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[Younghopp1991]

With the 20 game threshold coming up after this week.
Nov 11 cal
Nov 14 phi
Nov 15 veg
Nov 18 tor

Very possible we walk out of that with 2 points and 15 in 20 games.
We could also do better. At almost the quarter season mark what are some of your thoughts on the team this season, what you would like for them to do this season (push for wild card, sell assets and retool, trade specific assets due to philosophical differences/hockey trade)
I know the topic has been beat to death in this early season but its just the way of the season.

[Zizzle1297]

if we are doing poorly by January 1st Id honestly start Selling Buch, Faulk, Kyrou, Schenn. Maybe even CP 55 if the return is great.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

if we are doing poorly by January 1st Id honestly start Selling Buch, Faulk, Kyrou, Schenn. Maybe even CP 55 if the return is great.

- I can agree with Buch, as he’s so badly in decline, that it should have happened before his extension. He’s got 6 points and is an abysmal -9 for the season.
- I’m torn on Faulk. While he gets a lot of hate, he’s been pretty good this year. The only players with more points this season than Faulk are Thomas, Kyrou and Suter. And he’s a currently a -2 on the team with the worst goal differential in the league. So, maybe sell high?? My issue is we have no depth on RD, so who takes his place unless the fans truly want to embrace a bottom 5 finish this season??
- Schenn is your Captain. I think Steen will see himself in Schenn as an overpaid guy who slides down the lineup in his last two seasons, but still plays a role. With that said, he could bring a decent return from a desperate team like Toronto, EDM, COL, NJ, etc….
- Again, torn on Kyrou. Despise his compete level, but he’s shown to be a consistent 30 goal scorer. We need offense. Return would be underwhelming (Bolduc says hi).
- I’m not trading Parayko. He’s one of only 3 quality Dman on the team and is still a heckuva player. He bleeds Blue and I hope he retires a Blue.

Others - Sunny and Joseph should be on the block for teams looking for depth. Won’t get much other than a draft pick, but those are good capital for other trades or moving up in next seasons draft.

[Bacchk29]

Buyout Sunny Joseph Texier after putting them thought waivers. Put Kessel on waivers to send him down. Bring up Kasimaki Stenberg Lindstein and whatever forward who’s performing preferably with speed. Let’s start there. Need to purge some dead weight off the roster. Should have been done in the offseason.

[Harry S Deals]

Id be looking at moving:

Binnie
Schenn
Buchnevich
Joseph
Texier

Trying to collect more 1st rounders and/or a blue chipper or two


I dont know if the Blues view Stenberg or Lindstein as NHL ready i could see Peterson or Kaskimaki put into a bottom 6 role

[dhsux]

TDL is almost 4 months away.

For now you push the team to find their game.

[callitwhatyouwant]

The 20 game mark is my starting point for, if the team isn't playing the right way, don't expect it to change. So the Blues basically have 4 games to get their game right. If there's still scuffling after that, it aint changing.

The Christmas holiday signals whether or not you have a chance to play. if you arent .500 by the new year, you don't get to call yourself a fringe playoff team.

I'm not flipping anything at 20 games, but I'm changing the clubs direction. If the vets aren't playing well and driving play, everyone is being rolled out there evenly. The return of LM into the lineup full time, you get rid of a couple of your 1 year guys who you don't think are going to be part of the future. And you start cycling the young guys in and giving them big league roster time and they get the same shifts no matter what the score is.

If the team is continually trending where it's flirting top 10 in 5 on 5 expected play, and you start getting results, then you stay the course because sample size is your problem. The Blues are at a very strange crux right now when they enter the 20 game. While they haven't had a win streak, they now have a point streak going. If they can keep that going, it can turn around.

[Frank Underwood]

TDL is almost 4 months away.

For now you push the team to find their game.

Agreed……but need to do it fast.

For the record, Hockey Feed (which sucks) floating the “Leafs interested in Schenn” rumors. Guessing Berube is close to striking out with that bunch up there, so I can absolutely believe he would love to have Schenn. I think it’s too early to be trading your captain, but if the Blues still look like this in a few weeks, it’s time.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/lea ... bBlCQU3_FQ

[netboy65]

If you tear it down and trade Schenn, Faulk, and whoever else, then you absolutely have to get the biggest haul for Parayko you can get. Not that I want him gone, but if you’re tearing it down he’ll be of zero use to us by the time we contend again, so get while the getting is good.

[moose-and-squirrel]

TDL is almost 4 months away.

For now you push the team to find their game.

Agreed……but need to do it fast.

For the record, Hockey Feed (which sucks) floating the “Leafs interested in Schenn” rumors. Guessing Berube is close to striking out with that bunch up there, so I can absolutely believe he would love to have Schenn. I think it’s too early to be trading your captain, but if the Blues still look like this in a few weeks, it’s time.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/lea ... bBlCQU3_FQ

since he's no longer playing center, a bit less of a risk to move him

[BalotelliMassive]

Buyout Sunny Joseph Texier after putting them thought waivers. Put Kessel on waivers to send him down. Bring up Kasimaki Stenberg Lindstein and whatever forward who’s performing preferably with speed. Let’s start there. Need to purge some dead weight off the roster. Should have been done in the offseason.

