Were they favorites to win the WS, Goldfan?Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:36 pmhttps://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:22 pmWhy won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:42 pmThey actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 07:44 amSo with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contraryCranny wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 21:07 pmThe Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They willBanner29 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.
It’s weird. But You do you
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.![]()
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You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention
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Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
So in your mind in order to be a viable contender to WIN the WS before the season…….All Pundits(who have as much predictive power as CT posters) need to write “WS WINNER Stl Cardinals” on every PREDICTION….or you will claim after they win the WS that season that they were lucky underdogs….Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:47 pmWere they favorites to win the WS, Goldfan?Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:36 pmhttps://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:22 pmWhy won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:42 pmThey actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 07:44 amSo with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contraryCranny wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 21:07 pmThe Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They willBanner29 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.
It’s weird. But You do you
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.![]()
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You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention
Cranny=Underdogs![]()
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Cranny, what color is the sky in you world?
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
No, but if you take the time to do the research and review multiple sites with predictions, you'll find that they wereGoldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:54 pmCranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:47 pmWere they favorites to win the WS, Goldfan?Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:36 pmhttps://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:22 pmWhy won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:42 pmThey actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 07:44 amSo with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contraryCranny wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 21:07 pmThe Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They willBanner29 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.
It’s weird. But You do you
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.![]()
![]()
![]()
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention
Cranny=Underdogs![]()
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So in your mind in order to be a viable contender to WIN the WS before the season…….All Pundits(who have as much predictive power as CT posters) need to write “WS WINNER Stl Cardinals” on every PREDICTION….or you will claim after they win the WS that season that they were lucky underdogs….![]()
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Cranny, what color is the sky in you world?
pure underdogs to win it all in both 2006 and 2011.
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Which ones?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:03 pmNo, but if you take the time to do the research and review multiple sites with predictions, you'll find that they wereGoldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:54 pmCranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:47 pmWere they favorites to win the WS, Goldfan?Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:36 pmhttps://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:22 pmWhy won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:42 pmThey actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 07:44 amSo with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contraryCranny wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 21:07 pmThe Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They willBanner29 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 17:21 pm
And you would rather lose with an “underdog” while hoping they prevail like some kind of inspirational sports movie like “the little giants” than just simply win with a superior team.
It’s weird. But You do you
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.![]()
![]()
![]()
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention
Cranny=Underdogs![]()
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![]()
So in your mind in order to be a viable contender to WIN the WS before the season…….All Pundits(who have as much predictive power as CT posters) need to write “WS WINNER Stl Cardinals” on every PREDICTION….or you will claim after they win the WS that season that they were lucky underdogs….![]()
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Cranny, what color is the sky in you world?
pure underdogs to win it all in both 2006 and 2011.
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Just Google 2006 MLB preseason power rankings. Do the same for 2011. You’ll find the results on MLB.com, ESPN, Baseball Prospectus, and several more.Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:10 pmWhich ones?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:03 pmNo, but if you take the time to do the research and review multiple sites with predictions, you'll find that they wereGoldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:54 pmCranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:47 pmWere they favorites to win the WS, Goldfan?Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:36 pmhttps://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:22 pmWhy won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:42 pmThey actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 07:44 amSo with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contraryCranny wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 21:07 pmThe Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.![]()
![]()
![]()
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention
Cranny=Underdogs![]()
![]()
![]()
So in your mind in order to be a viable contender to WIN the WS before the season…….All Pundits(who have as much predictive power as CT posters) need to write “WS WINNER Stl Cardinals” on every PREDICTION….or you will claim after they win the WS that season that they were lucky underdogs….![]()
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Cranny, what color is the sky in you world?
pure underdogs to win it all in both 2006 and 2011.
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Still being confrontational, NY? Still prancing around with your superiority complex. You poor little thing.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:33 pmNYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
By the way, I went to college in New York - are you from the city or upstate?
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
I made a point about the (il)logic of your argument and provided an historical example to illustrate the point. Your response is to launch into ad hominem attacks. Then you have the audacity to turn around in the very next sentence and ask me personal questions like we're acquaintances. Bizarre. But pretty much par for the course with you.Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:43 pmStill being confrontational, NY? Still prancing around with your superiority complex. You poor little thing.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:33 pmNYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
By the way, I went to college in New York - are you from the city or upstate?
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Granny is amusing....
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Thank You for the nail and hammer CrannyCranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:20 pmJust Google 2006 MLB preseason power rankings. Do the same for 2011. You’ll find the results on MLB.com, ESPN, Baseball Prospectus, and several more.Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:10 pmWhich ones?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:03 pmNo, but if you take the time to do the research and review multiple sites with predictions, you'll find that they wereGoldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:54 pmCranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:47 pmWere they favorites to win the WS, Goldfan?Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:36 pmhttps://www.baseballprospectus.com/news ... icks-2006/Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 21:22 pmWhy won’t you yourself provide the sources that you swear exist to support your accusation?Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 17:42 pmThey actually were underdogs based on the pre-season odds of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.Goldfan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 07:44 amSo with MV3(Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, Carpenter, LaRussa…) and winning 100 and 105 games the previous 2 years and having the 2nd best odds in Vegas going into the season. The 2006 Cards were UNDERDOGS. Cranny when you get programmed(brainwashed) you’ll go down with the party line despite the glaring obvious facts to the contraryCranny wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 21:07 pmThe Cardinals were underdogs in 2006 and 2011. They will
probably always be the underdog because of the size of markets and cable contracts.![]()
![]()
![]()
You need to check multiple sources for those odds.
