Goldfan wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 20:09 pm
So this season was SPECIFICALLY designate as the season for YOUTH to play an entire year……stress free…..to allow all to blossom….
GORMAN and WALKER were BAD…..very bad…..
And yet CTers see no reason why they don’t waste ANOTHER season to allow these players to blossom or at least look like ML players
To that I ask…..as I’m sure OZ is curious as well….
Why dont you want, require, need a Better player who can actually hit the ball to be slotted in the staring lineup???
Do you actually think Gorman can correct his well established tendency to pull of the ball??? They tried to close him up this last season and he had 0 power.. he went back to open stance and every now and then at least he’d hit a HR….hitting .200
Wake up……some players flame out of MLB after league figures them out and they can’t adjust……this isn’t a lifeline to perpetual chances til they’re 30
Where are these better players that hit coming from? We know they aren't going to be spending large this year. Unless you think one of them is being blocked in the minors who do you play? BTW I'm fine giving Saggesse open competition with Gorman. And any OFer in the system a look see. But don't expect them to go outside the org to sign anyone.
2b JJ
3b Donovan
And if they can’t find an OF, who can actually play the OF and hit better than Walker……then admit your Org really really sucks and go buy one
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
Some of those questions have been answered already bloom may just be too dumb to see it though and needs another year to see the glaringly obvious
OR
Bloom is smart and wants to see these guys with an offseason of more proper and directed development.
You’re calling Bloom dumb before he’s had a chance to do anything. Longer rope.
lol might as well bring back Piscotty and Carlson also give them another season with more proper directed development lol anyone that thinks bloom is such a miracle worker he’s going to be transforming awful players into gold is going to be very disappointed. It isn’t failed development that keeps walker and Gorman flailing at pitches. He won’t cast spells of pitch recognition on them. But hey it’s only what five more years of watching them continue to suck before they finally realize hey they suck. And what more proper development they’re bringing back the same hitting coach and staff. Remember all the talk of brown working with them the past offseason yea it’s him again
I think it’s odd that even THE TEAM acknowledged that they had big failings in player development, and you’re calling that B S, that player development is fine and it’s just that the players suck.
What an absurd and INSANE position to take
And you think multi year ML disappointments who attempted to change and fix swing several times and still have very glaring holes can
Be rejuvenated?? Somehow Gorman after 20yrs of hitting with his open stance and only being able to generate his power that way…..Will redesign his entire swing…..Under Blooms magic…..and actually stay on pitches AND maintain his power.
I mean… if you want to completely fabricate talking points and opinions, and then attribute them to me, have at it, but that’s a pretty dishonest way to debate. Wouldn’t you agree?
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Home runs his age 24 season and 26 his age 25 season Gorman hit 19 and 14 schwarber also had 3 of 4 seasons with an OPS over .780
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Home runs his age 24 season and 26 his age 25 season Gorman hit 19 and 14 schwarber also had 3 of 4 seasons with an OPS over .780
I also doubt Gorman turns into Schwarber. But I'm also unwilling to kick him to the curb at his age without one more shot since next year isn't a competitive year for STL anyway. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Home runs his age 24 season and 26 his age 25 season Gorman hit 19 and 14 schwarber also had 3 of 4 seasons with an OPS over .780
I also doubt Gorman turns into Schwarber. But I'm also unwilling to kick him to the curb at his age without one more shot since next year isn't a competitive year for STL anyway. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.
The only thing to be gained is watching him suck for another season running him back out there season after season expecting different results isn’t the definition of insanity it’s the definition of dumb
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Home runs his age 24 season and 26 his age 25 season Gorman hit 19 and 14 schwarber also had 3 of 4 seasons with an OPS over .780
I also doubt Gorman turns into Schwarber. But I'm also unwilling to kick him to the curb at his age without one more shot since next year isn't a competitive year for STL anyway. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.
The only thing to be gained is watching him suck for another season running him back out there season after season expecting different results isn’t the definition of insanity it’s the definition of dumb
LOL. The potential gain is he actually does learn to hit. Is that not gain? I get it be pessimistic fine. But recognize it is more possible he becomes a hitter than dragons fly out my butt.
It would be dumb to throw him to the curb for nothing. He can't hurt the team and blocks no one.
Spend some of that dry powder and put some baseball players on the field for the first time in years. Tired of this mess of an ownership. We have an ownership like the Cleveland Browns that is as cheap as the Cincinnati Bengals.
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Home runs his age 24 season and 26 his age 25 season Gorman hit 19 and 14 schwarber also had 3 of 4 seasons with an OPS over .780
I also doubt Gorman turns into Schwarber. But I'm also unwilling to kick him to the curb at his age without one more shot since next year isn't a competitive year for STL anyway. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.