100%

[callitwhatyouwant]

If you tear it down and trade Schenn, Faulk, and whoever else, then you absolutely have to get the biggest haul for Parayko you can get. Not that I want him gone, but if you’re tearing it down he’ll be of zero use to us by the time we contend again, so get while the getting is good.

I just don't see them tearing it down. They have been a fringe playoff team for 2 seasons in a row. We weren't eliminated until very late 2 years ago and would have qualified on the east. If I am management, tearing it down to the studs when you are about to call up a few young guys that you have been developing for the last 2-3 years seems dumb.

What I do think happens is they take a canvas of the situation, tried to read the locker room and make a trade. I don't think fans are going to like the result of that because it's going to be trading perceived value for nothing. If there really is a "non compete" atmosphere from a couple of the star players like Kyrou (the team doesn't seem to hint at that, just the coaches) then you might see like a Kyrou and xyz buddy get dealt for next to nothing. People will then complain why did that happen. They are going to try and shake up the locker room culture without impeding the future of the young guys.

I don't think you start seeing Schenn, Faulk, Binner etc until next year when all of their deals start getting to the last year or 2 years left. They will start being dealt at the end if things don't turn around. But atm, Faulk provides more value here than you get it. Binner is going to be given the option to retire as a Blue most likely since Ellis got stolen.

[Younghopp1991]

I know that guys get excited(including myself) about chances of a high pick but this topic should be about capitalizing on opportunities, being smart with money and who you give it to, and personality/identity. If we indeed have 15 points at the 20 game mark we would need to play at a 65.3% pace the rest of the season just to get back to 96 points.
My opinion is that there is a obvious problem on the team. We do not know exactly what it is but this team has way too distant of extremes.
•do what you have to do to open some roster spots(texier,joseph) neither is the problem. Joeseph may have some interest as a depth guy. Texier is whatever.

Its not productive to be racking up losses with joseph, texier, bjug.

[Bacchk29]

If you tear it down and trade Schenn, Faulk, and whoever else, then you absolutely have to get the biggest haul for Parayko you can get. Not that I want him gone, but if you’re tearing it down he’ll be of zero use to us by the time we contend again, so get while the getting is good.

Problem there is, Parayko has the cards. You have to hope he doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild and uproot the family.

[callitwhatyouwant]

If you tear it down and trade Schenn, Faulk, and whoever else, then you absolutely have to get the biggest haul for Parayko you can get. Not that I want him gone, but if you’re tearing it down he’ll be of zero use to us by the time we contend again, so get while the getting is good.

Problem there is, Parayko has the cards. You have to hope he doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild and uproot the family.

For me there are 3 players that have earned the right to do what they want on this team, when you factor in their remaining contracts etc... Parayko gets to decide if he wants to be a lifelong Blue. If you play a whole career for a team, typically you are going to be apart of a rebuild at some point. He gets that choice. Binner next year basically gets the option to continue on (unless HOFER absolutely cremates him and steals the crease over the next 1.5 years) to extend as a Blue for his last contract or be traded to a real cup contender who seemingly a goalie boost could do wonders like an Oil. The last person is Thomas. No matter what iteration of your team you are in, Thomas helps. Even if he isn't the future 1C (he is) he's still an extremely valuable person with 6 years left on his contract. He gets to stay if we are in last place or 1st place.

After that, business is business. you have to look at their contracts and see if they are worth more to you than someone else. I circle back around tho, I think this is going to come down to us trading 1 high profile person out of the org, and 1 middling person and it's going to be for next to no return. That will be the option they go with if they feel like this isn't working out. Our cap is going to be really really good the next few years. They have room to pivot. But, they aren't going to tear it down nor should they. Too many young guys now and coming up to just rip it apart.

[Bacchk29]

If you tear it down and trade Schenn, Faulk, and whoever else, then you absolutely have to get the biggest haul for Parayko you can get. Not that I want him gone, but if you’re tearing it down he’ll be of zero use to us by the time we contend again, so get while the getting is good.

Problem there is, Parayko has the cards. You have to hope he doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild and uproot the family.

For me there are 3 players that have earned the right to do what they want on this team, when you factor in their remaining contracts etc... Parayko gets to decide if he wants to be a lifelong Blue. If you play a whole career for a team, typically you are going to be apart of a rebuild at some point. He gets that choice. Binner next year basically gets the option to continue on (unless HOFER absolutely cremates him and steals the crease over the next 1.5 years) to extend as a Blue for his last contract or be traded to a real cup contender who seemingly a goalie boost could do wonders like an Oil. The last person is Thomas. No matter what iteration of your team you are in, Thomas helps. Even if he isn't the future 1C (he is) he's still an extremely valuable person with 6 years left on his contract. He gets to stay if we are in last place or 1st place.

After that, business is business. you have to look at their contracts and see if they are worth more to you than someone else. I circle back around tho, I think this is going to come down to us trading 1 high profile person out of the org, and 1 middling person and it's going to be for next to no return. That will be the option they go with if they feel like this isn't working out. Our cap is going to be really really good the next few years. They have room to pivot. But, they aren't going to tear it down nor should they. Too many young guys now and coming up to just rip it apart.

Why is anybody safe on this roster? You’re extending players because they won a Cup 7 years ago. How does an aging Binner or Parayko help this team going forward? I don’t get the thought process. If business is business, there’s no loyalty to a bottom 5 franchise.