Kyrou hurt?

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

Kyrou is a decent player who has had a few good seasons putting up points. Not something we've been used to since what...the 90's? Too much is made of him because the fanbase is starved for a star player.

I suppose you never heard of Vladimir Tarasenko...you goofball. "90s"

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

I want all your opinions as I saw this in another hockey forum in Canada.

When the Blues drafted Kyrou 2nd round 2nd pick, I did not realize it until someone mentioned it. Alex Debrincat was drafted 2nd 9th pick so right now looking at each others careers although Alex played more games.

Kyrou to me was the better pick...your all thoughts ??

DeBrincat of course...he's more scrappy and he has a few fights on his resume.

[CANADABLUE]

The Blues should LTIR Kyrou for a psychological state reasons.

If and really If they did this I would bet this kid changes on a dime.

No change sit. ( do not think so)

If that is what he is after so be it.

Do the Blues save 80% of contract and insurance covers the rest? I think so not sure.

The hardest cases to prove and creates a quick easy out.

If he changes let the trade begin.

[sdaltons]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

[theograce]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

-9
12 hits
6 blocks

So good defensively.

[netboy65]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

[sdaltons]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

Lol that's blocked from my memory. But yes that was terrible. I didn't say he was great or anything.

I just meant he's trusted to kill penalties and such. Certainly not amazing at it. Meanwhile Kyrou can't even be trusted to do that.

[netboy65]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

Lol that's blocked from my memory. But yes that was terrible. I didn't say he was great or anything.

I just meant he's trusted to kill penalties and such. Certainly not amazing at it. Meanwhile Kyrou can't even be trusted to do that.

I’d like to see Monty throw him out there in a blowout one way or the other just to see. Maybe the responsibility would focus him. Certainly his speed would be nice.

[sdaltons]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

Lol that's blocked from my memory. But yes that was terrible. I didn't say he was great or anything.

I just meant he's trusted to kill penalties and such. Certainly not amazing at it. Meanwhile Kyrou can't even be trusted to do that.

I’d like to see Monty throw him out there in a blowout one way or the other just to see. Maybe the responsibility would focus him. Certainly his speed would be nice.

Agree with that. I think it could force him to think a little differently.

I was very encouraged when he made that real nice backchecking play and then went down and scored earlier in the year. Thought he might get a taste of what he can do when he's aggressive defensively. Doesn't seem to have stuck, though.

[bud white]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

... and from all indications, Buchy took that loss harder than anyone else in the room. THAT'S the guy I want on my team.

Frankly, I think that's why he's had a slow start. As much as anyone, he's really squeezing the stick.

[Harry York 37]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

Game 7 in Winnipeg was one panicked play for Buch.

It was a 30 plus parade of shifts of not caring for Kyrou. I take it back- he cared about not getting hit again... and succeeded quite nicely..

He got called out on network TV for it, and he still skates with the Blues.
You can hold onto hope, and see signs of encouragement here and there.

Keep dreaming.
Do you, truly, not see how he plays the game? Two Jack Adams- level Coaches have.

[Ziggy3]

I'm far from a Kyrou apologist, but what amount of blame does coaching deserve for his situation right now?

At some point don't you have to realize and accept what he is? If he's going to be on the roster (and to be clear, wouldn't upset me if he wasn't), he has to be a producer. And a finnicky, streaky player like he is has to be in the right spot to produce. So far we've never seen him in a better spot to do that than when he was with Holloway last season, and almost from the drop that idea was abandoned and has only come intermittently since.

As good as they were last year, why on earth wouldn't you give them at least a few games' leash to start to gel again? Have we even seen them together consistently for more than like half a game? Seems like it could be a classic example of overcoaching...

[netboy65]

he didnt want him on the ice to mess up


But, there are others who are bringing nothing and continue to get 18+ minutes a night.



hello pavel b and thomas

Buch still is a strong forechecker and he's reliable in his own end. Neither can be said about Kyrou.

Game 7 in Winnipeg says hello

Game 7 in Winnipeg was one panicked play for Buch.

It was a 30 plus parade of shifts of not caring for Kyrou. I take it back- he cared about not getting hit again... and succeeded quite nicely..

He got called out on network TV for it, and he still skates with the Blues.
You can hold onto hope, and see signs of encouragement here and there.

Keep dreaming.
Do you, truly, not see how he plays the game? Two Jack Adams- level Coaches have.

It was far from one for Buch, that was just the one in the spotlight.
I see how he scores if that’s what you mean.

[desertrat23]

I'm far from a Kyrou apologist, but what amount of blame does coaching deserve for his situation right now?

At some point don't you have to realize and accept what he is? If he's going to be on the roster (and to be clear, wouldn't upset me if he wasn't), he has to be a producer. And a finnicky, streaky player like he is has to be in the right spot to produce. So far we've never seen him in a better spot to do that than when he was with Holloway last season, and almost from the drop that idea was abandoned and has only come intermittently since.

As good as they were last year, why on earth wouldn't you give them at least a few games' leash to start to gel again? Have we even seen them together consistently for more than like half a game? Seems like it could be a classic example of overcoaching...

Yeah, he is who he is. And if we're going to blame a coach, which one? Seems like Craig Berube and Drew Bannister have already been blamed.

[BluesDom]

Kyrou will produce 67-75 points each year. He's proven it. Hes old enough and has done it enough. Hes proven imo.
He is going to bounce back. Hes not as bad as we make him out to be. Blues are almost at rock bottom. No where to go but up. (IMHO)

Go Blues.
Kyrou will start scoring starting today imo. It all starts now. Lets F'in Go Boys!!
He's not hurt imo. Blues need a couple wins and they need to roll the same lines and it will start clicking.

[Ziggy3]

I'm far from a Kyrou apologist, but what amount of blame does coaching deserve for his situation right now?

At some point don't you have to realize and accept what he is? If he's going to be on the roster (and to be clear, wouldn't upset me if he wasn't), he has to be a producer. And a finnicky, streaky player like he is has to be in the right spot to produce. So far we've never seen him in a better spot to do that than when he was with Holloway last season, and almost from the drop that idea was abandoned and has only come intermittently since.

As good as they were last year, why on earth wouldn't you give them at least a few games' leash to start to gel again? Have we even seen them together consistently for more than like half a game? Seems like it could be a classic example of overcoaching...

Yeah, he is who he is. And if we're going to blame a coach, which one? Seems like Craig Berube and Drew Bannister have already been blamed.

Seems pretty obvious I'm talking about the current coach who seems reluctant to go with what's already given him the most success??

That said, looks like we've got Holloway - Dvorsky - Kyrou to start tonight, so let's go. Hope they get more than the 1st period to get something going.