Our play calling was brutal all game. We only gave Hardy the ball 3 times on our first three possessions. We had the advantage against with run as Pribula is not a passing QB, but Moore never even committed to the run until the third quarter. Then in Q3 we get a first and goal at 10, and first run was a hardy between the tackles for 8. Moore inexcusably tries the next 3 plays with over once giving Hardy the ball between the tackles and we walk away with zero points. Next drive we get ball to down to the 20, and again Moore abandons the run. When we did throw, we did not attempt a pass over 15 yards for 3 quarter!
I know we can’t fire him now as we have nobody else to call plays, but finding a real OC should be the priority next season.
Kirby Moore is the weak link
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Kirby Moore is the weak link
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TheMajicMan
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Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
This is Drink's boring offense!
Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
Drink doesn't want an OC who can challenge him. There, I said it.
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Moore looks great when calling plays against non-P4 competition but again any P4 competition he looks below average at best, even though to offense looked better with Zollers at the helm.
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Scoring 10 against Vandy? Wow. Really bad with as much yardage as the Tigers had. Moore just doesn't have it.
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He is horrible. Second and goal from the 2 and he tries 3 gadget plays and not once tried to just blast Hardy into the end zone between the tackles. He is simply not SEC material
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Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
It doesn't make any sense.
You preach being physical and leaning on the run game and yet on the exact point on the field you can demoralize an opponent you go completely against character.
I don't care who the OC is both he and the head coach are to blame.
Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
this.
not to mention that Moore has now killed two quarterbacks. I'm still not over the idiotic play call that injured Horn before he ever got a chance to throw a pass.
Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
I couldn't believe it when they put Horn in to run wildcat of all things late in the 1st half of the opener. He's a pocket passer, something the Tigers could really have used this year because Pribula does not like the pocket at all.boulanger wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 22:27 pmthis.
not to mention that Moore has now killed two quarterbacks. I'm still not over the idiotic play call that injured Horn before he ever got a chance to throw a pass.
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….against Central Arkansas in a meaning less game. Why run your QB at all. Moore is weak.boulanger wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 22:27 pmthis.
not to mention that Moore has now killed two quarterbacks. I'm still not over the idiotic play call that injured Horn before he ever got a chance to throw a pass.
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That's the key point. Moore isn't operating in a vacuum.I don't care who the OC is both he and the head coach are to blame.
The Pribula injury could have happened any time. That's the risk you take with a running QB. Horn otoh got ambushed. In a game where the focus should have been on letting him get some game time reps and giving him a clean pocket so he could deal, they decide his first play should be a run. WTF were they thinking?
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How about play #1 to start off the game?
I mean, I'm still not sure what that was but I knew then "run first" is just a slogan.
Both losses this year Missouri played to their weakness.
Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
that was my immediate thought at the time. he was supposed to get the whole 2nd half with the 1st team offense, and instead they send him on a suicide run in the first quarter, for no reason at all. still can't believe how stupid that was.jcgmoi wrote: ↑26 Oct 2025 08:32 amThat's the key point. Moore isn't operating in a vacuum.I don't care who the OC is both he and the head coach are to blame.
The Pribula injury could have happened any time. That's the risk you take with a running QB. Horn otoh got ambushed. In a game where the focus should have been on letting him get some game time reps and giving him a clean pocket so he could deal, they decide his first play should be a run. WTF were they thinking?
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Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
Kirby Moore's offensive philosophy and scheme
Key aspects of his coaching style
Player-centric and adaptable: Moore designs his offense to fit the unique talents of his players, rather than forcing them into a rigid system. He adjusts game plans to attack opponents' weaknesses and protect against their strengths, ensuring flexibility and adaptability.
Aggressive and innovative: His offenses are known for being aggressive and creative, incorporating a blend of different concepts to keep defenses off balance. This includes using spread formations, pre-snap motion, and a willingness to take shots downfield.
Meticulous preparation: Moore is known for his thorough game planning and film study to ensure his team is well-prepared for each opponent.
