what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
Not a fallacy at all. Do some homework. Look up what the pundits felt at the beginning of the seasons - the Cardinals chances of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
Cranny thinks ANY squad with any Manager can sneak their way in and Miraculously WIN the WS…..he conveniently leaves out
HOF
Albert Pujols
Scott Rolen
Yadi Molina
Near HOF
Edmonds
Holliday
Berkman
Several Allstars
Cy Young
Chris Carp
And one of the winningest Managers in the history of the game with 3 WS and the greatest PItching coach around
But other than that……those teams were SO lucky to win the WS
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
Not a fallacy at all. Do some homework. Look up what the pundits felt at the beginning of the seasons - the Cardinals chances of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
Cranny thinks ANY squad with any Manager can sneak their way in and Miraculously WIN the WS…..he conveniently leaves out
HOF
Albert Pujols
Scott Rolen
Yadi Molina
Near HOF
Edmonds
Holliday
Berkman
Several Allstars
Cy Young
Chris Carp
And one of the winningest Managers in the history of the game with 3 WS and the greatest PItching coach around
But other than that……those teams were SO lucky to win the WS
Sure they had some good players. But they weren’t by any means favored to win the World Series. Look it up,
Goldfan. Or are you afraid it may not align with your
“Point”.
To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's particular proposed "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky. They weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
What does it matter who gets credit for the improvement? Coaching, players, don't give a dam.n. How about both. AA was really good last year. Fangraphs thinks our farm is stellar....best in baseball. When DeWitt begins to believe that the organization wil be competitive, he will open the checkbook. It may take a year or two to really look like a postseason team..but it's gonna happen again. It's what we do.
I see that Baghdad Bob is still using the 2006 & 2011 examples of how to win a World Series..it makes sense if you support Mozo the Clowns legacy and are a front office (donkey) kisser.
NYCardsFan wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025 21:17 pm
To pick just one of the almost endless examples one can come up with to show how unenlightening Cranny's particular proposed "luck" template is:
Pre-season prediction: "A survey of 165 sportswriters conducted by The Sporting News before the 1984 season showed a clear majority—96 writers—predicted the Orioles would repeat as AL East champions."
What actually happened: The Detroit Tigers led the AL East wire-to-wire, finished 104-58, won their division by 15 games, won the ALCS 3-0, and won the World Series 4-1.
Cranny: "The Tigers were lucky. They weren't even favored to win their own division--let alone the World Series--before the start of the season. Look it up!"
Any team who wins the WS has experienced a degree of luck - players getting healthy at the right time, a degree of momentum carrying them, balls that drop in, etc.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
Not a fallacy at all. Do some homework. Look up what the pundits felt at the beginning of the seasons - the Cardinals chances of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
Cranny thinks ANY squad with any Manager can sneak their way in and Miraculously WIN the WS…..he conveniently leaves out
HOF
Albert Pujols
Scott Rolen
Yadi Molina
Near HOF
Edmonds
Holliday
Berkman
Several Allstars
Cy Young
Chris Carp
And one of the winningest Managers in the history of the game with 3 WS and the greatest PItching coach around
But other than that……those teams were SO lucky to win the WS
Sure they had some good players. But they weren’t by any means favored to win the World Series. Look it up,
Goldfan. Or are you afraid it may not align with your
“Point”.
2006 Cardinals had the 2nd best odds and 5th best odds in 2011 to win the world series to start the season.
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
Not a fallacy at all. Do some homework. Look up what the pundits felt at the beginning of the seasons - the Cardinals chances of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
Cranny thinks ANY squad with any Manager can sneak their way in and Miraculously WIN the WS…..he conveniently leaves out
HOF
Albert Pujols
Scott Rolen
Yadi Molina
Near HOF
Edmonds
Holliday
Berkman
Several Allstars
Cy Young
Chris Carp
And one of the winningest Managers in the history of the game with 3 WS and the greatest PItching coach around
But other than that……those teams were SO lucky to win the WS
Sure they had some good players. But they weren’t by any means favored to win the World Series. Look it up,
Goldfan. Or are you afraid it may not align with your
“Point”.
2006 Cardinals had the 2nd best odds and 5th best odds in 2011 to win the world series to start the season.
I’ve been in this debate with Cranny before……I’m not sure what edition of the Sporting News he references
FACTS
2004 105W
2005 100W
Now what pundit in his right mind wouldn’t have the 2006 Cardinals as one of the favorites to win???
Cranny is delusional or at worst pushing this narrative that TALENT isn’t required and its all luck so why should BDW spend any money…..shameful
Apparently some people believe luck is the key to winning a World Series... so Mozo the Clown isn't responsible for this team's poor play?... it's sad and pathetic that threads are highjacked by people who support the front office more than the team...
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
