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Lloyd Braun
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Dodgers were more than just an expensive roster

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They were fundamentally sound and managed very well, and that is ultimately what ended up being the difference in this series.

The Dodgers were making plays, catching and fielding balls an inch from elimination and getting huge hits from players lower on the totem pole when it mattered the most... while Toronto was running the bases like little league goofballs and couldn't get a clutch hit or Sac fly, or make a good pitch to save their life when it mattered

Hoffman was horrendous all year, it was almost obvious he wouldn't be up to the challenge to close that out.

IKF was ironically brought in for Bichette, specifically because Bichette couldn't run. And then he cost his team the series on the bases by taking a terrible lead and then sliding at the plate on a force play.

Schneider decided to just give up one of his last three outs of the season with a sacrifice bunt, even though the tying run was already in scoring position.

The Dodger players and manager (Even the ones that don't account for a billion in salary) were all making winning plays.
The Jays players and manager were doing everything they could NOT to win and the Dodgers needed and took every inch they gave away

This doesn't change the fact the MLB needs a cap IMO, but the Dodgers are more than just their expensive roster.

The Blue Jays - as it turns out - was the team that tried to buy a world series while ignoring the inches that usually determine the outcome
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Well, it certainly didn’t hurt to have a starting rotation that carried them through the playoffs whose members were all acquired via massive FA deals or trade-and-signs.

Ohtani: 10yrs/$700mm
Yamamoto: 12/$325 plus a $50.6mm posting fee
Snell: 5/$182mm
Glasnow: 5/$136.5
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They bought the WS again. Yawn. MLB -
heading for a big lockout. When they’ll lose more fans.
They don’t learn. The greed is rampant.
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Cranny wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:38 am They bought the WS again. Yawn. MLB -
heading for a big lockout. When they’ll lose more fans.
They don’t learn. The greed is rampant.

This is the first time the league has seen three straight years of attendance growth (2023-2025).
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OldRed wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:13 am
Cranny wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:38 am They bought the WS again. Yawn. MLB -
heading for a big lockout. When they’ll lose more fans.
They don’t learn. The greed is rampant.

This is the first time the league has seen three straight years of attendance growth (2023-2025).


Red. We don't need facts...we need to keep making excuses to justify the pathetic legacy of Mozo the Clown!
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Red - Are you talking about tickets sold, or actual turnstile attendance?
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Cranny wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:43 am Red - Are you talking about tickets sold, or actual turnstile attendance?
Cranny - That's what they go by, Tickets Sold.
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A large portion of those tickets are bought up by big corporations, and are given out as perks to their customers and employees. A large portion of those go unused. The teams mostly don’t care, because the tickets are sold, and the people actually using them didn’t have to pay for the tickets, so they have money to spend on food, beer, and souvenirs!
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OldRed wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:13 am
Cranny wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:38 am They bought the WS again. Yawn. MLB -
heading for a big lockout. When they’ll lose more fans.
They don’t learn. The greed is rampant.

This is the first time the league has seen three straight years of attendance growth (2023-2025).


exactly - the sport is alive and well and yet many on here think things are terrible - oh well, I enjoyed the hell out of this year!
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Not a real shock that MASSIVE AMOUNTS of payroll money buys you quality players who know how to play the game.

The Dodgers have bought the last two World Series plain and simple but they've done it within the rules of MLB.

If the Cardinals had an owner (we wish) who spent $400m (closer to $500M if not for S. Ohtani's deferred $69M plus others deferred money) on payroll, then we'd love it.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:56 am They were fundamentally sound and managed very well, and that is ultimately what ended up being the difference in this series.

The Dodgers were making plays, catching and fielding balls an inch from elimination and getting huge hits from players lower on the totem pole when it mattered the most... while Toronto was running the bases like little league goofballs and couldn't get a clutch hit or Sac fly, or make a good pitch to save their life when it mattered

Hoffman was horrendous all year, it was almost obvious he wouldn't be up to the challenge to close that out.

IKF was ironically brought in for Bichette, specifically because Bichette couldn't run. And then he cost his team the series on the bases by taking a terrible lead and then sliding at the plate on a force play.

Schneider decided to just give up one of his last three outs of the season with a sacrifice bunt, even though the tying run was already in scoring position.

The Dodger players and manager (Even the ones that don't account for a billion in salary) were all making winning plays.
The Jays players and manager were doing everything they could NOT to win and the Dodgers needed and took every inch they gave away

This doesn't change the fact the MLB needs a cap IMO, but the Dodgers are more than just their expensive roster.

The Blue Jays - as it turns out - was the team that tried to buy a world series while ignoring the inches that usually determine the outcome
They have a fantastic president of baseball operations in Friedman who bought a group of players who can play. The best might be the one he got from Bloom who used to work for him.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:11 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:56 am They were fundamentally sound and managed very well, and that is ultimately what ended up being the difference in this series.

The Dodgers were making plays, catching and fielding balls an inch from elimination and getting huge hits from players lower on the totem pole when it mattered the most... while Toronto was running the bases like little league goofballs and couldn't get a clutch hit or Sac fly, or make a good pitch to save their life when it mattered

Hoffman was horrendous all year, it was almost obvious he wouldn't be up to the challenge to close that out.