Emphasis on collaboration: Drawing from his experience at Boise State, he fosters a collaborative environment where everyone on the team is involved in the game plan.
Balanced attack: His scheme includes a balanced run game, using concepts like outside zone and other zone blocking schemes to create different lanes for the running back.
Focus on making things look the same: A key principle of his approach is making play calls look similar to the defense, whether it's a run play or a pass, to create confusion and hesitation.
Drink's offensive philosophy and scheme
Running game
The foundation of Drinkwitz's offense is a strong and aggressive running attack, using primarily zone blocking schemes.
Inside Zone and Outside Zone: Mizzou frequently uses both inside and outside zone runs to attack defenses. The play-calling adapts based on how the opponent is defending the run, as seen in the 2024 season when the Tigers had to switch from inside to outside zone to get their ground game going.
QB run elements: The scheme also features plays that add the quarterback to the running attack. The "Quarterback Follow" is a notable play, where the QB rides the running back and follows them into the hole, giving the offense another blocker in the box.
Constraint plays: To protect the integrity of the base running game, Drinkwitz incorporates motions and screens to force defenders to respect the perimeter. If a defense overcommits to stopping the run, these plays offer an immediate counter.
Passing game
Drinkwitz's passing attack is designed to capitalize on defenders' reactions to his running game and pre-snap motion.
Play-action: Mizzou frequently uses play-action, often out of maximum protection schemes, to take deep shots downfield. This concept is especially effective when defenses are keying in on the downhill run game.
Screens and motions: Quick screens, such as bubble screens and shoot screens, are used to put the ball in space and punish defenses that crowd the line of scrimmage. Motions like the "Orbit" (a receiver motions into the backfield) are used to create misdirection and put stress on defenders' assignments.
RPOs (Run-Pass Options): A central part of his scheme, RPOs are called run plays that give the quarterback the option to throw based on a single read key, like a linebacker. Drinkwitz often uses slant routes in combination with his zone run concepts to exploit defender movement.
Route concepts: The passing game features concepts like "Y Cross" and "Double Posts" to attack different parts of the field. Y Cross sends a receiver over the middle on a deep route to find a soft spot in the coverage, while Double Posts is designed to create a deep, two-level read for the quarterback.
Key aspects of his coaching style
Player-centric and adaptable: Moore designs his offense to fit the unique talents of his players, rather than forcing them into a rigid system. He adjusts game plans to attack opponents' weaknesses and protect against their strengths, ensuring flexibility and adaptability.
Aggressive and innovative: His offenses are known for being aggressive and creative, incorporating a blend of different concepts to keep defenses off balance. This includes using spread formations, pre-snap motion, and a willingness to take shots downfield.
Meticulous preparation: Moore is known for his thorough game planning and film study to ensure his team is well-prepared for each opponent.
Emphasis on collaboration: Drawing from his experience at Boise State, he fosters a collaborative environment where everyone on the team is involved in the game plan.
Balanced attack: His scheme includes a balanced run game, using concepts like outside zone and other zone blocking schemes to create different lanes for the running back.
Focus on making things look the same: A key principle of his approach is making play calls look similar to the defense, whether it's a run play or a pass, to create confusion and hesitation.
Drink's offensive philosophy and scheme
Running game
The foundation of Drinkwitz's offense is a strong and aggressive running attack, using primarily zone blocking schemes.
Inside Zone and Outside Zone: Mizzou frequently uses both inside and outside zone runs to attack defenses. The play-calling adapts based on how the opponent is defending the run, as seen in the 2024 season when the Tigers had to switch from inside to outside zone to get their ground game going.
QB run elements: The scheme also features plays that add the quarterback to the running attack. The "Quarterback Follow" is a notable play, where the QB rides the running back and follows them into the hole, giving the offense another blocker in the box.
Constraint plays: To protect the integrity of the base running game, Drinkwitz incorporates motions and screens to force defenders to respect the perimeter. If a defense overcommits to stopping the run, these plays offer an immediate counter.
