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OldRed
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Platinum Glove

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"Platinum Glove" Award, which took all of the winners of that year's Gold Glove Award and allowed fans to vote on one winner from each league to earn the Platinum Glove. In 2025, the American League winner was Kansas City Royals shortstop Bobby Witt Jr., while the National League award went to San Diego Padres right fielder Fernando Tatis Jr. However, if statistics had been involved, St. Louis Cardinals shortstop Masyn Winn would likely have been on the short list for this award.
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OldRed wrote: 09 Nov 2025 08:26 am "Platinum Glove" Award, which took all of the winners of that year's Gold Glove Award and allowed fans to vote on one winner from each league to earn the Platinum Glove. In 2025, the American League winner was Kansas City Royals shortstop Bobby Witt Jr., while the National League award went to San Diego Padres right fielder Fernando Tatis Jr. However, if statistics had been involved, St. Louis Cardinals shortstop Masyn Winn would likely have been on the short list for this award.
As you stated, ‘fans allowed to vote’. If you polled fans nationally, who has more name recognition Tatis Jr. or Winn.
There is your answer. Very few ‘fans’ consider thr stats.
If ‘fans’ were the voters for Gold Glove Mookie Betts would likely be the GG shortstop too .
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ramfandan wrote: 09 Nov 2025 08:34 am
OldRed wrote: 09 Nov 2025 08:26 am "Platinum Glove" Award, which took all of the winners of that year's Gold Glove Award and allowed fans to vote on one winner from each league to earn the Platinum Glove. In 2025, the American League winner was Kansas City Royals shortstop Bobby Witt Jr., while the National League award went to San Diego Padres right fielder Fernando Tatis Jr. However, if statistics had been involved, St. Louis Cardinals shortstop Masyn Winn would likely have been on the short list for this award.
As you stated, ‘fans allowed to vote’. If you polled fans nationally, who has more name recognition Tatis Jr. or Winn.
There is your answer. Very few ‘fans’ consider thr stats.
If ‘fans’ were the voters for Gold Glove Mookie Betts would likely be the GG shortstop too .
In our youth it was always a who are you. Who who. That went universal. Most winners of many things was a mere popularity contest.
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Nick Allen.
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I agree on knowing league talent. But every team had its stack. Coaches kid, assistant coaches kid, sponsor kid, carry over kid, etc.

By the time you get to a draft half the league is already selected. Who’s who.
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I am old enough to remember 1957 fiasco when Cincinnati fans ‘stuffed’ the fan voting and voted 7 of 9 Reds players to starting spots.
Think Musial was exception but Commissioner stepped in and said Willie Mays and Hank Aaron deserved spots.
A real mess !
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Fan voting for awards has always been a joke. It's one thing for the All Star game, an exhibition for fans enjoyment, but not for awards.

Compare the 2008 Hank Aaron award winner for the NL:

Aramis Ramirez .289/.380/.518/.898 with 27 homers and 111 RBIs

Albert Pujols .357/.462/.653/1.114 37 homers and 116 RBIs

So how did Ramirez win this award?
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sp25 wrote: 09 Nov 2025 12:24 pm Fan voting for awards has always been a joke. It's one thing for the All Star game, an exhibition for fans enjoyment, but not for awards.

Compare the 2008 Hank Aaron award winner for the NL:

Aramis Ramirez .289/.380/.518/.898 with 27 homers and 111 RBIs

Albert Pujols .357/.462/.653/1.114 37 homers and 116 RBIs

So how did Ramirez win this award?
Is there anyone out there who has “Pujols-ian” numbers? Maybe that’s all there is anymore.
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Compare the 2008 Hank Aaron award winner for the NL:
I can truthfully say I've never given one single rat about the Hank Aaron award. No idea who the current winner is, but you made me look up the voting method.

From wiki, each MLB team's radio and TV play-by-play broadcasters and color analysts voted for three players in each league. Their first-place vote receives five points, the second-place vote receives three points, and the third-place vote receives one point.

Fans vote too but they account for only 30 percent of the vote with the voices getting the other 70.

So your gripe should be with the dimwits behind the microphones.
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Managers, coaching staffs, and players should be the ones voting on post season awards. Leave the fans out. Most dont follow close enough to make an educated vote. And leave the media out. Too many of them have a bias or ax to grind.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Nov 2025 21:02 pm Managers, coaching staffs, and players should be the ones voting on post season awards. Leave the fans out. Most dont follow close enough to make an educated vote. And leave the media out. Too many of them have a bias or ax to grind.
see the hatred for Albert Belle
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