Why is DeWitt so cash-strapped?

[Cranny]

2006 MLB National TV contract annual
643mil
2025
1.8bil

2006 Cards local TV contract
29mil
2025
58mil

Avg ticket price 2006
$40

2025
$85

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

[OldRed]

2006 MLB National TV contract annual
643mil
2025
1.8bil

2006 Cards local TV contract
29mil
2025
58mil

Avg ticket price 2006
$40

2025
$85

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

[WLTFE]

Red...some people's lack of self awareness is astounding!

[riff raff]

Simp alert

[Cranny]

2006 MLB National TV contract annual
643mil
2025
1.8bil

2006 Cards local TV contract
29mil
2025
58mil

Avg ticket price 2006
$40

2025
$85

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

Not really. Just human nature. Again, Red, that question I asked you before. Whom do you think is the Cardinals top outfield prospect in the minors? Important, since much of the future strength must come from within the improved system.

[OldRed]

2006 MLB National TV contract annual
643mil
2025
1.8bil

2006 Cards local TV contract
29mil
2025
58mil

Avg ticket price 2006
$40

2025
$85

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

Not really. Just human nature. Again, Red, that question I asked you before. Whom do you think is the Cardinals top outfield prospect in the minors? Important, since much of the future strength must come from within the improved system.

I'm not an expert on the minor league players, but I think Chase Davis may have a real future. What does that have to do you knowing so much about DNA? And we don't know if it will be an improved system until they see results in the Majors.

[Rojo Johnson]

Either Cranny is a BDW insider, which I seriously doubt (people that wealthy would never spend the time he does on this forum arguing about so many mundane things), or he just loves the attention he gets on this forum. Arguing as he does about the need for cash flow/profit when he can’t possibly know what makes Bill and his partners click is silly. It’s all based on his personal view of the world and investing. He loves money too much to own a sports franchise and certainly he puts a price tag on being a civic booster. Everything is about profit to him and nothing is about boosting the mood and image of the city that gave him the obscenely large bank account is important to him. Sad.

[Cranny]

2006 MLB National TV contract annual
643mil
2025
1.8bil

2006 Cards local TV contract
29mil
2025
58mil

Avg ticket price 2006
$40

2025
$85

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

Not really. Just human nature. Again, Red, that question I asked you before. Whom do you think is the Cardinals top outfield prospect in the minors? Important, since much of the future strength must come from within the improved system.

I'm not an expert on the minor league players, but I think Chase Davis may have a real future. What does that have to do you knowing so much about DNA? And we don't know if it will be an improved system until they see results in the Majors.

Red - The Cardinals had high hopes for Chase Davis when they drafted him out of the U. of Arizona in the 1st round in 2023. Unfortunately he's struggled somewhat and hasn't quite lived up to his potential. He was at Springfield all season this year and slashed .242/.358/.353/.711. In 494 PAs he had 16 doubles, hit 10 home runs, and stole 9 bases. Joshua Baez was
drafted out of high school in Massachusetts in 2021. He caught fire this season. Started out at Peoria and was promoted to Springfield after only 38 games. For the season he slashed .287/.384/.500/.884. In 499 plate appearances he had 23 doubles, 20 home runs, and stole 54 bases. His OPS was basically the same at Springfield as it was at Peoria. His OPS at Springfield was .883. Davis OPS was .711 at the same level. Davis is another left handed bat. Baez is a right handed bat.

For a big man, Baez has shown both power and speed. He's 6'3", 220 lbs. If he keeps developing, he could be the corner outfielder we've been looking for. I would probably rate him the #1 outfielder in the system right now - a power right handed bat that many posters have been clamoring for.

I fully know that minor league numbers aren't a 100% assurance that a player will excel at the ML level. At the same time,
I'd rather have a player tearing it up as he comes through the system than meh.

I also know that the majority of major league Cardinal players in the future will be players coming through our system.
I can track them. I can't (and won't) track the illusive multiple potential FA signings or possible trade targets.

[OldRed]

Avg ticket price 2006
$40

2025
$85

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

Not really. Just human nature. Again, Red, that question I asked you before. Whom do you think is the Cardinals top outfield prospect in the minors? Important, since much of the future strength must come from within the improved system.

I'm not an expert on the minor league players, but I think Chase Davis may have a real future. What does that have to do you knowing so much about DNA? And we don't know if it will be an improved system until they see results in the Majors.

