ramfandan wrote: ↑05 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.
Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )
Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.
In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.
I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.
Doubt if seeing games next year will give you much insight to what Cerfolio can do for the Cardinals rebuild long term. If he does for the Cardinals what he did with the Guardians, the Cardinals may be on the right track to be a much better team long term.
FanGraphs has given the Cards high mark for improving their farm system . See their comments below :
Top 5 farm system valuation: As of October 2025, FanGraphs rated the Cardinals' farm system as the most valuable in baseball, crediting new leadership for building one of the deepest systems in the league.
High draft picks: The team secured its highest draft pick since 1998, with the fifth overall selection in the 2025 draft. This, along with other high picks, has added dynamic talent to the organization.
Deadline trades: The Cardinals acquired valuable prospects from trade-deadline deals, which restocked their minor leagues with high-potential players.
New player development focus: The organization has ramped up its focus on player development, resulting in a deeper, more promising system.
Organizational balance: The system has been noted for its balance between near-MLB-ready prospects and high-potential, rookie-level players.
Is FanGraphs pretty reliable when it comes to minor league analysis? Also, a majority of those top prospects must be in the lower minors because only a few that we have been talking about are close to the majors.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
Cranny wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025 19:19 pm
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
I guess I’m landing in-between your two POVs. While anything can happen if you get in, the bar for getting in has indeed been lowered. But…3 years of 90-loss baseball is a LOT of losing and still doesn’t guarantee a championship because “anything” - like getting bounced by an inferior but hot team - can and will still happen.
A simpler strategy would be to not mortgage the future for band-aids, but otherwise don’t miss other opportunities to improve as much as possible, and still TRY to win as much as possible. It’s fair to both sides and respectful to the game and the fans.
The Cards have missed the playoffs in 6 of the last 10 years and one of their playoff years was a 30-28 record in a short season when 8 of 15 NL teams made the playoffs.
They clearly have not been executing a plan to just barely make the playoffs. If they have they have mostly failed getting over this supposed "low bar".
cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025 21:26 pm
The Cards have missed the playoffs in 6 of the last 10 years and one of their playoff years was a 30-28 record in a short season when 8 of 15 NL teams made the playoffs.
They clearly have not been executing a plan to just barely make the playoffs. If they have they have mostly failed getting over this supposed "low bar".
Mo not executing their awful plan is why even the dumbest of fans finally turned against him the last several years. Next.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Baby steps Juan, baby steps.
You don't go from "re-build" mode straight to the World Series.
The first target is to become a playoff team again.
And the difference between what the former POBO did and what Bloom is going to do is night & day.
Bloom is going to be building his playoff teams via the draft, minor league system, trades to stock that system AND add quality (under-the-radar) moves to the ML roster via smart trades and free agency that sets the team up for success in the playoffs.
rockondlouie wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025 09:06 am
Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.
This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.
I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.
This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
Not very bright if you equate Bloom w/Mo.
“I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.”
What do you see?
A much smarter, motivated POBO who's made some really smart trades (re: TGKS, N. Piveta, W. Abreu) and a minor league system that's been repaired.
Trust me juan, he's no Mo....TG!
So far I don’t equate the two. However, I do hope to see a POBO who isn’t afraid to do what’s necessary — including losing 90 games for ~3 years if that’s what is required to build a championship roster.
Mo didn’t have the balls to tank.
I don't think Bloom lacks the boldness needed to repair this roster.
Just look what he's already done w/the minor league system that fangraphs just rated #1 in MLB!
And (IMO) this isn't going to be a three year rebuild, I think we're way ahead of schedule.
2027 is the year we need BDWJr to open the wallet and let Bloom have a fair payroll ($180+M).
Ahead of schedule? Given their high draft picks they’re right were they should be imo.
Lmk when this team has a minimum of 3 elite prospects. I count maybe 1 and he will be on the MLB roster next season.
It’s not all doom and gloom so dont get me wrong but it will take a lot more than 3-4 war peak players to win a WS. Pujols and Molinas don’t get drafted and developed very often but you know that.
Way ahead of schedule (IMO)
I think they can be a playoff team by 2027, winning another WS is a toss up for every team in MLB (although the Dodgers spending $400+ M that includes the LT helps for sure)
Playoffs are a low bar as that is exactly what Mo had been aiming for prior 10 years.
Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Look at 2006 and 2011.
That’s a fallacy.
Also, MLB has changed playoff format since 2011 making the silly hope and prayer strategy even more out of reach.
Not a fallacy at all. Do some homework. Look up what the pundits felt at the beginning of the seasons - the Cardinals chances of winning the World Series in both 2006 and 2011.
what are you rooting for more of the same we got with Mo?
