Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
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Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
Will Bloom entertain offers for all others? Why not, if it's a deal than can help the team?
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Frank Gallagher
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
JJW and Doyle are the untouchables. Winn should not be considered untouchable
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
A gold glove SS is hard to find. I expect his offense to continue to improve.Frank Gallagher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 17:12 pm JJW and Doyle are the untouchables. Winn should not be considered untouchable
Is there another SS in the Cardinals pipeline?
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Frank Gallagher
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
JJW can play SS. I don't necessarily think Winn should be traded, but he shouldn't be untouchable either. It certainly would depend on what was coming back.sp25 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 17:19 pmA gold glove SS is hard to find. I expect his offense to continue to improve.Frank Gallagher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 17:12 pm JJW and Doyle are the untouchables. Winn should not be considered untouchable
Is there another SS in the Cardinals pipeline?
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
FG, true, Wetherholt, as a potential SS, may also make Winn available. But Bloom would need to overwhelmed by an offer. Maybe something like the Nationals got for Sosa. I overlooked Doyle as untouchable.Frank Gallagher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 17:22 pmJJW can play SS. I don't necessarily think Winn should be traded, but he shouldn't be untouchable either. It certainly would depend on what was coming back.sp25 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 17:19 pmA gold glove SS is hard to find. I expect his offense to continue to improve.Frank Gallagher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 17:12 pm JJW and Doyle are the untouchables. Winn should not be considered untouchable
Is there another SS in the Cardinals pipeline?
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
I would say that out of the projected players to make the roster Winn and JJW are the only untouchables. I don’t know why we would trade any other prospects such as Doyle when we should be in a rebuild.
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Strummer Jones
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.
It would take a trade like that.
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
Are you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
Jacob Wilson makes that trade less than 0.1%Adam2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:56 pmAre you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.
plus, Kurtz is going to the Dodgers, Mets, Yanks, Red Sox in his 2nd year of Arb...slight chance in his 1st year of arb....unless Vegas becomes the hot spot for baseball...it could happen I guess?
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
With Wetherholt a suitable replacement at SS, That Winn for Kurtz kind of trade kind of makes sense. Do the A's need a SS?Adam2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:56 pmAre you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
J A C O B=W I L S O NShady wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 19:15 pmWith Wetherholt a suitable replacement at SS, That Winn for Kurtz kind of trade kind of makes sense. Do the A's need a SS?Adam2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:56 pmAre you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.
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NYCardsFan
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
How do you know that Wetherholt is a “suitable replacement at SS”?Shady wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 19:15 pmWith Wetherholt a suitable replacement at SS, That Winn for Kurtz kind of trade kind of makes sense. Do the A's need a SS?Adam2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:56 pmAre you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
You mean the AL starting SS in the All Star game and a finalist for AL Rookie of the Year?craviduce wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 19:19 pmJ A C O B=W I L S O NShady wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 19:15 pmWith Wetherholt a suitable replacement at SS, That Winn for Kurtz kind of trade kind of makes sense. Do the A's need a SS?Adam2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:56 pmAre you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.![]()
Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
You certainly answered the question. So which other young star might be available for Winn? Do the Pirates, possibly, need a young, Gold Glove SS?sp25 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 20:08 pmYou mean the AL starting SS in the All Star game and a finalist for AL Rookie of the Year?craviduce wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 19:19 pmJ A C O B=W I L S O NShady wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 19:15 pmWith Wetherholt a suitable replacement at SS, That Winn for Kurtz kind of trade kind of makes sense. Do the A's need a SS?Adam2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:56 pmAre you saying you think there's even a 1 percent chance the As would trade Kurtz for Masyn?Strummer Jones wrote: ↑04 Nov 2025 18:53 pm Winn is not untouchable...because there's a non-zero chance that whoever is Sacramento's GM would give us Kurtz for Winn.
It would take a trade like that.![]()
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Ronnie Dobbs
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
No one is untouchable.
But I also think that Winn and Wetherholt are two good, young middle infielders to build around.
But I also think that Winn and Wetherholt are two good, young middle infielders to build around.
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imetsatchelpaige
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Re: Are the only untouchables Wetherholt and Winn?
Historically, chopping block conjecture waited until after Thanksgiving.
W/W is our nucleus. Ride it, don’t trade it.
Next caller.