Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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An Old Friend
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Re: Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 11 Nov 2025 11:04 am
An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 10:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 10:01 am
An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 09:44 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 08:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:39 am
Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:36 am So, which STL hitters achieve good outcomes in all 3? And which achieve good outcomes in 2?
Good question. Who has the best nonchase rate. Who hits the ball more often. Where does it go when hit.

Nado hits the ball often; up in the air on the infield. So contact rate alone won’t get it.
Seems pretty clear he’s telegraphing that Gorman and Walker will be traded….. :lol: :lol:
Gorman seems to have two of the three traits - 1 and 3.
Poor pitch selection, very poor contact, power when he’s lucky enough to get the low middle in pitch….. I don’t think that cuts it
He’s 50th percentile in chase rate and 85th percentile in walk rate. His pitch selection certainly isn’t “poor”.
You obviously haven't been watching him play the past few years.
So you're disputing which data, specifically? And the evidence you're choosing to submit is your own eye ball test?
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Re: Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 09:44 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 08:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:39 am
Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:36 am So, which STL hitters achieve good outcomes in all 3? And which achieve good outcomes in 2?
Good question. Who has the best nonchase rate. Who hits the ball more often. Where does it go when hit.

Nado hits the ball often; up in the air on the infield. So contact rate alone won’t get it.
Seems pretty clear he’s telegraphing that Gorman and Walker will be traded….. :lol: :lol:
Gorman seems to have two of the three traits - 1 and 3.
Correct.
Very strong with traits one and three
Draws a lot of walks.
Does severe damage when he connects.
Perhaps the best in the team in those categories.
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Re: Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 11:33 am
An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 09:44 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 08:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:39 am
Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:36 am So, which STL hitters achieve good outcomes in all 3? And which achieve good outcomes in 2?
Good question. Who has the best nonchase rate. Who hits the ball more often. Where does it go when hit.

Nado hits the ball often; up in the air on the infield. So contact rate alone won’t get it.
Seems pretty clear he’s telegraphing that Gorman and Walker will be traded….. :lol: :lol:
Gorman seems to have two of the three traits - 1 and 3.
Correct.
Very strong with traits one and three
Draws a lot of walks.
Does severe damage when he connects.
Perhaps the best in the team in those categories.
One huge issue remains for Gorman. His propensity for striking out. It's excessive. Even for a slugger.
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Re: Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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Shady wrote: 11 Nov 2025 11:47 am
Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 11:33 am
An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 09:44 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 08:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:39 am
Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:36 am So, which STL hitters achieve good outcomes in all 3? And which achieve good outcomes in 2?
Good question. Who has the best nonchase rate. Who hits the ball more often. Where does it go when hit.

Nado hits the ball often; up in the air on the infield. So contact rate alone won’t get it.
Seems pretty clear he’s telegraphing that Gorman and Walker will be traded….. :lol: :lol:
Gorman seems to have two of the three traits - 1 and 3.
Correct.
Very strong with traits one and three
Draws a lot of walks.
Does severe damage when he connects.
Perhaps the best in the team in those categories.
One huge issue remains for Gorman. His propensity for striking out. It's excessive. Even for a slugger.
Wow, how were you able to decipher that he was missing trait 2 so astutely?
Cardinals4Life
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Re: Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 11:18 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 11 Nov 2025 11:04 am
An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 10:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 10:01 am
An Old Friend wrote: 11 Nov 2025 09:44 am
Goldfan wrote: 11 Nov 2025 08:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:39 am
Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:36 am So, which STL hitters achieve good outcomes in all 3? And which achieve good outcomes in 2?
Good question. Who has the best nonchase rate. Who hits the ball more often. Where does it go when hit.

Nado hits the ball often; up in the air on the infield. So contact rate alone won’t get it.
Seems pretty clear he’s telegraphing that Gorman and Walker will be traded….. :lol: :lol:
Gorman seems to have two of the three traits - 1 and 3.
Poor pitch selection, very poor contact, power when he’s lucky enough to get the low middle in pitch….. I don’t think that cuts it
He’s 50th percentile in chase rate and 85th percentile in walk rate. His pitch selection certainly isn’t “poor”.
You obviously haven't been watching him play the past few years.
So you're disputing which data, specifically? And the evidence you're choosing to submit is your own eye ball test?
I am saying he swings at balls like it's his job. Watch the games.
Shady
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Re: Bloom : 3 big things hitters do ..

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Melville wrote: 11 Nov 2025 06:36 am So, which STL hitters achieve good outcomes in all 3? And which achieve good outcomes in 2?
Alec Burleson has made improvement in #1. He probably achieves "good outcomes" in all 3.
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