Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:06 am Good morning.

Toronto for three games, the 18 inning game, and the last two games, had boo koo attempts to score that run.but didn’t.

Dodgers hit solo shots- Muncy Smith Rojas.

Easy question- a Toronto give away or. dodgers take.
Toronto's atrocious base running throughout the series was the true series MVP for the Dodgers.
Yamamoto's pitching was good for the Dodger cause - but the Jays' runners were the Dodgers best weapon.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Melville wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:55 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:06 am Good morning.

Toronto for three games, the 18 inning game, and the last two games, had boo koo attempts to score that run.but didn’t.

Dodgers hit solo shots- Muncy Smith Rojas.

Easy question- a Toronto give away or. dodgers take.
Toronto's atrocious base running throughout the series was the true series MVP for the Dodgers.
Yamamoto's pitching was good for the Dodger cause - but the Jays' runners were the Dodgers best weapon.
Add this to the mix- in the 18 inning game, Toronto pinch ran for several hitters, thus no remaining offense for extras.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Melville wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:55 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:06 am Good morning.

Toronto for three games, the 18 inning game, and the last two games, had boo koo attempts to score that run.but didn’t.

Dodgers hit solo shots- Muncy Smith Rojas.

Easy question- a Toronto give away or. dodgers take.
Toronto's atrocious base running throughout the series was the true series MVP for the Dodgers.
Yamamoto's pitching was good for the Dodger cause - but the Jays' runners were the Dodgers best weapon.
It's all part of the game. Quit crying.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Dodgers won it!
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:00 am
Melville wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:55 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:06 am Good morning.

Toronto for three games, the 18 inning game, and the last two games, had boo koo attempts to score that run.but didn’t.

Dodgers hit solo shots- Muncy Smith Rojas.

Easy question- a Toronto give away or. dodgers take.
Toronto's atrocious base running throughout the series was the true series MVP for the Dodgers.
Yamamoto's pitching was good for the Dodger cause - but the Jays' runners were the Dodgers best weapon.
Add this to the mix- in the 18 inning game, Toronto pinch ran for several hitters, thus no remaining offense for extras.
agree with this

The Dodgers were the deeper team, even with the shaky bullpen
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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sp25 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:39 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:00 am
Melville wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:55 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:06 am Good morning.

Toronto for three games, the 18 inning game, and the last two games, had boo koo attempts to score that run.but didn’t.

Dodgers hit solo shots- Muncy Smith Rojas.

Easy question- a Toronto give away or. dodgers take.
Toronto's atrocious base running throughout the series was the true series MVP for the Dodgers.
Yamamoto's pitching was good for the Dodger cause - but the Jays' runners were the Dodgers best weapon.
Add this to the mix- in the 18 inning game, Toronto pinch ran for several hitters, thus no remaining offense for extras.
agree with this

The Dodgers were the deeper team, even with the shaky bullpen
Yes.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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I thought the Jays were the better team and I'm trying to wrap my head around how the Dodgers won four from them (four!). Toronto lost it IMO. Dodgers were trash most of the series. Crazy to witness.


JMHO
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Goldfan wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:57 am
kyace wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:32 am Blue Jays got out managed. Yesavage should not have been brought into the game. Blue Jay manager should have known giving up an out by bunting would lead the Dodgers to set up the double play with Kirk, the slowest runner in baseball. IKF was told to stay close to third base and only took a two foot lead off of third base. Muncy was at least 6 feet from the bag. He should have been told to take at least a 4 foot lead. He was out at the plate by inches.
Putting in Rojas for the final two games went against what all analysis from experts would say. Not pinch hitting for him in the ninth also. Putting in Pages for Edmans also saved the game as Edman would not have caught that ball hit by Clements.
Robert’s moves won the WS
Robert’s went with his gut and it paid off…..every moved he made in those final innings played a role. This is something our Oli is incapable of
What's the payroll Roberts has to play with? How about a lineup with 3 MVPs in a row?