IKF was ironically brought in for Bichette, specifically because Bichette couldn't run. And then he cost his team the series on the bases by taking a terrible lead and then sliding at the plate on a force play.

Schneider decided to just give up one of his last three outs of the season with a sacrifice bunt, even though the tying run was already in scoring position.

The Dodger players and manager (Even the ones that don't account for a billion in salary) were all making winning plays.
The Jays players and manager were doing everything they could NOT to win and the Dodgers needed and took every inch they gave away

This doesn't change the fact the MLB needs a cap IMO, but the Dodgers are more than just their expensive roster.

The Blue Jays - as it turns out - was the team that tried to buy a world series while ignoring the inches that usually determine the outcome
They have a fantastic president of baseball operations in Friedman who bought a group of players who can play. The best might be the one he got from Bloom who used to work for him.
I was thinking last night can Winn be as good as Betts:
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OldRed wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:11 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:56 am They were fundamentally sound and managed very well, and that is ultimately what ended up being the difference in this series.

The Dodgers were making plays, catching and fielding balls an inch from elimination and getting huge hits from players lower on the totem pole when it mattered the most... while Toronto was running the bases like little league goofballs and couldn't get a clutch hit or Sac fly, or make a good pitch to save their life when it mattered

Hoffman was horrendous all year, it was almost obvious he wouldn't be up to the challenge to close that out.

IKF was ironically brought in for Bichette, specifically because Bichette couldn't run. And then he cost his team the series on the bases by taking a terrible lead and then sliding at the plate on a force play.

Schneider decided to just give up one of his last three outs of the season with a sacrifice bunt, even though the tying run was already in scoring position.

The Dodger players and manager (Even the ones that don't account for a billion in salary) were all making winning plays.
The Jays players and manager were doing everything they could NOT to win and the Dodgers needed and took every inch they gave away

This doesn't change the fact the MLB needs a cap IMO, but the Dodgers are more than just their expensive roster.

The Blue Jays - as it turns out - was the team that tried to buy a world series while ignoring the inches that usually determine the outcome
They have a fantastic president of baseball operations in Friedman who bought a group of players who can play. The best might be the one he got from Bloom who used to work for him.
I was thinking last night can Winn be as good as Betts:
Simple answer is no. Betts is a much better baseball player than Winn.
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OldRed wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:11 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:56 am They were fundamentally sound and managed very well, and that is ultimately what ended up being the difference in this series.

The Dodgers were making plays, catching and fielding balls an inch from elimination and getting huge hits from players lower on the totem pole when it mattered the most... while Toronto was running the bases like little league goofballs and couldn't get a clutch hit or Sac fly, or make a good pitch to save their life when it mattered

Hoffman was horrendous all year, it was almost obvious he wouldn't be up to the challenge to close that out.

IKF was ironically brought in for Bichette, specifically because Bichette couldn't run. And then he cost his team the series on the bases by taking a terrible lead and then sliding at the plate on a force play.

Schneider decided to just give up one of his last three outs of the season with a sacrifice bunt, even though the tying run was already in scoring position.

The Dodger players and manager (Even the ones that don't account for a billion in salary) were all making winning plays.
The Jays players and manager were doing everything they could NOT to win and the Dodgers needed and took every inch they gave away

This doesn't change the fact the MLB needs a cap IMO, but the Dodgers are more than just their expensive roster.

The Blue Jays - as it turns out - was the team that tried to buy a world series while ignoring the inches that usually determine the outcome
They have a fantastic president of baseball operations in Friedman who bought a group of players who can play. The best might be the one he got from Bloom who used to work for him.
I was thinking last night can Winn be as good as Betts:
No he can't. Not with the bat
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:23 am
OldRed wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:15 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:11 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:56 am They were fundamentally sound and managed very well, and that is ultimately what ended up being the difference in this series.

The Dodgers were making plays, catching and fielding balls an inch from elimination and getting huge hits from players lower on the totem pole when it mattered the most... while Toronto was running the bases like little league goofballs and couldn't get a clutch hit or Sac fly, or make a good pitch to save their life when it mattered

Hoffman was horrendous all year, it was almost obvious he wouldn't be up to the challenge to close that out.

IKF was ironically brought in for Bichette, specifically because Bichette couldn't run. And then he cost his team the series on the bases by taking a terrible lead and then sliding at the plate on a force play.

Schneider decided to just give up one of his last three outs of the season with a sacrifice bunt, even though the tying run was already in scoring position.

The Dodger players and manager (Even the ones that don't account for a billion in salary) were all making winning plays.
The Jays players and manager were doing everything they could NOT to win and the Dodgers needed and took every inch they gave away

This doesn't change the fact the MLB needs a cap IMO, but the Dodgers are more than just their expensive roster.

The Blue Jays - as it turns out - was the team that tried to buy a world series while ignoring the inches that usually determine the outcome
They have a fantastic president of baseball operations in Friedman who bought a group of players who can play. The best might be the one he got from Bloom who used to work for him.
I was thinking last night can Winn be as good as Betts:
No he can't. Not with the bat
Winn is 23 years old
Betts is 33 years old.

Just wishful thinking that Winn will improve to Betts level.
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