Bases loaded, force out at home.

[cards53]

In spite of my distaste for Melville’s continual arrogance in most of his posts, I agree with it this time.

I felt like diving to the plate was the best choice.
I asked google AI for an opinion and it said running through was the best option.

As for Melville, I think AI explains what his arrogance implies.
I did not ask for a comparison with confidence, AI did that:

Confidence is a self-assured belief in one's abilities, while arrogance is an excessive and condescending belief in one's superiority. Confidence comes from internal validation and humility, allowing one to acknowledge weaknesses and value others' contributions. Arrogance, in contrast, stems from insecurity and a need for external validation, often leading to a dismissive or demeaning attitude toward others.

I think I have too much confidence in some of my posts, but I try to respect other opinions even if I disagree.

[Melville]

In spite of my distaste for Melville’s continual arrogance in most of his posts, I agree with it this time.

I felt like diving to the plate was the best choice.
I asked google AI for an opinion and it said running through was the best option.

As for Melville, I think AI explains what his arrogance implies.
I did not ask for a comparison with confidence, AI did that:

Confidence is a self-assured belief in one's abilities, while arrogance is an excessive and condescending belief in one's superiority. Confidence comes from internal validation and humility, allowing one to acknowledge weaknesses and value others' contributions. Arrogance, in contrast, stems from insecurity and a need for external validation, often leading to a dismissive or demeaning attitude toward others.

I think I have too much confidence in some of my posts, but I try to respect other opinions even if I disagree.

One, I spotted the mistake in real time - while the announcers did not.
Nor was it correctly understood and analyzed by the broadcasters after the play - or during the broadcast after the game.
Since I understood the mistake in the split second it occurred, it is not possible anyone caught it before I did.
Perhaps a few people watching realized it at the time split second I did.
Certainly open to that possibility.
But I doubt it.
Simply being honest.
Two, from the post above, it appears I was faster in my correct understanding than even AI is capable of.
I complement you for agreeing with my assessment - and for taking the extra step of confirming it with other sources.
Three, being correct in understanding and analyzing a situation with split second timing is not confidence.
Nor arrogance.
It is simply being correct.
Four, there is no one more kind, gracious, patient, and respectful of others than I am - while creating extreme high levels of engagement.
I am a complete gentleman at all times, which I suspect is bothersome to some for reasons I cannot fathom.
But, it is never about me and I only respond because your post attempted to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
And this baserunning mistake cost the Blue Jays a game - and a ring.

[dugoutrex]

In spite of my distaste for Melville’s continual arrogance in most of his posts, I agree with it this time.

I felt like diving to the plate was the best choice.
I asked google AI for an opinion and it said running through was the best option.

As for Melville, I think AI explains what his arrogance implies.
I did not ask for a comparison with confidence, AI did that:

Confidence is a self-assured belief in one's abilities, while arrogance is an excessive and condescending belief in one's superiority. Confidence comes from internal validation and humility, allowing one to acknowledge weaknesses and value others' contributions. Arrogance, in contrast, stems from insecurity and a need for external validation, often leading to a dismissive or demeaning attitude toward others.

I think I have too much confidence in some of my posts, but I try to respect other opinions even if I disagree.

One, I spotted the mistake in real time - while the announcers did not.
Nor was it correctly understood and analyzed by the broadcasters after the play - or during the broadcast after the game.
Since I understood the mistake in the split second it occurred, it is not possible anyone caught it before I did.
Perhaps a few people watching realized it at the time split second I did.
Certainly open to that possibility.
But I doubt it.
Simply being honest.
Two, from the post above, it appears I was faster in my correct understanding than even AI is capable of.
I complement you for agreeing with my assessment - and for taking the extra step of confirming it with other sources.
Three, being correct in understanding and analyzing a situation with split second timing is not confidence.
Nor arrogance.
It is simply being correct.
Four, there is no one more kind, gracious, patient, and respectful of others than I am - while creating extreme high levels of engagement.
I am a complete gentleman at all times, which I suspect is bothersome to some for reasons I cannot fathom.
But, it is never about me and I only respond because your post attempted to make it so.
I am only and always about the game.
And this baserunning mistake cost the Blue Jays a game - and a ring.

lots of talk from your local JJ sandwich maker

[sdaltons]

Let's not forget they removed Bichette for what would presumably be a better base runner. Said base runner accomplished nothing Bichette couldn't have done and then came up to bat in extras when it sure would have been nice to have Bo at the dish.

[kyace]

IKF said he was told to stay close to third as the Blue Jays was terrified of having him doubled off like the night before. They blew numerous chances and I was not impressed by their manager’s decisions.