The only thing to be gained is watching him suck for another season running him back out there season after season expecting different results isn’t the definition of insanity it’s the definition of dumb
LOL. The potential gain is he actually does learn to hit. Is that not gain? I get it be pessimistic fine. But recognize it is more possible he becomes a hitter than dragons fly out my butt.
It would be dumb to throw him to the curb for nothing. He can't hurt the team and blocks no one.
That’s what they do will when they let him go the Carlson route let him keep sucking until he has no value it’s a page right out of mos playbook how to be an incompetent POBO keep hoping and praying players miraculously get better when they can’t and build the team around players that suck I was hoping bloom would be a fresh change but apparently he will be just as dumb as mo
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Nope. Of course not.
Just pointing out the lunacy of giving up on a power bat this young.
TGKS’ OBP was about 40 points higher over that span… made it easier to be patient.
Also had an ops of .842 .782 and .827 in his first four years the only time he didn’t have an OPS over .780 was when he only had 5 Plate appearances in 2016. He also hit 30 and 26
Home runs in his age 24 and 25 home runs if Gorman was that good yea you stick with him but he’s awful and it’s silly to even try to compare the two.
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Nope. Of course not.
Just pointing out the lunacy of giving up on a power bat this young.
TGKS’ OBP was about 40 points higher over that span… made it easier to be patient.
Gorman’s walk, strikeout, chase, and contact rates this season looked very similar to Schwarber’s age 24 season (until whatever September was happened )
They were both around 12% walk, 31% strikeout, 25% chase
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
My early outlook:
JJ- Thumbs up. I think he will be a strong Rookie of the Year candidate.
Scott- Thumbs up, kind of. He will be better offensively, maybe even acceptable.
Gorman- Thumbs down. I will be surprised if he is anything except what we have seen. Would be glad to be wrong.
Walker- Ehhh. Maybe controversial, I will go with improved. Enough? Not sure.
Leahy- Thumbs down (as a starting pitcher). He won't be "Fedde bad", but by the end of the season I don't think he will be viewed as a starting pitcher.
Herrera- Thumbs down. Not a catcher. Wonder if they are just humoring him.
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:58 am
We're going to see if:
JJ Wetherholt is what we think he is
Victor Scott II can become anything but an offensive liability
Nolan Gorman can play 3B and put the bat on the ball
Jordan Walker can be anything except the biggest mess in the National League
Kyle Leahy can handle a starters load
Ivan Herrera can be a major league catcher.
I know we're rebuilding and I think that is the right thing to do. I don't mind that they ask these questions. The problem comes when they ignore or deny the answers to the questions asked. Some of these questions have been asked and answered.
What kind of rebuild gives up on a 23 year old that was a top prospect a year ago, or a gold glove caliber center fielder with plus speed on the base paths after one season, or even a 25 year old who has already had a full mlb season with 27 homers and an .800 ops over 400 at bats?
I feel very impatient at times and I certainly think big mistakes in the past. But, with the CBA coming after 2026, there really isn’t a good reason not to give all the guys on your list another season to figure it out. What they need to do is add pitching and be ready to add what is needed offensively once the new CBA is in place
By that keep Gorman logic they should have kept Carlson because he’s just 26 and had a decent season a few years ago. Cards should just give them runway careers instead of runway seasons
Gorman is the closest to being someone you give up on. But unless someone overpays in trade there isnt a reason not to give him at least another couple hundred at bats in 2026. It’s not like he is blocking some other great prospect.
He’s had close to 1600 at bats to prove how much sucks why do they need a couple of more hundred at bats for
Him to prove he sucks? I’ll tell you exactly what will happen the same thing I said would happen during
The past offseason he will suck have a good month month and half posters will swoon saying he’s finally figured it out Mel will emerge patting himself on the back talking about how he alone predicted it then he will suck again Mel will go quiet his numbers at the end of the season for yet another year will suck. Said it last offseason and was right this time I’ll add though in the offseason next offseason people will say he’s only 26 and needs a couple of more hundred at bats to prove himself. Also he will spend on the IL with back issues
So every player that’s sucks is going to turn into Kyle schwarber? Schwarber hit 30
Nope. Of course not.
Just pointing out the lunacy of giving up on a power bat this young.
Serious question - If/when Gorman’s 2026 results in a 30+ % strikeout rate, skillet-hands defense, and a +\- .700 OPS, would you then say enough?
At some point the team needs to say “enough”. The problem is that point only comes when the player has zero value. Or at least that’s been the m.o. lately.
