Stupid simple. Amen and amen.Harry York 37 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 11:39 amAmen.Army's Mom wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:59 amIf theyre hounding pucks amd putting in that level of effort, the offense will tend to fix itself. Its when they focus on offense first that this team seems to get in trouble.Harry York 37 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 09:39 amI understand your concern, Dawg, but the Blues have been a gutless bunch of paycheck collectors for too long this season.DawgDad wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 03:37 amWoke up in middle of the night here.Harry York 37 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 02:39 amYou should just watch All-Star games.Bacchk29 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 02:23 amGames like tonight I wouldn’t pay $5 to watch. Top 9 producing zero. Hofer stood on his head. How many nights do you think you’re getting a goal and assist out of Joseph? You’re not making the playoffs playing that way - you’re headed for a top 5 pick.Harry York 37 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2025 02:18 amThey shut em out 3-0 and punctuated the win with a perfect ENG.
Are you sad that they played a tight, and very closely checked game where they all demonstrated that having a consistent, team-wide high compete level will win a hockey game?
I will trade high power scoring for well-played low scoring victory every time.
They have All-Star Games for showboating.
Games like tonight showcase how to play the complete game in all three zones.
Games like tonight win playoff series.
Our top nine did their part to keep their top nine completely off the score sheet.
I guess defense doesn’t sizzle much on highlight reels.
It was a joy to wath the Blues smother a team for so many minutes.
Harry, of course a team needs to win games like this when the circumstances dictate. This game occurred in the context of a season-long dysfunctional mess the they are trying to crawl out of, so there are positive things to take away. Two points. But the game the night before happened, too, and right now the top-9 guys are a dysfunctional mess even in this shutout victory. That in no way reflected a team playing top-notch all-round hockey. Any team with enough offensive talent firing on enough cylinders to score a league average three goals beats the Blues. Would they even have to break a sweat to contain the Blues offense?
I'm good with them refocusing on the team defense, that needs to be played as an instinctive norm, but if the team doesn't start clicking offensively, fixing the forecheck and zone time and finishing issues, they will remain a cellar-dweller.
You cannot force scoring, it has to come naturally. You must play a tight checking game when you are without the puck so that you are never in a position of having to come from behind. When that happens- as the Oil learned after three straight losses to open the Cup Final in 24, you DO begin to force your offense, which results in falling even further behind most of the time.
Tight checking defense always forces bad turnovers and that is how the Blues generated almost all of their offense last night. That is also how the Oil came back to even the series with Florida.
The top nine will wake up. As long as we are not giving games away, we will stay very competitive.
Kyrou is emblematic of this. When he back checks (or sits for someone who will), they can find enough goals to win. If they keep it up, it will force other teams to adjust, allowing more room for creative playmaking on offense.
When Kyrou pouts or floats, they get caught watching teams with superior talent or effort blow by them.
Blues did quite well without Kyrou
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Good for you.netboy65 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 19:03 pmThat’s a big yes for meHarry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 18:28 pmHave you asked yourself how it has come to pass that the Blues find it hard to get a great player in return for Kyrou?Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 17:13 pmThat’s not an answer. Who’s out there that you can get?desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 16:28 pmYou think that’s completely impossible to find? The guy’s not Connor McDavid.Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 14:17 pm Thought I would bump an existing thread because we don’t need another thread about Kyrou being a cancer or loafing or whatever. For all the geniuses who want to trade him, how do you propose we replace the 30 goals and 70 points a year we lose because you won’t get equal value for him. Asking for a friend.
Does the answer you find mean that we are better off keeping him?
Now, would you please share with class why you think the Blues have had hard time finding a great player in return for him?
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Who says they’re looking? A couple fan blogs?Harry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 20:18 pmGood for you.netboy65 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 19:03 pmThat’s a big yes for meHarry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 18:28 pmHave you asked yourself how it has come to pass that the Blues find it hard to get a great player in return for Kyrou?Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 17:13 pmThat’s not an answer. Who’s out there that you can get?desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 16:28 pmYou think that’s completely impossible to find? The guy’s not Connor McDavid.Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 14:17 pm Thought I would bump an existing thread because we don’t need another thread about Kyrou being a cancer or loafing or whatever. For all the geniuses who want to trade him, how do you propose we replace the 30 goals and 70 points a year we lose because you won’t get equal value for him. Asking for a friend.
