Colten ellis

[BalotelliMassive]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Against a team riding a five game win streak...

[STL fan in MN]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

[BalotelliMassive]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

I could see them dangling him for a pick if he's the odd man out.

[son_of_foolsgold]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

[STL fan in MN]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

If the Blues get Ellis back they’d be the only team able to send him to the minors without him again going throw waivers. They’d have to be the only team to put in a claim for him though.

They’re absolutely not trading Binnington. It’s a waste of time even considering it IMO.

[STL fan in MN]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

I could see them dangling him for a pick if he's the odd man out.

Maybe. Perhaps his value has now increased enough to get a late round pick. A lot of teams would probably see it as the same scenario as when the Blues had him - the team with Ellis has virtually no leverage as they pretty much have to get rid of one of their 3 goalies. A team could just pluck Ellis off waivers for free (small monetary price but no actual assets). But agree that I could see a team willing to trade a late pick for Ellis as that would guarantee them the player and them not be left to the chances of the waiver wire.

[blues2112]

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

Kidding, correct?

[somni]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

If the Blues get Ellis back they’d be the only team able to send him to the minors without him again going throw waivers. They’d have to be the only team to put in a claim for him though.

They’re absolutely not trading Binnington. It’s a waste of time even considering it IMO.

I kind of feel for Ellis. He needs to play, so hopefully the situation gets cleared up and he can start more games than one every 2-3 weeks, for his sake.

[callitwhatyouwant]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

If the Blues get Ellis back they’d be the only team able to send him to the minors without him again going throw waivers. They’d have to be the only team to put in a claim for him though.

They’re absolutely not trading Binnington. It’s a waste of time even considering it IMO.

I love the comments when the trolls say, "trade binner, trade Parayko, trade Kyrou etc etc etc." They want to trade those guys for no one. Then complain after the deal is done that the Blues are too good and need a 1D or a goal scorer or whatever. But they want to trade guys who are literally on their countries national team.

At the moment, there is 0 reason to trade Binner. If the Blues were to take some drastic shift in course and become a bottom feeder, than the idea of trading players who are valuable to 25 other teams becomes an option. There isn't a better defensive contract than Parayko's at the moment. Binner is better now than he has ever been as far as expected output in a regular season game. Kyrou is supposed to be a goal scorer, why would a team who needs goal scoring trade a goal scorer?

The trolls literally make no sense. But I guess that is why they are trolls. Lacking brain acumen.

[STL fan in MN]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

If the Blues get Ellis back they’d be the only team able to send him to the minors without him again going throw waivers. They’d have to be the only team to put in a claim for him though.

They’re absolutely not trading Binnington. It’s a waste of time even considering it IMO.

I kind of feel for Ellis. He needs to play, so hopefully the situation gets cleared up and he can start more games than one every 2-3 weeks, for his sake.

My guess is his situation will become more stable soon enough. Either he stays in Buffalo, another team claims him or he ends up back in Springfield…maybe eventually the Blues if one of Binnington/Hofer get injured.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

If you look at the tandems around the league and the teams where you could see Ellis potentially slot in as the second (if Buffalo decides to waive him)--
Anaheim -- Mrazek ; Nashville - Annunen; Chicago - Soderblom ; Calgary - Prosetsov ; Philadelphia - Ersson. Very likely that all these backups would pass through waivers. Not a high risk move to pick up Ellis on waivers and see how it goes. The more and more this plays out -- I just do not see him coming back to the Blues organization.

[BalotelliMassive]

If you look at the tandems around the league and the teams where you could see Ellis potentially slot in as the second (if Buffalo decides to waive him)--
Anaheim -- Mrazek ; Nashville - Annunen; Chicago - Soderblom ; Calgary - Prosetsov ; Philadelphia - Ersson. Very likely that all these backups would pass through waivers. Not a high risk move to pick up Ellis on waivers and see how it goes. The more and more this plays out -- I just do not see him coming back to the Blues organization.

Chicago has too many goalies already. Soderblom is already NHL tested.

Anaheim should be all over it.

[Wattage]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

upl is a default starter not a starter. he has a carrgaa over 3 and sv% under .900 and .887 last year. its been .892 or lower in 2 of his 3 full seaspns. his goals saved above average was -19.9 last year and -14.1 3 years ago. upl is by no means as secure in his spot as you are acting. hes among worst goalies in the league.

[son_of_foolsgold]

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

Kidding, correct?

Nope...there are many reasons to do so, although we will not get as much for him as we would have 2 years ago.

[STL fan in MN]

he just posted a.931 with 27 saves and a win for buff. he gone

Maybe. But probably not if I’m being honest. Ellis is the toast of the town today but there’s still really no path for him in Buffalo. UPL is their starter and Lyon has more than held his own with a .924 SV% in his 6 starts. UPL would have to do fantastically bad in his rehab starts for them to consider making a move to keep Ellis IMO.

The bigger risk may be some other team wanting Ellis. If Buffalo is eventually forced to put Ellis back on waivers, I could see another team putting in a claim on him, thinking he’d be a better option than their current #2. Especially if Ellis gets another start or two and continues to do well.

upl is a default starter not a starter. he has a carrgaa over 3 and sv% under .900 and .887 last year. its been .892 or lower in 2 of his 3 full seaspns. his goals saved above average was -19.9 last year and -14.1 3 years ago. upl is by no means as secure in his spot as you are acting. hes among worst goalies in the league.

He’d still have to be drastically bad for them to trade him and keep Ellis instead.

[blues2112]

My understanding is if Buffalo waives Ellis the Blues have priority over any other team wanting to claim him...but that would just be putting us in the same spot as before. What we really ought to do is get Ellis back and trade Binnington.

Kidding, correct?

Nope...there are many reasons to do so, although we will not get as much for him as we would have 2 years ago.

One comment and two questions.
Comment: Bennington was winning goalie at Four Nations and probably/maybe starting for Team Canada.

How could his value be higher?
What are the "many reasons to do so"?