sit the underperformers. Not just the whipping boy Kyrou.
-x
I have to preface by saying I’m not a Buch basher. I thought the hate he got last year was unwarranted. However, that said, why he’s out there in OT and playing 1st line minutes with RT still is really vexing. He has 2 goals…let that sink in. Our top line winger has 2 goals. You can’t tell me that his PK prowess is so important that he can’t spend a game or two in the press box.
I'll preface that I've always liked Buch. But he's surely struggled overall this year. However, Buch has played well the past 2 games. Against Calgary he made a beauty pass setting up Thomas for a partial open net that RT posted instead of scored. He also had a nice shot that was labeled top corner that the goalie moved late to barely get a piece of. His overall game was strong. The Blues 5th goal tonighte doesn't happen if Buch doesn't tie the dman up behind the net. After the game, Pronger, who doesn't shy from criticizing players, remarked in his postgame comments how Buch was very active in the offensive zone and was a factor in the overall success of the first line tonight. From the postgame comments in this forum, Prongs and I saw a different game.
LewisL wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 pm
We had 7 players with less than 13 minutes. And why the heck was Schenn logged with 3rd most minutes of the forwards?
GM may need to step in here. Theres a blind spot (or two) on the staff and im not calling out the head coach either.
A lot of players sent down from the preseason I believe made the team. The vets are getting cover from the coaches and they need to sit. Id like to see Steen address this head on.
Pronger called out how soft the team is playing. You have to sit the vets that cannot set the tone. This isnt about a token fight, its about playing the man, holding rhe puck, taking a hit to make the play.
Sit the underperformers. Not just the whipping boy Kyrou.
-x
I have to preface by saying I’m not a Buch basher. I thought the hate he got last year was unwarranted. However, that said, why he’s out there in OT and playing 1st line minutes with RT still is really vexing. He has 2 goals…let that sink in. Our top line winger has 2 goals. You can’t tell me that his PK prowess is so important that he can’t spend a game or two in the press box.
I'll preface that I've always liked Buch. But he's surely struggled overall this year. However, Buch has played well the past 2 games. Against Calgary he made a beauty pass setting up Thomas for a partial open net that RT posted instead of scored. He also had a nice shot that was labeled top corner that the goalie moved late to barely get a piece of. His overall game was strong. The Blues 5th goal tonighte doesn't happen if Buch doesn't tie the dman up behind the net. After the game, Pronger, who doesn't shy from criticizing players, remarked in his postgame comments how Buch was very active in the offensive zone and was a factor in the overall success of the first line tonight. From the postgame comments in this forum, Prongs and I saw a different game.
And most of us on this forum are smart enough to know that not everything shows up on the stat sheet. I get it. But, in Buch’s case, it just doesn’t look like he’s hanging in there right now. He’s a step behind. I don’t need him to have point per game seasons or anything, but 2 goals and we’re 18 games into the season. Is my math wrong or is that a 9-10 goal pace? What the hell?
LewisL wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 pm
We had 7 players with less than 13 minutes. And why the heck was Schenn logged with 3rd most minutes of the forwards?
GM may need to step in here. Theres a blind spot (or two) on the staff and im not calling out the head coach either.
A lot of players sent down from the preseason I believe made the team. The vets are getting cover from the coaches and they need to sit. Id like to see Steen address this head on.
Pronger called out how soft the team is playing. You have to sit the vets that cannot set the tone. This isnt about a token fight, its about playing the man, holding rhe puck, taking a hit to make the play.
Sit the underperformers. Not just the whipping boy Kyrou.
-x
I have to preface by saying I’m not a Buch basher. I thought the hate he got last year was unwarranted. However, that said, why he’s out there in OT and playing 1st line minutes with RT still is really vexing. He has 2 goals…let that sink in. Our top line winger has 2 goals. You can’t tell me that his PK prowess is so important that he can’t spend a game or two in the press box.
I'll preface that I've always liked Buch. But he's surely struggled overall this year. However, Buch has played well the past 2 games. Against Calgary he made a beauty pass setting up Thomas for a partial open net that RT posted instead of scored. He also had a nice shot that was labeled top corner that the goalie moved late to barely get a piece of. His overall game was strong. The Blues 5th goal tonighte doesn't happen if Buch doesn't tie the dman up behind the net. After the game, Pronger, who doesn't shy from criticizing players, remarked in his postgame comments how Buch was very active in the offensive zone and was a factor in the overall success of the first line tonight. From the postgame comments in this forum, Prongs and I saw a different game.
And most of us on this forum are smart enough to know that not everything shows up on the stat sheet. I get it. But, in Buch’s case, it just doesn’t look like he’s hanging in there right now. He’s a step behind. I don’t need him to have point per game seasons or anything, but 2 goals and we’re 18 games into the season. Is my math wrong or is that a 9-10 goal pace? What the hell?
Agreed Buch has struggled overall this year. Clearly pressing with his shot. And maybe sitting for a game wouldn't be a bad idea just for a mental reset. However, he's played well 2 games in a row now. I'm not seeing what you and others in this forum are seeing tonight or the other night vs. Calgary. I understand the frustration with his brain farts. I understand the frustration with lack of production and the contract Army gave him. I understand the frustration with the Blues losing. I do not undertsand the post game comments about Buch in the forum tonight.
Its more than scoring. On defense, for the most part this game, the forwards were caught puck watching and not marking up. 89 was ALSO guilty of this. Hes not the only one.
For example, on the game tying 3rd goal, 89 is the extra forward that should have coverage at the point. Hes puck watching (with Thomas). Nobody marks the man up front (broberg, parayko), but still too much wood on a 3 on 5 from a defenseman. He should be at least close to contest the shot.
On anpther one of the goals againat buch has a break, misses the net, turns the puck over and it ends up in the back of the net. He had a chance to get it deep, but he softly loses it on the half boards and doesn't leg it out to the defensive end and body up.
Soft. Too soft. Veterans should be better than this. They get paid millions of dollars to be difference makers. Time to prove it.