[ScotchMIrish]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

[ramfandan]

Allow me to make a point which I have not seen or heard anyone else make (naturally).
The Blue Jays would have won the World Series if they had understood the perfect point I am about to make.
There was no need for Kiner-Falefa to slide into home.
Sliding is proven to be slower than running through a base.
Players only need to slide on tag plays or to avoid over-running a base.
Neither applied in that moment.
If Kiner-Falefa runs through home plate, and does not slow himself by sliding, he would have been clearly safe on that play.
And any replay review would have been far more precise.
No excuse for the mistake he made.
It is something he and the 3b coach should have discussed.
Obviously, they did not.
Foolish mistake.
Had I been the 3b coach, it would have been explained to the runner well in advance and there would have been no slide.
And he would have been safe.
And the Blue Jay would be exhausted this morning from celebrating last night.

I know you have made several posts on how Bloom should make his upcoming decisions, have you ever considered being a 3rd base coach ?
You may enjoy that .
The most interesting facet for you would be when to send a runner on 2nd base home on a base hit to an outfielder. You have a few factors to consider : A. the speed of your runner on 2nd base to get to home plate B. How quickly the hit got to the OF C. The depth of the OF when he fields the baseball D. the arm strength of the fielder in making the throw to home plate You have about a second or so to process all that info to decide whether to give him the windup with your arm sending him OR to put up the stop sign .
I always thought myself I wonder how a novice never having worked with the speed of major leaguers and OF arm strengths would do .
Could imagine some plays where the runner is a dead duck by 10 ft. and the crowd holing their head saying Holy (bleep) . Why did Ramfandan send that guy ? He is Baaaad ! lol

[Melville]

Allow me to make a point which I have not seen or heard anyone else make (naturally).
The Blue Jays would have won the World Series if they had understood the perfect point I am about to make.
There was no need for Kiner-Falefa to slide into home.
Sliding is proven to be slower than running through a base.
Players only need to slide on tag plays or to avoid over-running a base.
Neither applied in that moment.
If Kiner-Falefa runs through home plate, and does not slow himself by sliding, he would have been clearly safe on that play.
And any replay review would have been far more precise.
No excuse for the mistake he made.
It is something he and the 3b coach should have discussed.
Obviously, they did not.
Foolish mistake.
Had I been the 3b coach, it would have been explained to the runner well in advance and there would have been no slide.
And he would have been safe.
And the Blue Jay would be exhausted this morning from celebrating last night.

I know you have made several posts on how Bloom should make his upcoming decisions, have you ever considered being a 3rd base coach ?
You may enjoy that .
The most interesting facet for you would be when to send a runner on 2nd base home on a base hit to an outfielder. You have a few factors to consider : A. the speed of your runner on 2nd base to get to home plate B. How quickly the hit got to the OF C. The depth of the OF when he fields the baseball D. the arm strength of the fielder in making the throw to home plate You have about a second or so to process all that info to decide whether to give him the windup with your arm sending him OR to put up the stop sign .
I always thought myself I wonder how a novice never having worked with the speed of major leaguers and OF arm strengths would do .
Could imagine some plays where the runner is a dead duck by 10 ft. and the crowd holing their head saying Holy (bleep) . Why did Ramfandan send that guy ? He is Baaaad ! lol

All correct.
Don't disagree at all.
But in this instance, everything should have been communicated in advance.
No judgement involved.
Go on contact on anything hit on the ground.
And run through home plate since a slide would only slow down the runner.

[rockondlouie]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

Yep

And that's why Lou, who wasn't a guy to argue, went nuts (and was that G. Kissell/3rd base coach also arguing?)

[ScotchMIrish]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

Yep

And that's why Lou, who wasn't a guy to argue, went nuts (and was that G. Kissell/3rd base coach also arguing?)

And without Brock they aren't in any of the 3 60's world series. I never saw Musial except in an old timers game. Brock was the best Cardinals player I saw.

[Melville]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

Yep

And that's why Lou, who wasn't a guy to argue, went nuts (and was that G. Kissell/3rd base coach also arguing?)

And without Brock they aren't in any of the 3 60's world series. I never saw Musial except in an old timers game. Brock was the best Cardinals player I saw.

Brock is one of the two players who made me a Cardinal fan.
The other was Gibson.
Both simply electric players.

[rockondlouie]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

Yep

And that's why Lou, who wasn't a guy to argue, went nuts (and was that G. Kissell/3rd base coach also arguing?)

And without Brock they aren't in any of the 3 60's world series. I never saw Musial except in an old timers game. Brock was the best Cardinals player I saw.

