Drinks actual record against ranked teams

[winonsports]

Not true unless maybe they are just counting a team's SEC record? For example, we beat TEN in 2023 who was 7-2 at the time and finished at 9-4 and ranked 17th. BUT were only 4-4 in the SEC that year.

Not sure if I want to do all of that math over 6 seasons.

A top 20 team with a .500 conference record.

Only in the SEC

[Armchair QB]

Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

[woofy25]

Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

Yeah that’s a lot. There is no indication they have a QB1, the oline stinks. You can blame the coaching if you want. Maybe it’s the players and they need to complexity overhaul the defense. It’s a ton of work. Plus they have much tougher schedule next season

[Armchair QB]

Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

Yeah that’s a lot. There is no indication they have a QB1, the oline stinks. You can blame the coaching if you want. Maybe it’s the players and they need to complexity overhaul the defense. It’s a ton of work. Plus they have much tougher schedule next season

Yeah the schedule is a wildcard for sure. We could be better and have a worse record.

[Rvrartst]

I've said this elsewhere, but Mizzou's record against ranked teams, and against top 10 teams, is only one way to look at it, and probably not the best way. The best way to look at it in my opinion is, what is Mizzou's record against teams ranked lower than them, versus against teams ranked higher? And that is at the time they played. Do they beat the teams they are supposed to beat? Do they lose to teams that are lower ranked? Do they pull off upsets against higher ranked teams?

It seems to me that Mizzou performs mostly as they are expected to. They beat the teams they are expected to beat, and lose when they are underdogs. And yes, sometimes when they beat a team ranked higher, that team turns out to have been overrated. You can factor that into the equation. The problem is, with a team like Mizzou that's not a blueblood, you don't reach the elite level until you beat some teams ranked higher than you are.

[woofy25]

Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

Yeah that’s a lot. There is no indication they have a QB1, the oline stinks. You can blame the coaching if you want. Maybe it’s the players and they need to complexity overhaul the defense. It’s a ton of work. Plus they have much tougher schedule next season

Yeah the schedule is a wildcard for sure. We could be better and have a worse record.

I’m struggling to see how they’re better. Help me out

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Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

Yeah that’s a lot. There is no indication they have a QB1, the oline stinks. You can blame the coaching if you want. Maybe it’s the players and they need to complexity overhaul the defense. It’s a ton of work. Plus they have much tougher schedule next season

Yeah the schedule is a wildcard for sure. We could be better and have a worse record.

I’m struggling to see how they’re better. Help me out

It's kind of impossible to see at this point before transfers happen in and out.

[Armchair QB]

Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

Yeah that’s a lot. There is no indication they have a QB1, the oline stinks. You can blame the coaching if you want. Maybe it’s the players and they need to complexity overhaul the defense. It’s a ton of work. Plus they have much tougher schedule next season

Yeah the schedule is a wildcard for sure. We could be better and have a worse record.

I’m struggling to see how they’re better. Help me out

Next year? We could return the best running back tandem in the country with a couple other studs right behind them. Very good tight ends and receivers. And hopefully an established and more seasoned QB ready to lead all that skill position talent. Coaching is the wildcard and getting the O Line where it needs to be. Defensively I trust what we’ve become year in and year out to be at a minimum very solid. We should have our stud kicker back.

We absolutely could be better next year. But the schedule is going to be a major challenge.

[11WSChamps]

You get the right QB and everything else takes care of itself.

That's the way of the game now.

QB, playmakers on offense edge rushers on defense.

Give me those and I'll take my chances.

[rezero]

I've said this elsewhere, but Mizzou's record against ranked teams, and against top 10 teams, is only one way to look at it, and probably not the best way. The best way to look at it in my opinion is, what is Mizzou's record against teams ranked lower than them, versus against teams ranked higher? And that is at the time they played. Do they beat the teams they are supposed to beat? Do they lose to teams that are lower ranked? Do they pull off upsets against higher ranked teams?

It seems to me that Mizzou performs mostly as they are expected to. They beat the teams they are expected to beat, and lose when they are underdogs. And yes, sometimes when they beat a team ranked higher, that team turns out to have been overrated. You can factor that into the equation. The problem is, with a team like Mizzou that's not a blueblood, you don't reach the elite level until you beat some teams ranked higher than you are.

I understand your point, but if Mizzou was the second worst team in the SEC and only beat the worst team, then Mizzou would be playing to their expected position even though it is horrendous. If we want to be one of the top teams in the country we have to beat everyone not just the people below us.

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I've said this elsewhere, but Mizzou's record against ranked teams, and against top 10 teams, is only one way to look at it, and probably not the best way. The best way to look at it in my opinion is, what is Mizzou's record against teams ranked lower than them, versus against teams ranked higher? And that is at the time they played. Do they beat the teams they are supposed to beat? Do they lose to teams that are lower ranked? Do they pull off upsets against higher ranked teams?

