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ESPN quote from Bloom

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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/469 ... ed-sox#stl

Chaim Bloom, new president of baseball operations, faces similar decisions to what his predecessor John Mozaliek did at this time a year ago: what to do with Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray. The good news is there is more clarity for the players this time. Arenado is open to being moved and Gray could get there as well. They'll both have to waive their no-trade clauses, but Bloom indicated he and the players are on the same page, so when the return price is right, expect both to be traded.

As for the rest of his goals in his first offseason, it's about finding a group of players around which to construct the rest of the roster. The Cardinals have a few players in place but need more.

"It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." -- Rogers
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Honest question, does anyone ever recall Mo ever once stating that the goal is to compete for a World Series/have the talent and personnel to do so?
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mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:30 pm https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/469 ... ed-sox#stl

Chaim Bloom, new president of baseball operations, faces similar decisions to what his predecessor John Mozaliek did at this time a year ago: what to do with Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray. The good news is there is more clarity for the players this time. Arenado is open to being moved and Gray could get there as well. They'll both have to waive their no-trade clauses, but Bloom indicated he and the players are on the same page, so when the return price is right, expect both to be traded.

As for the rest of his goals in his first offseason, it's about finding a group of players around which to construct the rest of the roster. The Cardinals have a few players in place but need more.

"It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." -- Rogers
This sounds something like Sam Presti, the GM of the OKC Thunder, who went from one of the worst W-L records in the NBA to winning it all w/in a few seasons.
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"It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." --

Excellent statement. Card fans should not be confused about the end game - division and WS are the goals. Just being competitive is not an option. Means he will be going for quality and not quantity via dumpster diving, etc.

Takes the sting out of retaining Marmot, Blake, and the rest of the keystone cops.
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ilcubuffs wrote: 14 Nov 2025 16:25 pm "It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." --

Excellent statement. Card fans should not be confused about the end game - division and WS are the goals. Just being competitive is not an option. Means he will be going for quality and not quantity via dumpster diving, etc.

Takes the sting out of retaining Marmot, Blake, and the rest of the keystone cops.
Those changes may come after 2026. Bloom has only signaled marmol and staff finishing their current contracts.
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Banner29 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:44 pm Honest question, does anyone ever recall Mo ever once stating that the goal is to compete for a World Series/have the talent and personnel to do so?
Who is Mo ? Couldn't have been a very important FO guy , don't seem to remember a Mo guy ever saying anything about a World Series or our talent .
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okcardfan wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:51 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:30 pm https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/469 ... ed-sox#stl

Chaim Bloom, new president of baseball operations, faces similar decisions to what his predecessor John Mozaliek did at this time a year ago: what to do with Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray. The good news is there is more clarity for the players this time. Arenado is open to being moved and Gray could get there as well. They'll both have to waive their no-trade clauses, but Bloom indicated he and the players are on the same page, so when the return price is right, expect both to be traded.

As for the rest of his goals in his first offseason, it's about finding a group of players around which to construct the rest of the roster. The Cardinals have a few players in place but need more.

"It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." -- Rogers
This sounds something like Sam Presti, the GM of the OKC Thunder, who went from one of the worst W-L records in the NBA to winning it all w/in a few seasons.
And I believe Presti not only has a championship, but also still has a crazy amount of draft capital (three 1st round picks in 2026; three 1st round picks in 2027; three 2nd round picks in 2028; two 1st round picks in 2029; four 2nd picks in 2029; four 2nd round picks in 2030; etc.) over the next several years with which to keep it going.
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ilcubuffs wrote: 14 Nov 2025 16:25 pm "It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." --

Excellent statement. Card fans should not be confused about the end game - division and WS are the goals. Just being competitive is not an option. Means he will be going for quality and not quantity via dumpster diving, etc.

Takes the sting out of retaining Marmot, Blake, and the rest of the keystone cops.
Why get rid of them now? Next season and perhaps the following season are likely to be interrupted by a work stoppage. Why pay a new manager (and waste that much or their contract tenure) during that mess?

Additionally, why pay a new manager to manage a rebuilding season? Wait until the new "core" is ready\near-ready to be unleashed on the baseball world and then hire the best available manager to fit that specific group of players?

Unless there is a manager Bloom really, really can't live without, there is no sense replacing the current ML manager\coaching staff.
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The early returns on Bloom vs latter-day Mozeliak represent the difference between a POBO with a vision for what a mid-tier team needs in order to make serious playoff runs versus someone in year-to-year KLO mode (aka, "what is 'just enough' to amass ~ 84-85 victories and see what happens?") looks like.
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Banner29 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:44 pm Honest question, does anyone ever recall Mo ever once stating that the goal is to compete for a World Series/have the talent and personnel to do so?
MO didn't know that's what teams are supposed to do
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Banner29 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:44 pm Honest question, does anyone ever recall Mo ever once stating that the goal is to compete for a World Series/have the talent and personnel to do so?
Correct Mo said it was to get into the playoffs and to see what could happen. This is why we haven't been there for years. If you shoot low, you will land lower.
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okcardfan wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:51 pm
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Nov 2025 15:30 pm https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/469 ... ed-sox#stl

Chaim Bloom, new president of baseball operations, faces similar decisions to what his predecessor John Mozaliek did at this time a year ago: what to do with Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray. The good news is there is more clarity for the players this time. Arenado is open to being moved and Gray could get there as well. They'll both have to waive their no-trade clauses, but Bloom indicated he and the players are on the same page, so when the return price is right, expect both to be traded.

As for the rest of his goals in his first offseason, it's about finding a group of players around which to construct the rest of the roster. The Cardinals have a few players in place but need more.

"It's really about building our core to where we can get this organization back to where it needs to be," Bloom said. "Taking all the steps necessary and not taking shortcuts to build it back where we can compete for a division and a World Series." -- Rogers
This sounds something like Sam Presti, the GM of the OKC Thunder, who went from one of the worst W-L records in the NBA to winning it all w/in a few seasons.
May sound like him, but Presti made trades for actual talent and real usable draft picks, not just random prospects that another team was tired of. Bloom has a lot of work to do before he can be considered in the same breath as Presti.
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