Buchevich has not scored an ES goal in 18 games

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Re: Buchevich has not scored an ES goal in 18 games

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smilinjoefission wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:22 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:20 pm
smilinjoefission wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:17 pm Other than the nice playoffs he had (which is meaningless since Fowler had a great playoffs and he's playing like a sack of used jocks now) Buch has been progressively worse EVERY SEASON since we acquired him, yet Army felt the need to give him a chubby contract...so yes blame Buch, but also blame Army for making him 100% untradeable.
I don’t think he played well in the playoffs at all.

He has scored an ES goal in one game out of 27 in his playoff career. That’s pathetic
19 playoff games, 19 points...don't care how he gets them, they all count. Then again that's meaningless with a team not making the playoffs.
Well…I care. There’s lots of variables in that. His play wasn’t good for me. Not trying to change your mind though
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Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
He will bounce back. This is the worst it gets imo. He will regress back to the mean.

I could easily hate on the guy. What is the point?

Last year 65 points in 86 games.
Yr Prior 63 in 80
67pts in 63 games
87p in 84 games in 21-22

How do you knock that production? He's a star here. Whether he's a Russian or Goofy or having a (bleep) start. He has been great as a blue. No arguing. Coach has to find the optimal lines again and fix chemistry of the team imo.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
Based on what what? Because he had some secondary assists? He can’t score. It’s a huge problem.

Craig Janney was bad in the playoffs…yet he was ppg.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
He will bounce back. This is the worst it gets imo. He will regress back to the mean.

I could easily hate on the guy. What is the point?

Last year 65 points in 86 games.
Yr Prior 63 in 80
67pts in 63 games
87p in 84 games in 21-22

How do you knock that production? He's a star here. Whether he's a Russian or Goofy or having a (bleep) start. He has been great as a blue. No arguing. Coach has to find the optimal lines again and fix chemistry of the team imo.
Problem is, the “right now” has been happening for about two years. He’s been absolutely brutal. Army screwed this up badly.
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theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:49 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
Based on what what? Because he had some secondary assists? He can’t score. It’s a huge problem.

Craig Janney was bad in the playoffs…yet he was ppg.
Hes not the guy. But he is a creator and he sparks the offense. Hes not just collecting points by accident.
How can you just discount his point totals?
He is an assist man who can score.

I know Janney had good numbers. I watched him play in HS days but cant remember him.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:57 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:49 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
Based on what what? Because he had some secondary assists? He can’t score. It’s a huge problem.

Craig Janney was bad in the playoffs…yet he was ppg.
Hes not the guy. But he is a creator and he sparks the offense. Hes not just collecting points by accident.
How can you just discount his point totals?
He is an assist man who can score.

I know Janney had good numbers. I watched him play in HS days but cant remember him.
Sparks the offense? We see the game differently. Terrible 1st line player who doesn’t generate or even get SOG for that matter. You play with Thomas and cant even get shots…lol ok then
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theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:59 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:57 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:49 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
Based on what what? Because he had some secondary assists? He can’t score. It’s a huge problem.

Craig Janney was bad in the playoffs…yet he was ppg.
Hes not the guy. But he is a creator and he sparks the offense. Hes not just collecting points by accident.
How can you just discount his point totals?
He is an assist man who can score.

I know Janney had good numbers. I watched him play in HS days but cant remember him.
Sparks the offense? We see the game differently. Terrible 1st line player who doesn’t generate or even get SOG for that matter. You play with Thomas and cant even get shots…lol ok then
He is a pass first winger.
Still managed 103 regular season goals in 4 seasons. He will pick it up.
He is a very hateable guy--I get it. Hes unique--good second liner--shouldnt be on top line imo. Overpaid--not horribly--he should be 6.5 mil in my opinion on shorter deal. It is what it is.

464 pts in 608 games.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 15:02 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:59 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:57 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:49 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
Based on what what? Because he had some secondary assists? He can’t score. It’s a huge problem.

Craig Janney was bad in the playoffs…yet he was ppg.
Hes not the guy. But he is a creator and he sparks the offense. Hes not just collecting points by accident.
How can you just discount his point totals?
He is an assist man who can score.

I know Janney had good numbers. I watched him play in HS days but cant remember him.
Sparks the offense? We see the game differently. Terrible 1st line player who doesn’t generate or even get SOG for that matter. You play with Thomas and cant even get shots…lol ok then
He is a pass first winger.
Still managed 103 regular season goals in 4 seasons. He will pick it up.
He is a very hateable guy--I get it. Hes unique--good second liner--shouldnt be on top line imo. Overpaid--not horribly--he should be 6.5 mil in my opinion on shorter deal. It is what it is.
He has scored a playoff goal at ES once in his life in the playoffs and is pushing 31 years old.

Saying he sparks offense holds no water. Doesn’t hit, doesn’t block. He is a black hole on a 1st line.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 13:07 pm I will make a wager with you. I think he scores at least 59 points or more this season. Winner gets a dollar.

If it’s under 59 you win.
I’ll take that bet. Doesn’t even have to be for a $1, just a friendly wager. Statistically through 15 games, he’s on pace for a 32 point season. He is a bottom 6 forward at best and I don’t he gets anywhere near 60. 50 will be a stretch and an accomplishment for him right now.
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theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 15:10 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 15:02 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:59 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:57 pm
theograce wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:49 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Nov 2025 14:46 pm Buch is goofy. Plenty to dislike right now. However..His body of work in Saint Louis Including the playoffs has been very good.
Based on what what? Because he had some secondary assists? He can’t score. It’s a huge problem.

Craig Janney was bad in the playoffs…yet he was ppg.
Hes not the guy. But he is a creator and he sparks the offense. Hes not just collecting points by accident.
How can you just discount his point totals?
He is an assist man who can score.

I know Janney had good numbers. I watched him play in HS days but cant remember him.
Sparks the offense? We see the game differently. Terrible 1st line player who doesn’t generate or even get SOG for that matter. You play with Thomas and cant even get shots…lol ok then
He is a pass first winger.
Still managed 103 regular season goals in 4 seasons. He will pick it up.
He is a very hateable guy--I get it. Hes unique--good second liner--shouldnt be on top line imo. Overpaid--not horribly--he should be 6.5 mil in my opinion on shorter deal. It is what it is.
He has scored a playoff goal at ES once in his life in the playoffs and is pushing 31 years old.

Saying he sparks offense holds no water. Doesn’t hit, doesn’t block. He is a black hole on a 1st line.
His shot seems to have really left him. Both accuracy and force. A few years back he actually made some high end shots that were goals. I haven't seen that player this year or last.
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Does he make it 20 straight games tonight?

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He’s gonna hit 20 lol
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How is this guy in the lineup next game lol
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0 shots
0 hits
0 blocks

8 million
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I dont know how anyone can defend Buch right now. He can’t pass or take a pass, he can’t clear the zone, and he doesn’t hit anyone. And he can’t hit the net when he does get a chance.
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Pavel Buchnevich in Russian must mean where "Offense goes to die"! This guy is like a 'Cooler" at a black jack table. These announcers keep going on, and apparently Monty too, about he plays an honest game defensively! What? He can't even clear the zone again, just like shades of game 7. And he was never a great skater, but it is like he is skating in quicksand. I think Milan might skate faster!
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