It seems to me that Mizzou performs mostly as they are expected to. They beat the teams they are expected to beat, and lose when they are underdogs. And yes, sometimes when they beat a team ranked higher, that team turns out to have been overrated. You can factor that into the equation. The problem is, with a team like Mizzou that's not a blueblood, you don't reach the elite level until you beat some teams ranked higher than you are.

I understand your point, but if Mizzou was the second worst team in the SEC and only beat the worst team, then Mizzou would be playing to their expected position even though it is horrendous. If we want to be one of the top teams in the country we have to beat everyone not just the people below us.

Very true. And it's way past time to raise expectations of a coach making $9 million per year. Raise the bar. Stoops at UK got to this level and receded.

[ex-submariner]

I've said this elsewhere, but Mizzou's record against ranked teams, and against top 10 teams, is only one way to look at it, and probably not the best way. The best way to look at it in my opinion is, what is Mizzou's record against teams ranked lower than them, versus against teams ranked higher? And that is at the time they played. Do they beat the teams they are supposed to beat? Do they lose to teams that are lower ranked? Do they pull off upsets against higher ranked teams?

It seems to me that Mizzou performs mostly as they are expected to. They beat the teams they are expected to beat, and lose when they are underdogs. And yes, sometimes when they beat a team ranked higher, that team turns out to have been overrated. You can factor that into the equation. The problem is, with a team like Mizzou that's not a blueblood, you don't reach the elite level until you beat some teams ranked higher than you are.

I understand your point, but if Mizzou was the second worst team in the SEC and only beat the worst team, then Mizzou would be playing to their expected position even though it is horrendous. If we want to be one of the top teams in the country we have to beat everyone not just the people below us.

Very true. And it's way past time to raise expectations of a coach making $9 million per year. Raise the bar. Stoops at UK got to this level and receded.

And we are currently ranked below James Madison of the Sun Belt Conference. This is acceptable?

Come on guys, let's beat one good team this year and I'll be happy. Guess that's going to have to be Oklahoma.

Let's win all three!

[winonsports]

Mizzou is #20 on the power index and James Madison is #47, which translates to.the Tigers being a 7 point favorite vs the Dukes on a neutral field

[fatlaz]

Would you rather have Shane Beamer or Al Onafrio as head coach? Their teams beat higher ranked teams.

[woofy25]

Just saw something that was alarming if it’s accurate. Drinkwitz has the worst record of any SEC coach in his time at Mizzou vs conference opponents with winning records. It said he’s 0-15.

What’s amazing is he’s avoided bad losses though. He rarely if ever loses against teams with a losing record.

We all knew (or should have known) this was a rebuilding year coming in. It’ll be a grind for this team to finish 7-5. That would be disappointing given the 5-0 start, but it’s possible.

If Drink wants to change the narrative coming into next season, he needs to go 3-0 the rest of the season and win the bowl game. I don’t think many will think about his record against SEC teams with a winning record if he wins at OU and finishes 10-3. That’ll take a serious turnaround for the coaching staff in the passing game.

Rebuilding year? They have an elite defense. This was no rebuilding year. People don’t want to hear but next year is the rebuilding year if anything. The defense is losing a ton. However, there is a strong case to be made that the transfer portal should not allow for rebuilds.

I kind of agree, but we had to do almost a complete reset on offense. That’ll happen from time to time. But we brought in plenty of talent to score way more than we have been. The coaching on offense has been subpar at best and the O Line coaching / play is the main culprit.

IF we keep all our talent that would be coming back, add a few dudes and get our OLine where it should be, and fix the coaching problems, our offense will return LOADED next year. Several “ifs” but we’ll at least have the horses.

Yeah that’s a lot. There is no indication they have a QB1, the oline stinks. You can blame the coaching if you want. Maybe it’s the players and they need to complexity overhaul the defense. It’s a ton of work. Plus they have much tougher schedule next season

Yeah the schedule is a wildcard for sure. We could be better and have a worse record.

I’m struggling to see how they’re better. Help me out

Next year? We could return the best running back tandem in the country with a couple other studs right behind them. Very good tight ends and receivers. And hopefully an established and more seasoned QB ready to lead all that skill position talent. Coaching is the wildcard and getting the O Line where it needs to be. Defensively I trust what we’ve become year in and year out to be at a minimum very solid. We should have our stud kicker back.

We absolutely could be better next year. But the schedule is going to be a major challenge.

Unless Pribulas hand as hurt before the name injury, there is no reason to feel comfortable with the QB1 position.
All of this is moot anyway bc Drink is likely leaving.