Red - The Cardinals had high hopes for Chase Davis when they drafted him out of the U. of Arizona in the 1st round in 2023. Unfortunately he's struggled somewhat and hasn't quite lived up to his potential. He was at Springfield all season this year and slashed .242/.358/.353/.711. In 494 PAs he had 16 doubles, hit 10 home runs, and stole 9 bases. Joshua Baez was
drafted out of high school in Massachusetts in 2021. He caught fire this season. Started out at Peoria and was promoted to Springfield after only 38 games. For the season he slashed .287/.384/.500/.884. In 499 plate appearances he had 23 doubles, 20 home runs, and stole 54 bases. His OPS was basically the same at Springfield as it was at Peoria. His OPS at Springfield was .883. Davis OPS was .711 at the same level. Davis is another left handed bat. Baez is a right handed bat.

For a big man, Baez has shown both power and speed. He's 6'3", 220 lbs. If he keeps developing, he could be the corner outfielder we've been looking for. I would probably rate him the #1 outfielder in the system right now - a power right handed bat that many posters have been clamoring for.

I fully know that minor league numbers aren't a 100% assurance that a player will excel at the ML level. At the same time,
I'd rather have a player tearing it up as he comes through the system than meh.

I also know that the majority of major league Cardinal players in the future will be players coming through our system.
I can track them. I can't (and won't) track the illusive multiple potential FA signings or possible trade targets.

You have been wrong so many times in past years. You should know by now.

[Cranny]

2006 Cards Payroll
96mil

2025
132mil

There are the basic facts. Anyone with half a brain can see the doubling in all main revenues streams since 2006, with payroll last season at about a 45% increase while next season being lower……so if you believe a 17mil reduction from 75 to 58 is the lone cause for all of Cranny’s postings concerning BDW insolvency……..

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

Not really. Just human nature. Again, Red, that question I asked you before. Whom do you think is the Cardinals top outfield prospect in the minors? Important, since much of the future strength must come from within the improved system.

I'm not an expert on the minor league players, but I think Chase Davis may have a real future. What does that have to do you knowing so much about DNA? And we don't know if it will be an improved system until they see results in the Majors.

Red - The Cardinals had high hopes for Chase Davis when they drafted him out of the U. of Arizona in the 1st round in 2023. Unfortunately he's struggled somewhat and hasn't quite lived up to his potential. He was at Springfield all season this year and slashed .242/.358/.353/.711. In 494 PAs he had 16 doubles, hit 10 home runs, and stole 9 bases. Joshua Baez was
drafted out of high school in Massachusetts in 2021. He caught fire this season. Started out at Peoria and was promoted to Springfield after only 38 games. For the season he slashed .287/.384/.500/.884. In 499 plate appearances he had 23 doubles, 20 home runs, and stole 54 bases. His OPS was basically the same at Springfield as it was at Peoria. His OPS at Springfield was .883. Davis OPS was .711 at the same level. Davis is another left handed bat. Baez is a right handed bat.

For a big man, Baez has shown both power and speed. He's 6'3", 220 lbs. If he keeps developing, he could be the corner outfielder we've been looking for. I would probably rate him the #1 outfielder in the system right now - a power right handed bat that many posters have been clamoring for.

I fully know that minor league numbers aren't a 100% assurance that a player will excel at the ML level. At the same time,
I'd rather have a player tearing it up as he comes through the system than meh.

I also know that the majority of major league Cardinal players in the future will be players coming through our system.
I can track them. I can't (and won't) track the illusive multiple potential FA signings or possible trade targets.

You have been wrong so many times in past years. You should know by now.

I posted a reasonable assessment along with facts for this season. And that's all you can come back with? You just can't seem to bring yourself to be nice, can you Red.

How about "Cranny - thanks for the information. Hope Baez continues to develop and Davis somehow gets it going."

You know, Red, things a normal person might say.

[OldRed]

I appreciate your efforts but front office (donkey) kissers are relentless in their need to support DeTwit regardless of facts...they're very sad and pathetic.

The National Contract has tripled, local TV has doubled, Ticket/concessions have more than doubled since stadium financing originated….and Cranny wants all to believe that BDW can’t make his debt service payments….while payroll inline with the % increase in all main revenues streams
A 96mil payroll in 2006 should have no problem being a 180mil payroll in 2025.

But, but, but neither of you are businessmen nor ever owned a business.

but all I have to do on an anonymous forum is claim that I'm a successful businessman or brag about my athletic accomplishments...there's no proof and I can be anyone I choose to make up...very sad and pathetic.

