Disappearing Salary

[rockondlouie]

2022 178m payroll. If Arenado and Gray leave and they eat half of Arenado they will still be around a $80m payroll with no additions. That could be 3 or 4 superstars which would make this roster a contender. There was no need to rebuild. This is a reduce spending for profit. Nothing else.

Bingo

Been saying this since 2024.

The "re-build" was just a cover story for BDWJr to slash payroll.

This doesn't imply the minor league system wasn't a total wreck pre-C. Bloom hiring, it was and BDWJr/MO are to blame.

But this "re-build" doesn't have to be a complete tear down it's what Dewitt wanted as he saw attendance slipping.

[Goldfan]

Some figures

Total 118004600

Pages 768300
Contreras 18000000
Donovan 5400000
Wynn 770850
Arenado 22000000 (no deferral discount given; should be 19000000)
Nootbar 5700000
Scott 764150
Burleson 3500000
Herrera 770300
Lineup Total 57673600

Pozo 760000
Saggese 760000
Gorman 2900000
Walker 770800
Bench Total 5190800

Gray 35000000 (not counting $5M 2027 buyout)
Mathews 760000
McGreevy 760000
Liberatore 2800000
Pallante 3400000
Starters Total 42720000

O'Brien 760450
Romero 4400000
Svanson 760000
Leahy 767000
King 2100000
Alcala 2100000
Fernandez 768600
Roycroft 764150
Bullpen Total 12420200

Remove Gray, NA, Donny……WC is only one making $$. So we’re the Pirates at this point

[Ozziesfan41]

Some figures

Total 118004600

Pages 768300
Contreras 18000000
Donovan 5400000
Wynn 770850
Arenado 22000000 (no deferral discount given; should be 19000000)
Nootbar 5700000
Scott 764150
Burleson 3500000
Herrera 770300
Lineup Total 57673600

Pozo 760000
Saggese 760000
Gorman 2900000
Walker 770800
Bench Total 5190800

Gray 35000000 (not counting $5M 2027 buyout)
Mathews 760000
McGreevy 760000
Liberatore 2800000
Pallante 3400000
Starters Total 42720000

O'Brien 760450
Romero 4400000
Svanson 760000
Leahy 767000
King 2100000
Alcala 2100000
Fernandez 768600
Roycroft 764150
Bullpen Total 12420200

Remove Gray, NA, Donny……WC is only one making $$. So we’re the Pirates at this point

I’m okay with them being gone it’s not like if they keep them they will help them win anything they’ve had them for years already and haven’t won anything with them so them being gone won’t make a difference

[ilcubuffs]

"So we’re the Pirates at this point"

Set low goals and fail to achieve.

MLB has Cherrington indicating the Pirates will spend: "but sources estimate it at roughly $30-40 million in payroll for 2026." IF the Pirates can afford $30-$40 M in spending you would think Wallet could at least match. IF not break out the car wash or bake sales.

[BrummerStealsHome]

Disappearing Salary

I'll take What Happens After You Get Married for $100, Alex

[45s]

2022 178m payroll. If Arenado and Gray leave and they eat half of Arenado they will still be around a $80m payroll with no additions. That could be 3 or 4 superstars which would make this roster a contender. There was no need to rebuild. This is a reduce spending for profit. Nothing else.

Bingo

Been saying this since 2024.

The "re-build" was just a cover story for BDWJr to slash payroll.

This doesn't imply the minor league system wasn't a total wreck pre-C. Bloom hiring, it was and BDWJr/MO are to blame.

But this "re-build" doesn't have to be a complete tear down it's what Dewitt wanted as he saw attendance slipping.

Good analysis…

and congrats on doing the right thing and cancelling those season tickets…

I urge others to follow your lead…