Remember the 93'win team Oli had? That had talent...
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Both. In the post season the best team is going to take Danette of every little mistake the other team makes in order to win. The blue jays made base running blunders the dodgers executed some really good plays to get them out. The bluejays had plenty of chances with runners in scoring position but that’s subjective to who you want to believe if you like the dodgers then their pitchers beared down made pitches when they had to to get out of it if you hate them then the blue jays hitters choked
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kyace wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:32 am Blue Jays got out managed. Yesavage should not have been brought into the game. Blue Jay manager should have known giving up an out by bunting would lead the Dodgers to set up the double play with Kirk, the slowest runner in baseball. IKF was told to stay close to third base and only took a two foot lead off of third base. Muncy was at least 6 feet from the bag. He should have been told to take at least a 4 foot lead. He was out at the plate by inches.
Putting in Rojas for the final two games went against what all analysis from experts would say. Not pinch hitting for him in the ninth also. Putting in Pages for Edmans also saved the game as Edman would not have caught that ball hit by Clements.
Robert’s moves won the WS
Great take. For those who think managers don’t really matter, compare Ohtani’s salary with Dave Roberts and consider who had the bigger impact.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:42 am Payroll won.
Tell me you didn't watch a second of the series without telling me. :roll:
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:06 am Good morning.

Toronto for three games, the 18 inning game, and the last two games, had boo koo attempts to score that run.but didn’t.

Dodgers hit solo shots- Muncy Smith Rojas.

Easy question- a Toronto give away or. dodgers take.
I think the story of this series is the blown opportunities, which both teams had a LOT of. Exciting to watch, for us unaffiliated fans. But must have been torture for fans of the teams. It's a shame Toronto couldn't pull it off, but all the people saying "See?? The giant payroll wins again!!" didn't watch the series and see all the ways the Dodgers tried in every game to give it away.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:36 am Both. In the post season the best team is going to take Danette of every little mistake the other team makes in order to win. The blue jays made base running blunders the dodgers executed some really good plays to get them out. The bluejays had plenty of chances with runners in scoring position but that’s subjective to who you want to believe if you like the dodgers then their pitchers beared down made pitches when they had to to get out of it if you hate them then the blue jays hitters choked
Baserunning was a big part. Poor secondary leads too.
2 extra-inning games, that alone makes two toss up games with second guessing aplenty.

Toronto won games 1, 4, & 5, IMO
LA won game 2 the with 3 wins that could have gone either way including game 6 but I'll
give them the edge there.

I only mention this as a contributing factor. Springer and Bichette being gimpy didn't
help, I doubt at the very least they get pinch ran for in those close games.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Dicktar2023 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 12:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:42 am Payroll won.
Tell me you didn't watch a second of the series without telling me. :roll:
I haven't watched a game since the universal DH.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Nov 2025 11:25 am
Goldfan wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:57 am
kyace wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:32 am Blue Jays got out managed. Yesavage should not have been brought into the game. Blue Jay manager should have known giving up an out by bunting would lead the Dodgers to set up the double play with Kirk, the slowest runner in baseball. IKF was told to stay close to third base and only took a two foot lead off of third base. Muncy was at least 6 feet from the bag. He should have been told to take at least a 4 foot lead. He was out at the plate by inches.
Putting in Rojas for the final two games went against what all analysis from experts would say. Not pinch hitting for him in the ninth also. Putting in Pages for Edmans also saved the game as Edman would not have caught that ball hit by Clements.
Robert’s moves won the WS
Robert’s went with his gut and it paid off…..every moved he made in those final innings played a role. This is something our Oli is incapable of
What's the payroll Roberts has to play with? How about a lineup with 3 MVPs in a row?

Remember the 93'win team Oli had? That had talent...
He didn’t have to play Rojas. He didn’t have to pull Edman from CF and insert Pages.
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Re: Did the Dodgers win it, Or did Toronto lose.

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Both.

The Blue Jays made a lot of mistakes and managed to lose to an inferior team.

The Dodgers didn't make mistakes and managed to beat a superior team.

The Blue Jays outscored the Dodgers by nearly a run per game despite poor strategies and poor execution and still lost the series.
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