Picked to win NL Central
Picked by a couple pundits to make it to WS
A. Pujols unanimous MVP
C. Carpenter in Cy Young contention
Cranny=Underdogs![]()
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So in your mind in order to be a viable contender to WIN the WS before the season…….All Pundits(who have as much predictive power as CT posters) need to write “WS WINNER Stl Cardinals” on every PREDICTION….or you will claim after they win the WS that season that they were lucky underdogs….![]()
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Cranny, what color is the sky in you world?
pure underdogs to win it all in both 2006 and 2011.
Googled 2006 Preseason MLB Power Rankings
“The 2006 MLB preseason power rankings featured the New York Yankees and St. Louis Cardinals at the top, with the Yankees favored for their premium talent and the Cardinals often ranked as a top contender. Other teams like the Chicago White Sox and New York Mets also appeared frequently in the top spots, though specific rankings varied between publications”
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
A little congeniality never hurts sometimes, NY. It's normally inherent in humans.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 23:07 pmI made a point about the (il)logic of your argument and provided an historical example to illustrate the point. Your response is to launch into ad hominem attacks. Then you have the audacity to turn around in the very next sentence and ask me personal questions like we're acquaintances. Bizarre. But pretty much par for the course with you.Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:43 pmStill being confrontational, NY? Still prancing around with your superiority complex. You poor little thing.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:33 pmNYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
By the way, I went to college in New York - are you from the city or upstate?
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
If you want the smaller and mid market teams to be able to compete, you should absolutely be pulling for the dodgers. If you think there's a problem you want more evidence of the problem. in baseball, and life in general, a problem will not be addressed until a problem is acknowledged.
the more the huge market teams win, the sooner the problem will be addressed
the more the huge market teams win, the sooner the problem will be addressed
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Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
“You poor little thing.” . . . “Now time for some congeniality!”Cranny wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:21 amA little congeniality never hurts sometimes, NY. It's normally inherent in humans.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 23:07 pmI made a point about the (il)logic of your argument and provided an historical example to illustrate the point. Your response is to launch into ad hominem attacks. Then you have the audacity to turn around in the very next sentence and ask me personal questions like we're acquaintances. Bizarre. But pretty much par for the course with you.Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:43 pmStill being confrontational, NY? Still prancing around with your superiority complex. You poor little thing.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:33 pmNYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
By the way, I went to college in New York - are you from the city or upstate?
“Here’s a slew of ad hominem attacks.” . . . “Now let’s get to know each other.”
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Thank You for the nail and hammer CrannyCranny wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:21 amA little congeniality never hurts sometimes, NY. It's normally inherent in humans.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 23:07 pmI made a point about the (il)logic of your argument and provided an historical example to illustrate the point. Your response is to launch into ad hominem attacks. Then you have the audacity to turn around in the very next sentence and ask me personal questions like we're acquaintances. Bizarre. But pretty much par for the course with you.Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:43 pmStill being confrontational, NY? Still prancing around with your superiority complex. You poor little thing.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:33 pmNYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
By the way, I went to college in New York - are you from the city or upstate?
Googled 2006 Preseason MLB Power Rankings
“The 2006 MLB preseason power rankings featured the New York Yankees and St. Louis Cardinals at the top, with the Yankees favored for their premium talent and the Cardinals often ranked as a top contender. Other teams like the Chicago White Sox and New York Mets also appeared frequently in the top spots, though specific rankings varied between publications”
Re: Big Bad Dodgers buying another WS
Are you a human or a robot? AI maybe? You don't seem to have normal humanity in your posts?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:30 am“You poor little thing.” . . . “Now time for some congeniality!”Cranny wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025 11:21 amA little congeniality never hurts sometimes, NY. It's normally inherent in humans.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 23:07 pmI made a point about the (il)logic of your argument and provided an historical example to illustrate the point. Your response is to launch into ad hominem attacks. Then you have the audacity to turn around in the very next sentence and ask me personal questions like we're acquaintances. Bizarre. But pretty much par for the course with you.Cranny wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:43 pmStill being confrontational, NY? Still prancing around with your superiority complex. You poor little thing.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 22:33 pmNYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's bizarre "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1, completing one of the most dominant seasons of the last 50 years.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky: they weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
By the way, I went to college in New York - are you from the city or upstate?
“Here’s a slew of ad hominem attacks.” . . . “Now let’s get to know each other.”