Well I guess anything is possible but not for 13 million.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:56 pm"He's got enough money for 100 lifetimes". On the other hand, maybe that's a reason to finish out his career with his hometown team. Just a thought.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:44 pmHe's not going to play for a rebuild.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:40 pmPlease elaborate. Thanks. Also, could he improve the Cardinals starting pitching in '26? Since he's a FA, this is a relevant topic for discussion?11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:38 pmThanks for proving my point.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:36 pmI don't know. Maybe somebody that follows the game would realize Scherzer started the 7th game of the World Series. That's a pretty big deal. IMO11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
He's got enough money for 100 lifetimes. He wants to play for a contender.
Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
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Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Actually, hot a bad suggestion.ecleme22 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmWell, if he stays in STL, it might give him a good chance to play for a contender.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:44 pmHe's not going to play for a rebuild.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:40 pmPlease elaborate. Thanks. Also, could he improve the Cardinals starting pitching in '26? Since he's a FA, this is a relevant topic for discussion?11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:38 pmThanks for proving my point.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:36 pmI don't know. Maybe somebody that follows the game would realize Scherzer started the 7th game of the World Series. That's a pretty big deal. IMO11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
He's got enough money for 100 lifetimes. He wants to play for a contender.
Sign Max, and put in the contract that if he wants to be traded at the DL, the org must fulfill his wish and he has full veto power.
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
1) In reading the responses in this thread it would seem that opinions are rather one sided!Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmBut isn't it worth discussing? Since the Cardinals' starting rotation, obviously, needs help.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
2) Do YOU think they should sign Scherzer??
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Sometimes, you just have to "roll the dice". He's been a world class starting pitcher for a long time. Is he worth $13 million? He'd sure help with attendance.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:56 pmYeah and if has yet another injury which certainly will occur the team is out salary which apparently they can ill afford to lose. Thus him not having any trade value at the deadline.ecleme22 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmWell, if he stays in STL, it might give him a good chance to play for a contender.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:44 pmHe's not going to play for a rebuild.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:40 pmPlease elaborate. Thanks. Also, could he improve the Cardinals starting pitching in '26? Since he's a FA, this is a relevant topic for discussion?11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:38 pmThanks for proving my point.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:36 pmI don't know. Maybe somebody that follows the game would realize Scherzer started the 7th game of the World Series. That's a pretty big deal. IMO11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
He's got enough money for 100 lifetimes. He wants to play for a contender.
Sign Max, and put in the contract that if he wants to be traded at the DL, the org must fulfill his wish and he has full veto power.
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Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
It's fun.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:55 pmI enjoy Hot Stove talk and we get a lot of great discussion.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:51 pmYeah don't mean to be but some of these topics.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
Scherzer is used to the spotlight that isn't going to happen here.
But.....some of this stuff is puzzling.
I recall (old guy here) hot stove talk on the old call in sports show on KMOX with Jack Buck and others in the winter
time.
Some good discussions.
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
He's been a world class starting pitcher for a long time. Is he worth $13 million? He'd sure help with attendance.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pm1) In reading the responses in this thread it would seem that opinions are rather one sided!Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmBut isn't it worth discussing? Since the Cardinals' starting rotation, obviously, needs help.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
2) Do YOU think they should sign Scherzer??
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Agree11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pmIt's fun.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:55 pmI enjoy Hot Stove talk and we get a lot of great discussion.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:51 pmYeah don't mean to be but some of these topics.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
Scherzer is used to the spotlight that isn't going to happen here.
But.....some of this stuff is puzzling.
I recall (old guy here) hot stove talk on the old call in sports show on KMOX with Jack Buck and others in the winter
time.
Some good discussions.
And this off season should be filled with a lot of good discussion especially considering the new regime under Bloom and multiple team needs.
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Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
And the "experts" here like us will be giving our two cents.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:04 pmAgree11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pmIt's fun.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:55 pmI enjoy Hot Stove talk and we get a lot of great discussion.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:51 pmYeah don't mean to be but some of these topics.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
Scherzer is used to the spotlight that isn't going to happen here.
But.....some of this stuff is puzzling.
I recall (old guy here) hot stove talk on the old call in sports show on KMOX with Jack Buck and others in the winter
time.
Some good discussions.
And this off season should be filled with a lot of good discussion especially considering the new regime under Bloom and multiple team needs.
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
1) His past history while impressive has no bearing on his fit with the Cards in 2026.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:02 pmHe's been a world class starting pitcher for a long time. Is he worth $13 million? He'd sure help with attendance.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pm1) In reading the responses in this thread it would seem that opinions are rather one sided!Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmBut isn't it worth discussing? Since the Cardinals' starting rotation, obviously, needs help.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
2) Do YOU think they should sign Scherzer??
2) He is probably worth $13M but NOT with the Cards. As everyone else has stated!
3) You didn’t answer my question in #2. What do YOU think?
Sorry....but this is what frustrates most posters on here.
You start threads. Which is fine.
But you constantly ask rhetorical and repetitive questions.