Brock was one of the greatest World Series players of all time:

21 GP
4 HR
13 RBI
16 Runs
14 SB's
.391 .424 .655 1.079

[ScotchMIrish]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

Yep

And that's why Lou, who wasn't a guy to argue, went nuts (and was that G. Kissell/3rd base coach also arguing?)

And without Brock they aren't in any of the 3 60's world series. I never saw Musial except in an old timers game. Brock was the best Cardinals player I saw.

Brock is one of the two players who made me a Cardinal fan.
The other was Gibson.
Both simply electric players.

I had several favorites. Torre was one. Brock was the best I saw. When he stepped to the plate or got on base the usual chatter in the ballpark quieted down. People wanted to see what Brock was going to do. He intimidated pitchers, catchers and fielders with his bat, speed and aggressiveness. I saw a youtube interview with Johnny Bench in which Bench said Brock would tell him "If I get on I'm going".

[Melville]

Too bad #20 didn't slide in the 1968 World Series or the Cardinals may have had 12 flags flying over Busch Stadium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr4J3gLhL0k

Foot appeared to be on the plate but I'm guessing the 3B coach told him not to using the same logic as OP. He always slid into other bases.

Yep

And that's why Lou, who wasn't a guy to argue, went nuts (and was that G. Kissell/3rd base coach also arguing?)

And without Brock they aren't in any of the 3 60's world series. I never saw Musial except in an old timers game. Brock was the best Cardinals player I saw.

Brock is one of the two players who made me a Cardinal fan.
The other was Gibson.
Both simply electric players.

I had several favorites. Torre was one. Brock was the best I saw. When he stepped to the plate or got on base the usual chatter in the ballpark quieted down. People wanted to see what Brock was going to do. He intimidated pitchers, catchers and fielders with his bat, speed and aggressiveness. I saw a youtube interview with Johnny Bench in which Bench said Brock would tell him "If I get on I'm going".

You make a great point about "the usual chatter in the ballpark quieted down".
Brock and Gibson were two players who kept eyes glued to the field.
Something DeWitt would do well to think about.

[CorneliusWolfe]

Allow me to make a point which I have not seen or heard anyone else make (naturally).
The Blue Jays would have won the World Series if they had understood the perfect point I am about to make.
There was no need for Kiner-Falefa to slide into home.
Sliding is proven to be slower than running through a base.
Players only need to slide on tag plays or to avoid over-running a base.
Neither applied in that moment.
If Kiner-Falefa runs through home plate, and does not slow himself by sliding, he would have been clearly safe on that play.
And any replay review would have been far more precise.
No excuse for the mistake he made.
It is something he and the 3b coach should have discussed.
Obviously, they did not.
Foolish mistake.
Had I been the 3b coach, it would have been explained to the runner well in advance and there would have been no slide.
And he would have been safe.
And the Blue Jay would be exhausted this morning from celebrating last night.

Sorry Melville, not you and you alone this time. I’ve even seen it stated on social media several times and when I was watching the game I wondered why he slid. It was easy, obvious and incorrect that he slid and most everyone knew it.

Like I’ve stated several times, the money didn’t buy the World Series for LA. The Blue Jays had them on the ropes and the Dodgers stuck their chin out several times daring to be knocked out. Poor play at key moments, bad luck, untimely injuries and maybe Dave Roberts out-managing the other guy in game 7 are all bigger reasons than money that LA won.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Allow me to make a point which I have not seen or heard anyone else make (naturally).
The Blue Jays would have won the World Series if they had understood the perfect point I am about to make.
There was no need for Kiner-Falefa to slide into home.
Sliding is proven to be slower than running through a base.
Players only need to slide on tag plays or to avoid over-running a base.
Neither applied in that moment.
If Kiner-Falefa runs through home plate, and does not slow himself by sliding, he would have been clearly safe on that play.
And any replay review would have been far more precise.
No excuse for the mistake he made.
It is something he and the 3b coach should have discussed.
Obviously, they did not.
Foolish mistake.
Had I been the 3b coach, it would have been explained to the runner well in advance and there would have been no slide.
And he would have been safe.
And the Blue Jay would be exhausted this morning from celebrating last night.

Sorry Melville, not you and you alone this time. I’ve even seen it stated on social media several times and when I was watching the game I wondered why he slid. It was easy, obvious and incorrect that he slid and most everyone knew it.

Like I’ve stated several times, the money didn’t buy the World Series for LA. The Blue Jays had them on the ropes and the Dodgers stuck their chin out several times daring to be knocked out. Poor play at key moments, bad luck, untimely injuries and maybe Dave Roberts out-managing the other guy in game 7 are all bigger reasons than money that LA won.

Good points on why.