Passing game
Drinkwitz's passing attack is designed to capitalize on defenders' reactions to his running game and pre-snap motion.
Play-action: Mizzou frequently uses play-action, often out of maximum protection schemes, to take deep shots downfield. This concept is especially effective when defenses are keying in on the downhill run game.
Screens and motions: Quick screens, such as bubble screens and shoot screens, are used to put the ball in space and punish defenses that crowd the line of scrimmage. Motions like the "Orbit" (a receiver motions into the backfield) are used to create misdirection and put stress on defenders' assignments.
RPOs (Run-Pass Options): A central part of his scheme, RPOs are called run plays that give the quarterback the option to throw based on a single read key, like a linebacker. Drinkwitz often uses slant routes in combination with his zone run concepts to exploit defender movement.
Route concepts: The passing game features concepts like "Y Cross" and "Double Posts" to attack different parts of the field. Y Cross sends a receiver over the middle on a deep route to find a soft spot in the coverage, while Double Posts is designed to create a deep, two-level read for the quarterback.
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Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
Drink was under .500 as the OC at Mizzou
The weak link is the challenging schedule that is a first for Drink
Having to play teams with a winning record is hard (kansas only win vs a winning record team)
The weak link is the challenging schedule that is a first for Drink
Having to play teams with a winning record is hard (kansas only win vs a winning record team)
Re: Kirby Moore is the weak link
have been saying this for two seasons glad you guys finally see the light. He just IS NOT a Power 4 level coordinator or QB coach. His qb's remain the same as you just don't see them improving their game.
His scheme going into games is just not good, as I've said you wonder how you can spend hours watching tape and NOT have a better understanding of what will work against a teams' D. FB is just not that complicated. IF you anticipate they will stack the box as they have last couple games you go past them or to the side. Quick slants, outs and you HAVE TO THROW GO ROUTES occasionally which keeps safeties deeper and not able to be as involved in run game d. Yet the woefully inadequate Moore refuses to do what works effectively. Or you do move the chains, hardy was having a good game rushing but you needed to do more wheel routes for your rb's or delayed plays to your very good TE's which worked best against vandy d week before.
Couple of the offensive coaches have been OC's before and playcallers. ANYONE has to be better than Kirby especially in RZ. JMHO but he should be fired to get his incompetence out of program and someone else to coach up the QB's. they have a lot of assistants floating around program and surely they can coach up the kid.
One good thing is with Zollers, in fourth quarter he did NOT have Beau to try QB runs but actually finally threw into the EZ. Kid has plenty of zip on ball and should be more effective there. Eli was just as lousy a playcaller as KM is and lost several games in first 3 years because of his too sideways throws and scheme. has chemistry with Jude James already and Coleman, now needs
His scheme going into games is just not good, as I've said you wonder how you can spend hours watching tape and NOT have a better understanding of what will work against a teams' D. FB is just not that complicated. IF you anticipate they will stack the box as they have last couple games you go past them or to the side. Quick slants, outs and you HAVE TO THROW GO ROUTES occasionally which keeps safeties deeper and not able to be as involved in run game d. Yet the woefully inadequate Moore refuses to do what works effectively. Or you do move the chains, hardy was having a good game rushing but you needed to do more wheel routes for your rb's or delayed plays to your very good TE's which worked best against vandy d week before.
Couple of the offensive coaches have been OC's before and playcallers. ANYONE has to be better than Kirby especially in RZ. JMHO but he should be fired to get his incompetence out of program and someone else to coach up the QB's. they have a lot of assistants floating around program and surely they can coach up the kid.
One good thing is with Zollers, in fourth quarter he did NOT have Beau to try QB runs but actually finally threw into the EZ. Kid has plenty of zip on ball and should be more effective there. Eli was just as lousy a playcaller as KM is and lost several games in first 3 years because of his too sideways throws and scheme. has chemistry with Jude James already and Coleman, now needs