Just like anybody can be a pathetic, trouble-making, anonymous jerk on a message board like this.

Some people have to be nasty and try to act superior. It’s in their DNA.

Coming from you I had a good laugh!! And now you are also an expert on DNA. WOW!

Not really. Just human nature. Again, Red, that question I asked you before. Whom do you think is the Cardinals top outfield prospect in the minors? Important, since much of the future strength must come from within the improved system.

I'm not an expert on the minor league players, but I think Chase Davis may have a real future. What does that have to do you knowing so much about DNA? And we don't know if it will be an improved system until they see results in the Majors.

Red - The Cardinals had high hopes for Chase Davis when they drafted him out of the U. of Arizona in the 1st round in 2023. Unfortunately he's struggled somewhat and hasn't quite lived up to his potential. He was at Springfield all season this year and slashed .242/.358/.353/.711. In 494 PAs he had 16 doubles, hit 10 home runs, and stole 9 bases. Joshua Baez was
drafted out of high school in Massachusetts in 2021. He caught fire this season. Started out at Peoria and was promoted to Springfield after only 38 games. For the season he slashed .287/.384/.500/.884. In 499 plate appearances he had 23 doubles, 20 home runs, and stole 54 bases. His OPS was basically the same at Springfield as it was at Peoria. His OPS at Springfield was .883. Davis OPS was .711 at the same level. Davis is another left handed bat. Baez is a right handed bat.

For a big man, Baez has shown both power and speed. He's 6'3", 220 lbs. If he keeps developing, he could be the corner outfielder we've been looking for. I would probably rate him the #1 outfielder in the system right now - a power right handed bat that many posters have been clamoring for.

I fully know that minor league numbers aren't a 100% assurance that a player will excel at the ML level. At the same time,
I'd rather have a player tearing it up as he comes through the system than meh.

I also know that the majority of major league Cardinal players in the future will be players coming through our system.
I can track them. I can't (and won't) track the illusive multiple potential FA signings or possible trade targets.

You have been wrong so many times in past years. You should know by now.

I posted a reasonable assessment along with facts for this season. And that's all you can come back with? You just can't seem to bring yourself to be nice, can you Red.

How about "Cranny - thanks for the information. Hope Baez continues to develop and Davis somehow gets it going."

You know, Red, things a normal person might say.

You just think you are so much smarter and better than everyone else. That is NOT NORMAL.

[WLTFE]

Red, you would know how to respond to posts if you claimed to be a successful businessman and a sports hero...

[sikeston bulldog2]

Old people get paranoid about everything, especially loss. And if mental disorder is present, even more so.

It might take a death or sale to get additional funding.

[WLTFE]

Old people get paranoid about everything, especially loss. And if mental disorder is present, even more so.

It might take a death or sale to get additional funding.

Good points.. people in their 80s often become set in their ways and don't like change...and become petty and will argue with anyone who has a different opinion...I think some become socially isolated and seek out attention...it's very sad to watch

[sikeston bulldog2]

Old people get paranoid about everything, especially loss. And if mental disorder is present, even more so.

It might take a death or sale to get additional funding.

Good points.. people in their 80s often become set in their ways and don't like change...and become petty and will argue with anyone who has a different opinion...I think some become socially isolated and seek out attention...it's very sad to watch

I fall close into the socially isolated, as I live in a big house alone. Everyone is gone.

I get out daily, and do tidbits around the yard. Two cats.

I like to communicate and see and hear others perspective and so I start a thread for that purpose.

Of course, I’m not 80 yet.

[OldRed]

Old people get paranoid about everything, especially loss. And if mental disorder is present, even more so.

It might take a death or sale to get additional funding.

Good points.. people in their 80s often become set in their ways and don't like change...and become petty and will argue with anyone who has a different opinion...I think some become socially isolated and seek out attention...it's very sad to watch

I fall close into the socially isolated, as I live in a big house alone. Everyone is gone.

I get out daily, and do tidbits around the yard. Two cats.

I like to communicate and see and hear others perspective and so I start a thread for that purpose.

Of course, I’m not 80 yet.

I'm 80 and remain very active. What bothers me with some older people is they think they know everything just because they are old. Running a business in your 80's seems strange to me when it should be a time of relaxation, gardening, smelling the flowers and being thankful you are still around to enjoy it. It may be time for new leadership with the Cardinals and a new understanding of life with some that post here.