Does the answer you find mean that we are better off keeping him?
Now, would you please share with class why you think the Blues have had hard time finding a great player in return for him?
Re: Blues did quite well without Kyrou
Blues indeed did quite well without him.
Did you see him do a look back at the bench after he scored his goal tonight and went through the celly?
Like he was saying to Monty “see, I’m a goal scorer”.
Yeah, [fork] that floaty little [kittycat]. Give him 4 more games, after he thinks the heat has died down ,and you’ll see him avoiding hits like they’re poison, won’t be trying hard. Just like before
My God, why they didn’t move him before the no trade clause kicked in is baffling. Just look at his history!!
I actually hopes he plays an outstanding 3 or 4 games so that maybe some team will want to take a chance with him.
Did you see him do a look back at the bench after he scored his goal tonight and went through the celly?
Like he was saying to Monty “see, I’m a goal scorer”.
Yeah, [fork] that floaty little [kittycat]. Give him 4 more games, after he thinks the heat has died down ,and you’ll see him avoiding hits like they’re poison, won’t be trying hard. Just like before
My God, why they didn’t move him before the no trade clause kicked in is baffling. Just look at his history!!
I actually hopes he plays an outstanding 3 or 4 games so that maybe some team will want to take a chance with him.
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What hit me tonight is how disjointed the lines get from a puck handling standpoint. With all of the hockey that Thomas, Kyrou and Buch have played together you’d think
they could anticipate each other. I’m thinking Hull
And Oates, Sutter and Federko and others. Kyrou even tonight was sloppy on his passes. He loves to backhand flip the puck to no one or drop pass to no one. He skates in and then doesn’t know what to do with the puck so
He just gets rid of it. The only two I see clicking to
a large degree is Dvorsky and Snuggs.
they could anticipate each other. I’m thinking Hull
And Oates, Sutter and Federko and others. Kyrou even tonight was sloppy on his passes. He loves to backhand flip the puck to no one or drop pass to no one. He skates in and then doesn’t know what to do with the puck so
He just gets rid of it. The only two I see clicking to
a large degree is Dvorsky and Snuggs.
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they were shopping him, and it is not coming from Fan Blogs. Use Googlenetboy65 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 20:22 pmWho says they’re looking? A couple fan blogs?Harry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 20:18 pmGood for you.netboy65 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 19:03 pmThat’s a big yes for meHarry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 18:28 pmHave you asked yourself how it has come to pass that the Blues find it hard to get a great player in return for Kyrou?Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 17:13 pmThat’s not an answer. Who’s out there that you can get?desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 16:28 pmYou think that’s completely impossible to find? The guy’s not Connor McDavid.Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 14:17 pm Thought I would bump an existing thread because we don’t need another thread about Kyrou being a cancer or loafing or whatever. For all the geniuses who want to trade him, how do you propose we replace the 30 goals and 70 points a year we lose because you won’t get equal value for him. Asking for a friend.
Does the answer you find mean that we are better off keeping him?
Now, would you please share with class why you think the Blues have had hard time finding a great player in return for him?
Re: Blues did quite well without Kyrou
As good as some think Army is, he hasn’t found a comparable player to trade Kyrou for. It’s the whole point of the argument. Many want to the trade him but never say what the Blues would get in return. The team doesn’t score as it is , but you wanna give away 70-80 points a year because he’s this cancer or floats. I love the guys talent but if we could trade him I would because the fanbase in general hates players who aren’t “200 ft” guys. It’s been proven in the past.Harry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 20:18 pmGood for you.netboy65 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 19:03 pmThat’s a big yes for meHarry York 37 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 18:28 pmHave you asked yourself how it has come to pass that the Blues find it hard to get a great player in return for Kyrou?Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 17:13 pmThat’s not an answer. Who’s out there that you can get?desertrat23 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 16:28 pmYou think that’s completely impossible to find? The guy’s not Connor McDavid.Bacchk29 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2025 14:17 pm Thought I would bump an existing thread because we don’t need another thread about Kyrou being a cancer or loafing or whatever. For all the geniuses who want to trade him, how do you propose we replace the 30 goals and 70 points a year we lose because you won’t get equal value for him. Asking for a friend.
Does the answer you find mean that we are better off keeping him?
Now, would you please share with class why you think the Blues have had hard time finding a great player in return for him?