And you offer little in the way of opinions.
Answering a question with another question is not discussion or dialogue.
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Absolutely11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:08 pmAnd the "experts" here like us will be giving our two cents.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:04 pmAgree11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pmIt's fun.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:55 pmI enjoy Hot Stove talk and we get a lot of great discussion.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:51 pmYeah don't mean to be but some of these topics.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
Scherzer is used to the spotlight that isn't going to happen here.
But.....some of this stuff is puzzling.
I recall (old guy here) hot stove talk on the old call in sports show on KMOX with Jack Buck and others in the winter
time.
Some good discussions.
And this off season should be filled with a lot of good discussion especially considering the new regime under Bloom and multiple team needs.![]()
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
If trades aren't productive for starting pitching help. Scherzer would be worth the gamble at $13 Million. Especially, if Gray is traded.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:11 pm1) His past history while impressive has no bearing on his fit with the Cards in 2026.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:02 pmHe's been a world class starting pitcher for a long time. Is he worth $13 million? He'd sure help with attendance.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pm1) In reading the responses in this thread it would seem that opinions are rather one sided!Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmBut isn't it worth discussing? Since the Cardinals' starting rotation, obviously, needs help.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
2) Do YOU think they should sign Scherzer??
2) He is probably worth $13M but NOT with the Cards. As everyone else has stated!
3) You didn’t answer my question in #2. What do YOU think?
Sorry....but this is what frustrates most posters on here.
You start threads. Which is fine.
But you constantly ask rhetorical and repetitive questions.
And you offer little in the way of opinions.
Answering a question with another question is not discussion or dialogue.
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
OkShady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:15 pmIf trades aren't productive for starting pitching help. Scherzer would be worth the gamble at $13 Million. Especially, if Gray is traded.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:11 pm1) His past history while impressive has no bearing on his fit with the Cards in 2026.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:02 pmHe's been a world class starting pitcher for a long time. Is he worth $13 million? He'd sure help with attendance.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pm1) In reading the responses in this thread it would seem that opinions are rather one sided!Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmBut isn't it worth discussing? Since the Cardinals' starting rotation, obviously, needs help.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
2) Do YOU think they should sign Scherzer??
2) He is probably worth $13M but NOT with the Cards. As everyone else has stated!
3) You didn’t answer my question in #2. What do YOU think?
Sorry....but this is what frustrates most posters on here.
You start threads. Which is fine.
But you constantly ask rhetorical and repetitive questions.
And you offer little in the way of opinions.
Answering a question with another question is not discussion or dialogue.
Respectfully noted.
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Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
And then argue that it should have been five cents.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:08 pmAnd the "experts" here like us will be giving our two cents.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:04 pmAgree11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 19:01 pmIt's fun.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:55 pmI enjoy Hot Stove talk and we get a lot of great discussion.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:51 pmYeah don't mean to be but some of these topics.Cusecards wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:48 pmLOL.....blunt but well said!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
Scherzer to the Cards makes zero sense even if Gray is traded.
Scherzer is used to the spotlight that isn't going to happen here.
But.....some of this stuff is puzzling.
I recall (old guy here) hot stove talk on the old call in sports show on KMOX with Jack Buck and others in the winter
time.
Some good discussions.
And this off season should be filled with a lot of good discussion especially considering the new regime under Bloom and multiple team needs.![]()
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Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
This kind of deal seems right up BDW's alley (but I'm sure Max isn't interested).
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Though St. Louis is hometown , wondering if Scherzer would leave Blue Jays if he may have more interest in the Giants. Scherzer would be reunited with his old college coach from Mizzou Tony Vitello as his manager in San Fran. Scherzer has given Vitello credit for developing him as a college pitcher and the two have had a close friendship ever since that time. In additon , Buster Posey has made some big moves .. Not only the outside the box of hiring Vitello but acquiring Devers last year along with Willy Adames last offseason. I could see Posey trying to get Scherzer to Giants before Cardinals acquiring him for Cardinals. I may be wrong though.
Re: Scherzer for the reported $13 Million estimated value
Wah wah!!!!11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:56 pmYeah and if has yet another injury which certainly will occur the team is out salary which apparently they can ill afford to lose. Thus him not having any trade value at the deadline.ecleme22 wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:52 pmWell, if he stays in STL, it might give him a good chance to play for a contender.11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:44 pmHe's not going to play for a rebuild.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:40 pmPlease elaborate. Thanks. Also, could he improve the Cardinals starting pitching in '26? Since he's a FA, this is a relevant topic for discussion?11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:38 pmThanks for proving my point.Shady wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:36 pmI don't know. Maybe somebody that follows the game would realize Scherzer started the 7th game of the World Series. That's a pretty big deal. IMO11WSChamps wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025 18:32 pm Frankly I don't know how people who supposedly pay attention to the game come up with a topic like this.
He's got enough money for 100 lifetimes. He wants to play for a contender.
Sign Max, and put in the contract that if he wants to be traded at the DL, the org must fulfill his wish and he has full veto power.